Garage currently fitting powerflex wishbones - question

[daddycool]

how far should the sleeves be pushed in before welding? all the way so the bush sits flush against the wishbone? a la

or similar to my old ones where the sleeve only sticks out a cm and a little out the back?

just concerned that if i do them flush they stick out more and won't fit back on the subframe.

 

[Stava]

I think mine were flush and fitted fine. I can't see your picture as I'm at work.

You can push them in flush and then offer them up to the car to see if they look ok. If they don't, then push them back out a little.

Remember to have them tack welded too.

 

[daddycool]

i can't offer them up unfortunately, i'm getting them fitted to a spare pair of wishbones, purely so they can be pressed and welded ready for me to fit. if you can pm me your mobile i'll send you the pic?

 

[Fred@BTM]

you need to check it on the car, you can't just press them in and weld them

 

[-KarL-]

those are mine

the garage i got to weld them had a 1*2 subframe, so i assume they have done them right.

 

[daddycool]

garage said the inside of the wishbone isn't perfectly flush/flat where the wider part of the bush would sit. i'm going to take the bushes down there tomorrow and decide best course of action, maybe size them up as fred says.

cool wishbones by the way, they powdercoated?

 

[-KarL-]

Yeah powdercoated. I will be getting them fitted soon, hopefully th garage has done them right!

 

[daddycool]

got mine back. are the welds big enough? three of these on each bush

 

[daddycool]

Bump. Would like to know before I fit them

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[Fred@BTM]

i'd want to see maybe a couple more than 3

 

[sideways danny]

I normally put 3 20mm welds, tacks like that aren't enough

 

[daddycool]

ok, back to the garage for a few more welds. cheers

 

[Cupman29]

Need to get mine fitted too.

Once you get a size can you post it on your thread or are all subframes different?

 

[st3ve]

Why do these need to be welded?

I thought they were a press out and press in job?

 

[Fred@BTM]

^nope, if they're not tacked in they move and end up cutting into the subframe

 

[st3ve]

^nope, if they're not tacked in they move and end up cutting into the subframe

I see, glad I didn't dive into buying these then, what about the arb bushes, do they need anything welded?

 

[Fred@BTM]

nope they go on fine

 

[st3ve]

nope they go on fine

Does the arb need to come out completely?

 

[hughski]

How much would a garage typically charge to fit new wishbone bushes?

Hughski.

 

[Fred@BTM]

no it stays in situ, t**t of a job unless it on a ramp, i wouldn't want to try it on the deck!

 

[st3ve]

no it stays in situ, t**t of a job unless it on a ramp, i wouldn't want to try it on the deck!

Good to know, thanks for that, think I'll cross the wishbone bushes off the list though.

 

[sideways danny]

no it stays in situ, tw*t of a job unless it on a ramp, i wouldn't want to try it on the deck!

tw*t of a job even on the ramp. I've done one on the floor, I was ready to kill afterwards

 

[hughski]

How much would a garage typically charge to fit new wishbone bushes?

Hughski.

Anyone??

 

[Toastfrenzy]

Just taken me a few hours to do my arb bushes, then noticed they were up side down.....I'm no mechanic but thought I could remove and replace without too much trouble obviously not LOL, garage quoted me up to an hour, hour 30 tops for labour. Quoted me 30 mins to press out and re press wishbones inc weld. Add hour if he had to take the wish bones off.
Any way I did like this....bit heath robinson but needs must....

 

[hughski]

Just taken me a few hours to do my arb bushes, then noticed they were up side down.....I'm no mechanic but thought I could remove and replace without too much trouble obviously not LOL, garage quoted me up to an hour, hour 30 tops for labour. Quoted me 30 mins to press out and re press wishbones inc weld. Add hour if he had to take the wish bones off.
Any way I did like this....bit heath robinson but needs must....

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Nice setup bro! was that fairly sturdy or was the whole thing in danger of toppling over in the wind?!

cheers for the advice on time it ghould take!

should i do Lower Wishbone AND ARB bushes?

 

[Toastfrenzy]

Solid...trust me I'm a Doctor.....

Whilst you're there, said the actress to the bishop...........might as well do both...

 

[daddycool]

 

[franx]

A mate of mine has mounted my wishbone bushes, he said the sleeves were almost impossible to weld because of how thin the sleeves were. Do Powerflex always send the same quality sleeves i wonder ?

now since a couple of days there's a nasty cracking noise from the wishbone area.. I just checked one side and it seems fine/in place, but the sleeve-welds looked like s**t indeed and one of the sleeves seemed "tilted" a bit

 

[daddycool]

the sleeves will all be the same. when i had mine done i had 6 tiny welds done on each sleeve, some people get 3 substantial welds.

 

[sideways danny]

A mate of mine has mounted my wishbone bushes, he said the sleeves were almost impossible to weld because of how thin the sleeves were. Do Powerflex always send the same quality sleeves i wonder ?

now since a couple of days there's a nasty cracking noise from the wishbone area.. I just checked one side and it seems fine/in place, but the sleeve-welds looked like s**t indeed and one of the sleeves seemed "tilted" a bit

your friend can't weld for s**t. if he's blowing through these he shouldn't touch a welder

 

[xoldog400]

now since a couple of days there's a nasty cracking noise from the wishbone area.. I just checked one side and it seems fine/in place, but the sleeve-welds looked like s**t indeed and one of the sleeves seemed "tilted" a bit[/QUOTE]

i have them for about 10.000 km (used on track-road) and i also sometimes hear this ''cracking'' noise only when easily starting in first gear, but it seems all fine.
i welded them completely (upper-lower side of the sleeve) in the wishbone.

 

[franx]

Had the car up on the bridge and it touches the subframe but all is well in place so not too worried.

 

[Jaff.]

does anyone know the OD of the powerflex bushes for the clio? or can someone measure one for me?

 

[Fred@BTM]

the rubber?

 

[Jaff.]

no the sleave... i think

basically i need to know if the clio bushes fit into megane mk1 wishbones. theyre the same design but ive read there are a few diffrent sizes.
theres no specific mk1 powerflex bushes to buy