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Here we go again..........
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Bluebeard
ClioSport Moderator
Whichever has fuel
Never a truer word spoken. In all walks of life.
Nickson
ClioSport Club Member
Bluebeard
ClioSport Moderator
Whichever has fuel
Best cash price?
FLOL!
CBR1000RR Fireblade
You know what your work is worth. As a trader you also have to do a job to ahigh standard of quality with amsmile on your face making a profit. That's what all us self employed folk do. The traders on Clio sport do the job and do it right. As a customer wouldn't you rather pay that little bit more and get a proper job with 12 months waranty and a guarantee that the timing is spot on, or would you rather skimp on the cost and drive round in car that has the timing well out and running below power?
I know which one or rather do, buy cheap, buy twice.
Evo 5 RS
Well it's funny you should mention that because that is exactly why I'm glad I don't have to deal with your average bod customer day in day out anymore. You'd be suprised, or maybe you wouldn't, how many people just want to save a few quid!!! Was only 2 days ago I was having a word with matey who does a few MOT's as he gets trade price " Well the place down the road does it for £40...." some wench started yappin
Yeah and they also told you your shocks, brakes and tyres needed changing when they didn't..money well saved I don't think... b*****ds some people!
CBR1000RR Fireblade
Exactly buddy, I have found that there is a link between intelligence and what someone is willing to pay. Hence why my father Inlaw has just timed his 182 up himself and messed it up. All because he has a lower IQ and he was not willing to pay for the job doing properly. There response to me pointing it out;
"we can buy a new engine for £900 if it goes wrong"
I didn't even justify that with a response, I just walked away.
"we can buy a new engine for £900 if it goes wrong"
I didn't even justify that with a response, I just walked away.
Evo 5 RS
best one I had recently was wrong sump plug washer on a Mk1 and got told it was a fcuked headgasket...t**t used to get a lot of business off my back as well.
K THNX BYE!
K THNX BYE!
DrR
ClioSport Club Member
VW Golf GTD
260% JCW
At least someone has the balls.
CBR1000RR Fireblade
Yes buddy, he has made a royal hash of it. The timing is still out and now there is an air leak that they can not find! I haven't been round since, just left them too it. They give me head ache.
172 Cup
I feel it is only fair to name and shame the company responsible for the work. I would hate to think that my car would be left with someone doing that kind of work to find that I then have to pay more to have those errors rectified. If they can't do the job properly in the first place then they deserve to have their reputation tarnished.
I genuinely feel for the users who have been through this situation - I use this forum as a place of knowledge/experience so that I can read reviews on specialist and then base my decision on that.
I went to 519 automotive purely based on what I had read on here and reviews that other users had posted.
I genuinely feel for the users who have been through this situation - I use this forum as a place of knowledge/experience so that I can read reviews on specialist and then base my decision on that.
I went to 519 automotive purely based on what I had read on here and reviews that other users had posted.
172 Cup
Fred
Not being funny but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Not only does it show your total lack of professionalism and integrity but clearly demonstrates that mistakes can be made. You seem totally up for having a dig at absolutely everyone and can never be at fault.
Well here it is, someone else diagnosing your mistake and another company rubber stamping that view and correcting it. Think next time before you start beating your own drum, next time it could be you!
Taken from here:
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?561913-My-172-monaco
Re: My 172 monaco
Hey Guys,
Quick update on the engine, finally got it back today, with the head screwed on and timed up. (from BTM)
Re: My 172 monaco
Went to Matts this morning, to get it mapped, some good some bad.
Good: she pulled 190bhp and 157lbft on the first run
Bad: Matt reckons the cam timing is out slightly (apparently these engines are very sensitive to it) because the power tails off at around 6700rpm and she can't hold tick over very well.
Re: My 172 monaco
Not being funny but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Not only does it show your total lack of professionalism and integrity but clearly demonstrates that mistakes can be made. You seem totally up for having a dig at absolutely everyone and can never be at fault.
Well here it is, someone else diagnosing your mistake and another company rubber stamping that view and correcting it. Think next time before you start beating your own drum, next time it could be you!
Taken from here:
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?561913-My-172-monaco
Re: My 172 monaco
Hey Guys,
Quick update on the engine, finally got it back today, with the head screwed on and timed up. (from BTM)
Re: My 172 monaco
Went to Matts this morning, to get it mapped, some good some bad.
Good: she pulled 190bhp and 157lbft on the first run
Bad: Matt reckons the cam timing is out slightly (apparently these engines are very sensitive to it) because the power tails off at around 6700rpm and she can't hold tick over very well.
Re: My 172 monaco
Got the car back today from ktec, all done and dusted she finally ticks over after having their gen90 ecu fitted and setup, and on their dyno made 191hp 160lbft that'll do.
The car is so much smoother now and pulls hard all the way upto the redline, plus now I've finished bedding the engine in this little car even though it's only got 190hp really does shift I love it.
Would like to say thanks to mike for sorting out the rattles from the engine and setting the timing correctly and andy for mapping the car, cheers fellas
she finally ticks over after having their gen90 ecu fitted and setup, and on their dyno made 191hp 160lbft that'll do.The car is so much smoother now and pulls hard all the way upto the redline, plus now I've finished bedding the engine in this little car even though it's only got 190hp really does shift
I love it.Would like to say thanks to mike for sorting out the rattles from the engine and setting the timing correctly and andy for mapping the car, cheers fellas
^no there's NO EXAMPLES OF MISTAKES
Matt surname removed car? i've never done any engine work on that car ever! he bought me a "rebuilt bottom end" and worked cylinder head to replace his f**ked 135bhp one, on inspection i found a score in the block i wasn't happy with and kicked the job out of the workshop, he got the people who did the head and bottom end to time it up
maybe you should learn the facts first eh?
and for the record i haven't named or shamed in this thread
8.5/10 for effort though!
Matt surname removed car? i've never done any engine work on that car ever! he bought me a "rebuilt bottom end" and worked cylinder head to replace his f**ked 135bhp one, on inspection i found a score in the block i wasn't happy with and kicked the job out of the workshop, he got the people who did the head and bottom end to time it up
maybe you should learn the facts first eh?
and for the record i haven't named or shamed in this thread
8.5/10 for effort though!
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Marc.
ClioSport Club Member
Fred
Not being funny but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Not only does it show your total lack of professionalism and integrity but clearly demonstrates that mistakes can be made. You seem totally up for having a dig at absolutely everyone and can never be at fault.
Well here it is, someone else diagnosing your mistake and another company rubber stamping that view and correcting it. Think next time before you start beating your own drum, next time it could be you!
Taken from here:
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?561913-My-172-monaco
Re: My 172 monaco
Hey Guys,
Quick update on the engine, finally got it back today, with the head screwed on and timed up. (from BTM)
Re: My 172 monaco
Went to Matts this morning, to get it mapped, some good some bad.
Good: she pulled 190bhp and 157lbft on the first run
Bad: Matt reckons the cam timing is out slightly (apparently these engines are very sensitive to it) because the power tails off at around 6700rpm and she can't hold tick over very well.
Re: My 172 monaco
Got the car back today from ktec, all done and dusted
The car is so much smoother now and pulls hard all the way upto the redline, plus now I've finished bedding the engine in this little car even though it's only got 190hp really does shift
Would like to say thanks to mike for sorting out the rattles from the engine and setting the timing correctly and andy for mapping the car, cheers fellas
If there has indeed been a mistake made by Fred, everyone's human. As he stated, this particular company has screwed up seven times, and that's only the times that Fred himself has rectified.
For what it's worth, I've been to two different Renault "specialists," BTM and JMS. And I'd recommend both to everyone else, I'll only ever use these two in future.
Evo 5 RS
I think that engine turned up the day I picked up my bumper, and i remember that!
CBR1000RR Fireblade
Fred
Not being funny but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Not only does it show your total lack of professionalism and integrity but clearly demonstrates that mistakes can be made. You seem totally up for having a dig at absolutely everyone and can never be at fault.
Well here it is, someone else diagnosing your mistake and another company rubber stamping that view and correcting it. Think next time before you start beating your own drum, next time it could be you!
Taken from here:
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?561913-My-172-monaco
Re: My 172 monaco
Hey Guys,
Quick update on the engine, finally got it back today, with the head screwed on and timed up. (from BTM)
Re: My 172 monaco
Went to Matts this morning, to get it mapped, some good some bad.
Good: she pulled 190bhp and 157lbft on the first run
Bad: Matt reckons the cam timing is out slightly (apparently these engines are very sensitive to it) because the power tails off at around 6700rpm and she can't hold tick over very well.
Re: My 172 monaco
Got the car back today from ktec, all done and dusted
The car is so much smoother now and pulls hard all the way upto the redline, plus now I've finished bedding the engine in this little car even though it's only got 190hp really does shift
Would like to say thanks to mike for sorting out the rattles from the engine and setting the timing correctly and andy for mapping the car, cheers fellas
TBH mate, if fred did ever do anything like this im pretty certain he would rectify the fault if there was one. thats why he tests the cars and offers 12 months warranty on the jobs he does and tests.
im not saying fred has ever made a mistake but thats what warranty is for.
thats why i did a 5 hour round trip to take my car there for work doing. because its done right
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Seriously, megaLOL at even trying to pwnt fred, its like trying to knock out allah and god with a meat slam...
read the BTM threads, the guys UNTOUCHABLE.
Clio T 314hp c43 AMG
Unless someone made the mistake of not going to Fred
Mmmmm 1 bhp from a gen90 I must invest! (unless I read it wrong) 1k well spent.
Evo 5 RS
Lol Naith you have a way with words
Just to put everyone straight..Fred has never worked on my engine, he did discover the score on the bore, so i took it back to the engine builder who then timed it up but it was incorrect. I then took the car to Ktec and they timed it up correctly. So this supposed mistake of Fred's is a lie!
As for the 1hp gain, first off it was between two completely different rolling roads and the gen 90 was fitted because the standard ECU couldn't cope with the modifications I had done to the engine, so this had to be changed.
So please in future get your facts straight before posting!!!
As for the 1hp gain, first off it was between two completely different rolling roads and the gen 90 was fitted because the standard ECU couldn't cope with the modifications I had done to the engine, so this had to be changed.
So please in future get your facts straight before posting!!!
Bluebeard
ClioSport Moderator
Whichever has fuel
Fred
Not being funny but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Not only does it show your total lack of professionalism and integrity but clearly demonstrates that mistakes can be made. You seem totally up for having a dig at absolutely everyone and can never be at fault.
Well here it is, someone else diagnosing your mistake and another company rubber stamping that view and correcting it. Think next time before you start beating your own drum, next time it could be you!
Taken from here:
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?561913-My-172-monaco
Re: My 172 monaco
Hey Guys,
Quick update on the engine, finally got it back today, with the head screwed on and timed up. (from BTM)
Re: My 172 monaco
Went to Matts this morning, to get it mapped, some good some bad.
Good: she pulled 190bhp and 157lbft on the first run
Bad: Matt reckons the cam timing is out slightly (apparently these engines are very sensitive to it) because the power tails off at around 6700rpm and she can't hold tick over very well.
Re: My 172 monaco
Got the car back today from ktec, all done and dusted
The car is so much smoother now and pulls hard all the way upto the redline, plus now I've finished bedding the engine in this little car even though it's only got 190hp really does shift
Would like to say thanks to mike for sorting out the rattles from the engine and setting the timing correctly and andy for mapping the car, cheers fellas
Just to put everyone straight..Fred has never worked on my engine, he did discover the score on the bore, so i took it back to the engine builder who then timed it up but it was incorrect. I then took the car to Ktec and they timed it up correctly. So this supposed mistake of Fred's is a lie!
As for the 1hp gain, first off it was between two completely different rolling roads and the gen 90 was fitted because the standard ECU couldn't cope with the modifications I had done to the engine, so this had to be changed.
So please in future get your facts straight before posting!!!
MicKPM
ClioSport Trader
Clio16v/Zoe Z.E.50
This is why, like Fred said above, you shouldn't name and shame as one persons so called "Facts" can turn out to be nothing but billy bulls**t which can hurt a well built reputation over night.
If a company has made a genuine mistake then they should be given the chance to correct it by the customer before the mud slinging starts. If a company continues to make the same mistake time and time again then their reputation will start to suffer because of it as people leave them genuine and fair feedback on sites like this. If someone wants to use NWP against the advice of customers that have had a bad experience then that's up to them. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink as the old saying goes.
Mick
If a company has made a genuine mistake then they should be given the chance to correct it by the customer before the mud slinging starts. If a company continues to make the same mistake time and time again then their reputation will start to suffer because of it as people leave them genuine and fair feedback on sites like this. If someone wants to use NWP against the advice of customers that have had a bad experience then that's up to them. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink as the old saying goes.
Mick
