Help comparing 172 Ph1 with 182 cup please

[benjer172]

Hi. Apols if this has been asked before, but I am new to the forum.

I was wondering if anyone else had owned a Ph1 172 and a 182 cup and was able to compare them?

Having owned a 172 back in the early days of June 2000 in Edinburgh, I moved to Weybridge in 2003 and couldn't justify the 2nd car so had to begrudgingly part with it. I have just "got back in the saddle" and got myself a 182 cup so naturally have been trying to re-aquaint myself with the ol' Clio.

What I've noticed is that there are (not surprisingly) many similarities between the cars but I reckon that the cup feels more "nervous" than I remember the 172 being. This isn't during cornering as much where it is unbelievably grippy, but more on the straights either cruising or with a relatively heavy right foot - and not just a bit of torque steer. This could be down to several things...
1. My memory being shot and remembering the 172 with rose tinted specs. Plus my other car is a heavy Audi A4 Avant quattro...
2. The A & B roads in Surrey are much more tram-lined than in Scotland
3. The 182 cup chassis/set-up being deliberately and noticeably different to the 172 Ph1
4. Something is wrong with my new baby

I'm hoping that it's not #4, so advice from anyone else that is able to do a comparison between the cars would be much appreciated.

Love the forum by the way and if anyone else is in the Weybridge area I'll keep my eyes peeled for you.

 

[Day]

fUbAr might be able to help, he's gone from a mk1 172 to a "cup packed" 182 in the last month.

 

[BigBoreBri]

I had a MK1 172, Williams, and now got a MK2 182 Cup...

Basically i find the steering seems lighter in the 182 to what i remember the 172 being like, it feels a little more "pokey" but generally not any faster although the difference in gearing is more evident between the two.
Handling wise i would say the 172 gave more confidence with its levels of grip but i find the 182 far to nervous and lacking any decent feedback... personally the 172 was never "mint" but compared to the williams, well in fact i wouldnt even compare the two the williams was in a different leauge!

Inside the 182 seems a lot nicer place to be but still the build quality is SHAT, in fact it seems worse than ever in many respects.

Hope that helps...

 

[RichMcc]

I raced a 182 FF in my Ph-Quick and there was naff all between em if that helps
Try searching mate theres TONS of threads that discuss ph1 vs ph2