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RS RIP
Don't mind the "helpfull" comments..
I had the same prod; take off the elbow and cut a bit off where the housing is supposed to connect on to the pipe. Mind you to leave some space for the "clamp" to go back on. I think it was like a centimeter that you can remove to leave a bit of 70mm pipe to be able to refit the clamp
(sorry for the English, hope you know what i'm saying with the clamp)
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was just looking at the pic again and it seems you can remove a bit more from the elbow because there further on downthere is another 70mm bit.. Be creative and find out, like i did ;-)
I had the same prod; take off the elbow and cut a bit off where the housing is supposed to connect on to the pipe. Mind you to leave some space for the "clamp" to go back on. I think it was like a centimeter that you can remove to leave a bit of 70mm pipe to be able to refit the clamp
(sorry for the English, hope you know what i'm saying with the clamp)
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was just looking at the pic again and it seems you can remove a bit more from the elbow because there further on downthere is another 70mm bit.. Be creative and find out, like i did ;-)
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RS RIP
No you wo'nt.. do like i did and it fits properly. Just remember it also needs to be tied by a rubber band or something to keep it to the right, or it may foul a coolant hose which WILL leak..
experience i have had
len_beach
ClioSport Club Member
E92 M3,172 track car
Different ways to achieve the same thing I suppose. I created more space by moving the battery backwards slightly and tweaking the coolant hose. No cutting was required.No you wo'nt.. do like i did and it fits properly. Just remember it also needs to be tied by a rubber band or something to keep it to the right, or it may foul a coolant hose which WILL leak..
Golf GT & A4 Avant
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=331529
Check out my pics in this thread. It fitted straight in with a bit of fiddling on the standard elbow. No need to remove coolant hoses and battery etc.
Take the inlet elbow of the inlet, attach to the airbox, remove your existing CAF's from the standard airbox as they'll be no use now, put front end of V6 airbox in and down under the slam panel first with the inlet to the airbox facing towards the headlight direction. start to lay the airbox down and completely compress the inlet hose and work it back onto the inlet.
A silicone elbow helps fitting ALOT easier, but not essential. I've fitted one now and looks much tidier. Try and get a good CAF running down into the wheel arch or foglight otherwise it'll have a real chavy crap sucking/ roar at low revs.
And FYI, my standard 182 with just this mod made 170.9bhp last sunday
Check out my pics in this thread. It fitted straight in with a bit of fiddling on the standard elbow. No need to remove coolant hoses and battery etc.
Take the inlet elbow of the inlet, attach to the airbox, remove your existing CAF's from the standard airbox as they'll be no use now, put front end of V6 airbox in and down under the slam panel first with the inlet to the airbox facing towards the headlight direction. start to lay the airbox down and completely compress the inlet hose and work it back onto the inlet.
A silicone elbow helps fitting ALOT easier, but not essential. I've fitted one now and looks much tidier. Try and get a good CAF running down into the wheel arch or foglight otherwise it'll have a real chavy crap sucking/ roar at low revs.
And FYI, my standard 182 with just this mod made 170.9bhp last sunday
Ultra 197 ex 172 Cup
engine need a wash, its a bit dusty, my lil monster
172 Ph1/Scooby MY00
Isn't that running a little under power? I would expect it to have made closer to 180 or high 170s.
On mine I have reduced the length of the cold air feed and it sits just below the headlight near the top of the wheel arch.
Golf GT & A4 Avant
Really??? I've never known a Renault make book figures
Check out the table of results from the RR day. I'm planning on going back soon with the standard airbox to see what difference there is, but only 1 standard car made more power than mine. Plenty with mods made less too.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=399707&page=22
Golf GT & A4 Avant
Clio-Coby - 182 - 177.6bhp - 153 Torque - Decat, Cat-Back System, Ph1 Airbox with ITG Filter, RSTuner
Olly_mango - 182 - 173.9 bhp - 157 torque - Ktec decat and cat back, panel filter, Custom APT Remap.
Gregg - ph2 172 - 173.5bhp - 153 torque - Ktec cat back, decat, Espace V6 airbox, RSTuner
Pete - 182 Trophy - 173bhp - 153 torque
bach 172 - ph1 172 - 171.8bhp - 155 torque (full exhaust + de cat,pannel filter ,re map)
Yellow Dave - LY 182 - 170.9bhp - 146lb/ft (V6 Espace airbox)
Bassyboi - 182 Racing Blue - 168.1bhp 151lb/ft(PiperX Viper, Yozzasport race system and decat)
Beatjunkie- ph2 172 Monaco - 166.2bhp -143 torque (ktec recessed exhaust)
Chrisjk - ph1 172 - 165 bhp - 149 torque - (panel filter)
Greeny172 - Ph2 172 - 163bhp - 151lb/ft (Decat, Stealth system, RS Tuner, K&N element w/ CAF)
richy22 - PH2 172 - 162.6 BHP - 141 Torque - Yozza Race Exhaust (de-cat not on) Pipercross filter, RsTuner map.
Togusa - PH2 172 - 162bhp - 141 torque (completely standard)
Timmay - 182 Racing Blue - 161bhp 174 lb/ft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
smitchell1 - Ph2 Iceberg 172 - 161 bhp - 141lb of torque!! Matched Inlets, K&N panel filter, Ktec stealth
Mr.AdamB - Mk1 Hybrid - 167.8 bhp - 147 torque - F7r head + Bottomend, megane manifold, side exit, Catcams,RS tuning remap
Highest run of the day made 177, but look at the mods. RR's read differently so you can't compare unless it was done the same day. Timmay managed 161. And I've never heard of a 172 making that standard. 172Ps works out at about 168bhp, so with Renaults figures expect 160bhp
Would you not agree my 182 is pretty healthy compared to the others on the day???
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330i. E30 Touring.
Some very mixed results there ( Timmay - 182 Racing Blue - 161bhp 174 lb/ft... WTF?? :S) so hard to say but what im getting at, V6 airbox wouldnt appear to do anything special over the stock 182 box. Only way though would be to test both back to back
CLIO Iceberg 172
Looking from those results its clear that bar one person the top 5 are all running the same v6, espace, ph1 airbox prob all with a itg replacement, all the lower units seem to be induction kits and panel filters,
so its loking clearer to me that a v6 style airbox with itg filter possibly with a larger CAF would work wonderes on these engines,
i ran 162.1 with a standard engine no mods, so maybe this is the route i need to look at in the future
so its loking clearer to me that a v6 style airbox with itg filter possibly with a larger CAF would work wonderes on these engines,
i ran 162.1 with a standard engine no mods, so maybe this is the route i need to look at in the future
Come over to us mate (Staines, West London just off the m25) We'll be more than happy to help you out for beer tokens
Clio 182 FF
Where was this RR day?
Mine was RR'd at Torque of the Devil by Chris Todd very good outfit and mine made a disapointing 172.9 bhp I was expecting 178 bhp roughly
However that aside mine feels fine on the Road and Mark Fish even commented it was quicker than some he had driven recent which was nice to know.
Personally I cant see how this will make significant enough difference over a decent pannel filter and the stock airbox
No because the results shown vary too much to prove anything. How can a standard 182 with 161 bhp have 174lb/ft ??
Theres one running a Viper with other breathing mods thats not listed as being mapped something it would need really so that figure cant be a true reflection.
Golf GT & A4 Avant
My thoughts behind it was the fact that it's a better design in the sense of direct airflow than the standard 1*2, so when combined with other mods such as matched inlets etc the benefit would become more clear (hopefully). But yes I plan to go back soon with the standard airbox running same CAF and compare, hopefully conditions will be similar.
Fad, 172.9 would be a good stock figure as the 182 is PS not bhp, so again only 177/178 bhp, but don't forget general age and wear and all perform differently depending on how they were runb in. Plus all power at fly figures are guessed based on drag in the gearbox and actual power at the wheels on RR days.
Its an Espace V6 airbox, same size as the Ph1 airbox but with a single large inlet instead of 2 smaller ones. I don't claim it's given me gains as I have nothing to compare against. But it certainly has NOT lost any power over standard.
Fad, 172.9 would be a good stock figure as the 182 is PS not bhp, so again only 177/178 bhp, but don't forget general age and wear and all perform differently depending on how they were runb in. Plus all power at fly figures are guessed based on drag in the gearbox and actual power at the wheels on RR days.
Its an Espace V6 airbox, same size as the Ph1 airbox but with a single large inlet instead of 2 smaller ones. I don't claim it's given me gains as I have nothing to compare against. But it certainly has NOT lost any power over standard.
clio rs
while i was at work, my dad had a go at fitting the airbox - will this do, its right up against the radiator. It does sound loud but when i rev the car & let the pedal go, the revs climb right down. Is this how it shud be, the another OMP cone it rev'd for 1 to 2 seconds and climb'd slowly down.
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Ultra 197 ex 172 Cup
thats one hugeeeeeeeeee fat boy. don't worry man, when you rr it, you'll be no.1 on the list
RS RIP
^^ You NEED to fix that so the filter does'nt foul the coolant hose !!
(was said before..)
It's fouling the little hose to the left there, actually pushing it aside right now. Engine-movement etc. made mine go bust like that
Check out some people's pics and you'll see a big rubber band holding the filterhousing to the right.. you'll need this !
(was said before..)
It's fouling the little hose to the left there, actually pushing it aside right now. Engine-movement etc. made mine go bust like that
Check out some people's pics and you'll see a big rubber band holding the filterhousing to the right.. you'll need this !
RS RIP
not too clear but here is the rubber band i meant;
http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj1/franxey/?action=view¤t=17032009.jpg
http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj1/franxey/?action=view¤t=17032009.jpg
Golf GT & A4 Avant
I didn't notice any difference in the revs dropping, but it will sound loud as it can still suck air in from the engine bay from around the sides of the standard CAF. If you seal it directly onto a CAF it should quieten down a lot.
Mine rested on the end of the radiator, it's because the standard inlet elbow is too long really. But if its only temporary then I wouldn't worry for now. look into getting a silicone elbow and trim it to length and it'll fit fine.
By the looks of it, both Franx and I have got the standard rubber bungee that is used with this airbox to pull it tight across to the metal bar that runs along the side of the battery, in your 2nd photo. You can use anything to do this so long as it fixes securely and so the airbox doesn't rest on anything
Mine rested on the end of the radiator, it's because the standard inlet elbow is too long really. But if its only temporary then I wouldn't worry for now. look into getting a silicone elbow and trim it to length and it'll fit fine.
By the looks of it, both Franx and I have got the standard rubber bungee that is used with this airbox to pull it tight across to the metal bar that runs along the side of the battery, in your 2nd photo. You can use anything to do this so long as it fixes securely and so the airbox doesn't rest on anything
Golf GT & A4 Avant
some more recent pics:
and my CAF kind of hidden behind the carbon surrond:
and my CAF kind of hidden behind the carbon surrond:
Golf GT & A4 Avant
To be honest, I ended up with so many cracked and smashed foglights I was glad not to have to replace one again. But I've been looking into getting some more flexible ducting so I'll change it to black then.
As with gains, I thought there was a slight increase in low down power but that might be the placebo affect. I took it for a run without the CAF and it sounded to chavvy for my liking. Plus I felt the inlet on the airbox after the run and it felt hot so I immediately rigged up a temporary CAF. Runs after this and the airbox still felt cold at the inley. Now I've sealed the airbox to the CAF, nothing but fresh air is going in.
I spoke to the operator just before he took my car onto the rollers and he said no IK's were putting out good figures unless a CAF was fitted to them
Ultra 197 ex 172 Cup
yeah
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