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getting to the 200bhp mark,gdi or bb tuning



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yellow182jon

  NEED V6!
as in the title im deciding to spend bit more money making my car little bit faster so have been looking to either put it in the workshop at either gdi or bb tuning for cams,remap,inlet manifold

i was wondering whether many people have had this work done at these places and if there satisfied with it

opinions please

i already have yozzasport exhaust and soon ITG maxogen induction kit
 
ja.jack

ja.jack

  cup 182 mit stripes
LOL I do'nt think BB tuning are still in the game. A lad on here a while back was threatened with violence when he had the temerity to complain when they ballsed up his cam conversion.

As for GDI , my only dealings with them was a mail order GroupN. I'd like to think that they could supply a trouble free, high torque cam conversion, standard ecu, all for 2k.

I keep thinking about the experiences of Mark and Stoddie, and my own tuning disasters over many years. If only Andy would tell us the dodgy days are gone by and the conversions are now kosher. WE NEED TO BELIEVE!!!
 
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dan.clio

BB Tuning are a joke to be honest.

My mates 172 was in there for their turbo conversion. They said it would take about 4 weeks but it ended up being nearly 3 months i think.

Takes the piss when you're spending 7.5k
 
ja.jack

ja.jack

  cup 182 mit stripes
Is S77CCP saying his expensive tuning was a mistake and not worth the performance gains? I'm not stirring it, just want to get talked out of more tuning. You know how addictive it is , and how weak and silly we are to believe the blandishments of the tuners.
 
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Liquidcool

drhowser said:
bb don't have a workshop anymore, i think they will suply parts, but won't fit them.
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The old man a BB tuning used to have his staff call him the Chief! PMSL! More like Cowboy! lol.. he would s*lag off the customers in his 'office' and then used to purposely over charge on labour.. and that was told by someone who used to work for him! but butter wouldnt melt! shame really....not!
 
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TheJesus

ja.jack said:
LOL I do'nt think BB tuning are still in the game. A lad on here a while back was threatened with violence when he had the temerity to complain when they ballsed up his cam conversion.

As for GDI , my only dealings with them was a mail order GroupN. I'd like to think that they could supply a trouble free, high torque cam conversion, standard ecu, all for 2k.

I keep thinking about the experiences of Mark and Stoddie, and my own tuning disasters over many years. If only Andy would tell us the dodgy days are gone by and the conversions are now kosher. WE NEED TO BELIEVE!!!
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proof is in the pudding though, GDI makes the fastest Clio's in this club, this is undeniable fact. Sadly only a handful of people actually know the full story of the aforementioned and unfortunately their passionate accounts of events are not entirely accurate. Always helps hearing the FULL story and not one sides biased rhetoric. Mine and MarkM's respective threads in Renault specialist section being a perfect example of fact and fiction.

imo GDI are the only company doing these kind of jobs, I know others claim to but I've heard or seen no evidence to say otherwise, just a load of waffle and self "bigging up". Those that talk and those that "do". I know where my money goes.
 
Dubai182

Dubai182

  182, SRT8, RS4, GT-R
To be fair Jon, K-Tec have produced some good pieces of kit. Quite a few people with turbo kits running well.
 
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TheJesus

Oh yeah, not disputing it, K-Tec do some great stuff, but it's all boosted. For 200bhp N/A GDI are at the forefront, they have easily the most experience doing these and getting and proving the results.

Would be nice to have a turbo conversion, I'd be worried about running that power through a Renault box. There's simply no way one would last driven regularly and with the intention the car was built for... going fast.
 
ja.jack

ja.jack

  cup 182 mit stripes
If the boost was kept to a sensible level should be ok.
I had no trouble with my 1.9 GTI turbo. Ca'nt see Peugeot bits being any tougher than Reno.
 
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TheJesus

cant comment on Pug boxes, but Renault ones are notoriously shite... I know from bitter first hand experience. Trust me, there's absolutely no way a Renault box will survive a turbo'd Clio if used regularly. I'd give it 20k miles from new tops.
 
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TheJesus

ja.jack said:
I'm sure David would say the 'box' will be ok. lol
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it probably would under normal day to day use... but I dont think people spend money on the kit for that lol. No idea what David's stance on it is, but my gearbox has seen better days with considerably less power and torque going through it... I believe Yoz/Fred have gone through a fair few on the Cup running much less power and torque also.

Rule of thumb is that all Renault gearboxes are gash, I was on my 4th one on the Williams
 
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Dan R

  Mk2 172
yellow182jon said:
as in the title im deciding to spend bit more money making my car little bit faster so have been looking to either put it in the workshop at either gdi or bb tuning for cams,remap,inlet manifold

i was wondering whether many people have had this work done at these places and if there satisfied with it

opinions please

i already have yozzasport exhaust and soon ITG maxogen induction kit
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Forget the engine for now. Spend money on brakes and suspension first. being able to stop and go round corners even better than they already do is worth 50hp all day long!!! like another lad said on here. take it on the track and see how you find the car before spending money.
 
Batman

Batman

  80MPG BEEZA
Dubai182 said:
Maybe the way to go would be a sequential box?
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yea if you have 6k for one already looked into that one as i want one more then having tons of power its just to £££ and you have to rebuild them every few thousand miles
 
S77CCP

S77CCP

ja.jack said:
Is S77CCP saying his expensive tuning was a mistake and not worth the performance gains? I'm not stirring it, just want to get talked out of more tuning. You know how addictive it is , and how weak and silly we are to believe the blandishments of the tuners.
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No I’m not saying it was a mistake, I’m perfectly happy with my car. I am however acutely aware that for the money I’ve spent on a French hatchback I could also have purchased a tidy Scooby/EVO/S3, M3, or Trophy.
If I were to it all again I’d personally ditch the engine work and just do the suspension and invest in some decent driver training.

People on here and on other sites are fair too preoccupied with the quest of getting 200 brake from a Clio. The people who start threads like this should take a look at MarkCup’s videos and understand that a Clio is fast enough as it is and its down to the driver to make the most of what they’ve got.
 
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TheJesus

it's horses for courses really. I'm lazy, I just like to have the power available when I want it as I'd rather not have to push myself to the limit to keep an Evo or Scooby in sights whilst going round the Cat & Fiddle... I find it easier just having more power. There's an argument for both really. I guess it really depends if you want to go quicker, or have more power.
 
The Hoff

The Hoff

  SLK 350
dan.clio said:
The Hoff said:
Indeed.

Don't waste your money trying to make the F4R more powerful, buy a turbo and save your cash.
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Thats just boring though. Its nice to have a street sleeper that no-one expects.

You pull up in an evo and everyone knows what its capapble of.
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Boring?

Why spend 2K on making an already stretched car 0.2 seconds faster to 60 when you could spend £500-1000 on a VAG/Jap turbo and bag yourself 30-50hp.

As for being sleeper, oh please...The only sleeper Clio was Matt's 400bhp 1.2 with steelies!

Pointless venture, get some coils, get some performance pads and by all means get your manifold matched/remap/decat and leave it at that. Chasing after 10bhp for that sort of money is silly.
 
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Johnc172

  Cup Turbo, Flamer
I've basically got the AWT/GDI 200hp conversion, but didn't go to either of them (simply as it was distance to travel for me) I got the components seperate and then took my car to Mark Fish who fitted it all for me, prices are reasonable for the quality of work!

Gave mine to him on saturday a few weeks back, he fitted cams, 48k service, cambelt, aux belt and sorted my roll cage, was ready the following saturday, great service and top bloke!!

I've now got 204hp, with 182 exhaust manifold
 
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TheJesus

The Hoff said:
dan.clio said:
Thats just boring though. Its nice to have a street sleeper that no-one expects.

You pull up in an evo and everyone knows what its capapble of.
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Boring?

Why spend 2K on making an already stretched car 0.2 seconds faster to 60 when you could spend £500-1000 on a VAG/Jap turbo and bag yourself 30-50hp.

As for being sleeper, oh please...The only sleeper Clio was Matt's 400bhp 1.2 with steelies!

Pointless venture, get some coils, get some performance pads and by all means get your manifold matched/remap/decat and leave it at that. Chasing after 10bhp for that sort of money is silly.
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2k would get you more than just a 0.2 to 60 difference, 0-100 you'd be looking at being a couple of seconds faster as well as more in gear acceleration.

... Matt's isn't the only sleeper either, there's loads on this site that do more than you'd ever dream the car capable, I'd like to see how many other standard looking 1*2's can out pace Evo's and M3's tbh. For what I paid for mine, there's absolutely not much out there that's as quick and can be used as a day to day car.
 
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Ali

  V6, Trackhawk, GTS
Thought YS had the most powerful NA clio? Or has that since been beaten? :S

I was impressed with the k-tec turbo thing! Was a rocket on track!
 
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TheJesus

YS one made low 240bhp apparently, 'another' Clio made closer to 250bhp. This isn't a dig but I dont know of any other quick Clio's they have had built for them, but it's impressively fast none the less. I'd like to drag race it from a roll to make my mind up if the bottom end is something I should really be working towards saving my money for next though... or be a cheap arse and just get some wilder cams.

Those morego conversions sound good too, would be interesting to see how it compares to other tuners who offer similar packages, but 202bhp seems a tad on the high side for the mods... who knows though
 
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Fred@BTM

  Lionel Richie
you'll have to pop down sometime john, i'm sure yoz knows a deserted airfield nearby

oh and for the record we're going onto our 5th box soon
 
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