Harnesses - talk to me

[Z4MCSL]

So I have just fitted some Sparco Sprints into the 182 and now am looking at harnesses.

I am on a budget and am only on 2 track days so far - 3 and 4 are in September.

3,4,5,6 point harnesses, 3 inches or not etc...what should I be thinking about?

Thanks

 

[Darren61]

Purely on best safety rating - 6

do you have a cage?

 

[Z4MCSL]

no cage yet

 

[robzracing]

If you’re only doing track days a 4 point will be fine. (5 point is better but more awkward) Without a cage you just need to find a way of mounting the shoulder straps behind you.
This angle is critical.
3 inch straps will be the most comfortable unless you use a HANS device in which case 2 inch.


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[Z4MCSL]

Thanks that is helpful - in terms of securing I looked at the harness bars but they look pretty expensive considering you could put that money towards a cage?!

 

[robzracing]

I have a bar welded between the 2 shock turrets. Independent of the cage. Maybe you can find a local fabricator to do this? Shouldn’t be too costly.


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[massiveCoRbyn]

Exactly as above. If it's only a handful of days a year, just fit four points. 3" straps are more comfortable.

 

[Simon1975]

I found trs to be good value and quality. They do a 3 point with seatbelt buckle if it's mainly road use

 

[Robproof]

I’m not experienced at all things Track day cars (just picked my Clio up this year) but, Recently fitted a “unuversal harness” bar to sort the angle of the harness’s, it’s not cheap, but it’s good quality and from a reputable source (Tegiwa).

just while I decide if I fit a cage / half cage

 

[Z4MCSL]

How much is that? KTEC do one but its £400 whcih I may as well put towards a cage

 

[Robproof]

How much is that? KTEC do one but its £400 whcih I may as well put towards a cage

about £180 I think

 

[dann2707]

I’m not experienced at all things Track day cars (just picked my Clio up this year) but, Recently fitted a “unuversal harness” bar to sort the angle of the harness’s, it’s not cheap, but it’s good quality and from a reputable source (Tegiwa).
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just while I decide if I fit a cage / half cage

Seen a few of them snap or bend in the past so I definitely wouldn't feel safe in that

Also learn how to roll your excess harness properly

 

[Simon1975]

Personally a decent half cage for around £550 is a safer option. Especially if being used on track

 

[Z4MCSL]

Yeah I just had a great chat with Mark Fisher motorsport who use safety devices and think I am just going to go for a race spec half cage which can be converted to a full cage at a later point - safety first!

 

[Simon1975]

Safety devices and fulcrum both do the rear cages ready to add front at a later date. Both really good cages

 

[JamesBryan]

Seen a few of them snap or bend in the past so I definitely wouldn't feel safe in that

Also learn how to roll your excess harness properly

Needs going back through the buckle one more time as well 👀

 

[Cub.]

There is a very good link to a schroth harness guide in here;

Mounting Harnesses Correctly

If you are stripping the interior and installing bucket seats, you're likely to be installing race harnesses aswell. It is critical you get the installation of decent harnesses right, and if in doubt seek professional help. By professional, I mean from the manufacturer, a well reputed race /...

cliosport.net

 

[Ph1 Tom]

6 point all the way. Although there is the option of the anti submarining (ASM) type by Schroth.

If you speak to Steve at Sabelt UK he can sell you a set close to end of FIA approval or out of date at a cut price. Perfect for trackdays.

In terms of installation the guide the @Cub. Posted is a good read. For the crotch straps, fit a spreader plate under the floor and an eyebolt to clip on to. Iirc if the seats are mounted low enough I think the bolt holes in the boot area just behind the rear seats give a decent angle.

 

[Z4MCSL]

Thanks guys, I had a lobg chat with Mark Fisher recently and think I'm just gonna get a proper half cage sorted in october/November and will probably get them sort harnesses a well I imagine.

Safety first!

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[Radugns]

Hi,
Who is the guy I can talk regarding Safety Devices cages for Clio mk2?