Help me decide D1000 or D40!!!

[Brett]

Right basically i'm trying to decide between the two.

Its my 1st DSLR camera and I'm a photography newbie.

I can get the nikon d40 18-55mm for £215

Or

The Eos d1000 18-55 for £263 inc £30 cashback.

Which would you recomend bearing in mind i'm a newbie.

Thanks

Brett

 

[micallef1990]

where can you get those from seems a pretty good deal

 

[Brown.]

From what i have seen d40, on that level Nikon seems to kick ass

 

[DanFreemanPhoto]

Imo, the Nikon entry cameras are far superior to Canons.

But bear in mind, whatever make you get, you'll (probably) stick with. So when you have a few grands worth of lenses, its not too easy to switch!

 

[dunganick]

Imo, the Nikon entry cameras are far superior to Canons.

But bear in mind, whatever make you get, you'll (probably) stick with. So when you have a few grands worth of lenses, its not too easy to switch!

and bare in mind how the entry level nikons can limit your choices in lenses

 

[JJ!]

and bare in mind how the entry level nikons can limit your choices in lenses

I would go the D40, or if you can get a good deal the D60 + £30 cash back.

Yes if you choose Nikon and you want Auto Focus your choice of lenses is small

Nikon
AF-S 50mm F1.4 G
AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED
AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED
AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 16-85 F3.5-4.5G IF-ED
AF-S DX VR Zoom-Nikkor 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED
AF-S DX VR Zoom-Nikkor 55-200mm f/4-5.6G IF-ED
AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 12-24mm f/4G IF-ED
AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED II
AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED
AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED
AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED
AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED
AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor 200-400mm f/4G IF-ED
AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED
AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G IF-ED
AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED
AF-S VR Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8G IF-ED
AF-S VR Nikkor 300mm f/2.8G IF-ED
AF-S Nikkor 400mm f/2.8D IF-ED II
AF-S Nikkor 600mm f/4D IF-ED II
AF-S VR Nikkor 200mm f/2G IF-ED
AF-S Nikkor 300mm f/4D IF-ED
AF-S Nikkor 500mm f/4D IF-ED II

AF-S Teleconverter TC-14E II
AF-S Teleconverter TC-17E II
AF-S Teleconverter TC-20E II

Sigma
12-24mm F4.5-5.6 EX DG ASPHERICAL HSM
17-35mm F2.8-4 EX DG ASPHERICAL HSM
APO 50-500mm F4-6.3 EX DG HSM
APO 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG MACRO HSM
APO 100-300mm F4 EX DG HSM
APO 120-300mm F2.8 EX DG HSM
APO 300-800 F5.6 EX DG HSM
APO MACRO 150mm F2.8 EX DG HSM
APO MACRO 180mm F3.5 EX DG IF HSM
10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC HSM
APO 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM
30mm F1.4 EX DC HSM
50mm F1.4 EX DC HSM
APO 800mm f5.6 EX DG HSM
APO 500mm F4.5 EX DG/HSM
APO 300mm F2.8 EX DG/HSM
80-400mm f4.5-5.6 EX DG OS

Tamron
17-50
18-250
18-270

+ if you don't mind manual focus... you can use loads more older lenses dating back to way back when!

 

[dunganick]

Yes if you choose Nikon and you want Auto Focus your choice of lenses is small

Well in comparison it is

oops did i miss the whole sigma range off as well.

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f3.5-4.5 USM Lens
Canon EF 14mm 2.8 L II USM Lens
Canon EF 15mm f2.8 Lens
Canon EF 16-35mm f2.8 L MKII USM Lens
Canon EF 17-40mm f4 L USM Lens
Canon EF-S 17-55mm f2.8 IS USM Lens
Canon EF-S 17-85mm f4-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 IS Lens
Canon EF-S 18-200 f 3.5-5.6 IS Lens
Canon EF 20-35mm f3.5-4.5 USM Lens
Canon EF 20mm f2.8 USM Lens
Canon EF 24-105mm f4 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 24-70mm f2.8 L USM Lens
Canon EF 24mm f1.4 L USM Lens
Canon EF 24mm f2.8 Lens
Canon EF 24mm f1.4L II USM Lens
Canon TS-E 24mm f3.5 L Lens
Canon EF 28-105mm f3.5-4.5 USM II Lens
Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon EF 28-200mm f3.5-5.6 USM Lens
Canon EF 28-300mm f3.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 28-90mm f4-5.6 III Lens
Canon EF 28mm f1.8 USM Lens
Canon EF 28mm f2.8 Lens
Canon EF 35mm f1.4 L USM Lens
Canon EF 35mm f2 Lens
Canon TS-E 45mm f2.8 Lens
Canon EF 50mm f2.5 Macro Lens
Canon EF 50mm f1.2 L USM Lens
Canon EF 50mm f1.4 USM Lens
Canon EF 50mm f1.8 II Lens
Canon EF-S 55-250mm f4-5.6 IS Lens
Canon EF 55-200mm f4.5-5.6 USM II Lens
Canon EF-S 60mm f2.8 USM Macro Lens
Canon MP-E 65mm f2.8 1-5x Macro Lens
Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 L USM Lens
Canon EF 70-300mm f4-5.6 IS USM Lens + Hood + Filter Kit
Canon EF 70-200mm f2.8 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 70-200mm f4 L USM Lens
Canon EF 70-200mm f4 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 DO IS USM Lens
Canon EF 70-300mm f4-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon EF 75-300mm f4-5.6 III Lens
Canon EF 75-300mm f4-5.6 USM III Lens
Canon EF 85mm f1.8 USM Lens
Canon EF 85mm f1.2 L II USM Lens
Canon TS-E 90mm f2.8 Lens
Canon EF 100mm f2.8 USM Macro Lens
Canon EF 100-300mm f4.5-5.6 USM Lens
Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 100mm f2 Lens
Canon EF 135mm f2 L USM Lens
Canon EF 135mm f2.8 Soft Focus Lens
Canon EF 180mm f3.5 L USM Macro Lens
Canon EF 200mm f2.8 L USM MKII Lens
Canon EF200 2.0L IS USM
Canon EF 300mm f2.8 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 300mm f4 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 400mm f2.8 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 400mm f4 DO IS USM Lens
Canon EF 400mm f5.6 L USM Lens
Canon EF 500mm f4 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 600mm f4 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF800 5.6L IS USM

 

[Lagerlout]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=378229

450D for £300. Dumps on the D40 and the 1000D imho, and comes with the 18-55mm IS lens.

 

[JJ!]

Your forgetting that a few of the lenses you listed are specifically designed for full frame cameras, yeah they will work on the entry level cameras, but not at the focal lengths stated!

D60 plus £30 cash back works out same as 450D and IMO its a better camera to use, with better IQ (in my experience only - not all will agree!!!)

 

[dunganick]

Well this is as true on canon as nikon, it depends what crop your sensor is.

It depends what this guy is actually after, we could argue about canon vs nikon all day, personally i preffer canon, however i believe high end nikon bodys are now better than canon bodys, but i much preffer the overall package offered by canon, with lenses, useability etc... but its what your used to. If Nikon didnt have this af-s feature on the d40 i would have probably bought one a year ago and my opinion of canon vs nikon would be different.

I dont think he will be disapointed with either, but it very much depends if he may want to take this hobby further and upgrade his camera or if he just wants a decent slr.

 

[JJ!]

^^ aye very true! We have both listed lenses that cost over 1k... which to be honest... should never really see the light or day on a entry level!!!!

 

[daviebroon]

well the D1000 is 960 more than the D40, so its better by 960

I'd go for the D1000 on that basis

 

[unofficialPete]

Skip the 1000D IMO.

400D's are going for about 250 at the Canon Outlet store.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Canon-Outlet

http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/

There is always second hand, there is a 400D going for 200 delivered at the moment on POTN or I'd personally wait for a 30D to come up over a new 1000D anyday.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=6842188&postcount=1501

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=14

 

[Brett]

Hmm may well go for the D40 then. Why isnt the 1000d rated btw? Amazon for the D40 and Argos for the 1000d Btw.

 

[Lagerlout]

Dp review pitch the 1000D against the D60. Like any of the entry level cameras of these two manufacturers, they find it hard to split them.

Go to a shop and have a play. You'll find it easier to pick on once you handle them.

 

[dunganick]

Hmm may well go for the D40 then. Why isnt the 1000d rated btw? Amazon for the D40 and Argos for the 1000d Btw.

The 1000d is just a bad 400d, canon needed an even more basic model than the 400d to compete with the silly prices the d40 is at.

Imho get the 400d. Or as said look for a 30d or maybe even used 40d.

 

[dk]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=378229

450D for £300. Dumps on the D40 and the 1000D imho, and comes with the 18-55mm IS lens.

450d for £300 gets my vote, got one for my brother, absolute steal at that price, much better than a d40.

 

[UncleGrumpy]

Well in comparison it is

oops did i miss the whole sigma range off as well.

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f3.5-4.5 USM Lens
Canon EF 14mm 2.8 L II USM Lens
Canon EF 15mm f2.8 Lens
Canon EF 16-35mm f2.8 L MKII USM Lens
Canon EF 17-40mm f4 L USM Lens
Canon EF-S 17-55mm f2.8 IS USM Lens
Canon EF-S 17-85mm f4-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 IS Lens
Canon EF-S 18-200 f 3.5-5.6 IS Lens
Canon EF 20-35mm f3.5-4.5 USM Lens
Canon EF 20mm f2.8 USM Lens
Canon EF 24-105mm f4 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 24-70mm f2.8 L USM Lens
Canon EF 24mm f1.4 L USM Lens
Canon EF 24mm f2.8 Lens
Canon EF 24mm f1.4L II USM Lens
Canon TS-E 24mm f3.5 L Lens
Canon EF 28-105mm f3.5-4.5 USM II Lens
Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon EF 28-200mm f3.5-5.6 USM Lens
Canon EF 28-300mm f3.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 28-90mm f4-5.6 III Lens
Canon EF 28mm f1.8 USM Lens
Canon EF 28mm f2.8 Lens
Canon EF 35mm f1.4 L USM Lens
Canon EF 35mm f2 Lens
Canon TS-E 45mm f2.8 Lens
Canon EF 50mm f2.5 Macro Lens
Canon EF 50mm f1.2 L USM Lens
Canon EF 50mm f1.4 USM Lens
Canon EF 50mm f1.8 II Lens
Canon EF-S 55-250mm f4-5.6 IS Lens
Canon EF 55-200mm f4.5-5.6 USM II Lens
Canon EF-S 60mm f2.8 USM Macro Lens
Canon MP-E 65mm f2.8 1-5x Macro Lens
Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 L USM Lens
Canon EF 70-300mm f4-5.6 IS USM Lens + Hood + Filter Kit
Canon EF 70-200mm f2.8 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 70-200mm f4 L USM Lens
Canon EF 70-200mm f4 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 DO IS USM Lens
Canon EF 70-300mm f4-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon EF 75-300mm f4-5.6 III Lens
Canon EF 75-300mm f4-5.6 USM III Lens
Canon EF 85mm f1.8 USM Lens
Canon EF 85mm f1.2 L II USM Lens
Canon TS-E 90mm f2.8 Lens
Canon EF 100mm f2.8 USM Macro Lens
Canon EF 100-300mm f4.5-5.6 USM Lens
Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 100mm f2 Lens
Canon EF 135mm f2 L USM Lens
Canon EF 135mm f2.8 Soft Focus Lens
Canon EF 180mm f3.5 L USM Macro Lens
Canon EF 200mm f2.8 L USM MKII Lens
Canon EF200 2.0L IS USM
Canon EF 300mm f2.8 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 300mm f4 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 400mm f2.8 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 400mm f4 DO IS USM Lens
Canon EF 400mm f5.6 L USM Lens
Canon EF 500mm f4 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 600mm f4 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF800 5.6L IS USM

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