Hi-spec 4 pots

[one in a million]

lol true point, it is only for show, as he will be polishing them everyday after coming home from work, i wouldnt be suprised if he bought them, and framed them on his parcel shelf

 

[one in a million]

as for driving like a granny, his like me.....looks through the steering wheel an not over it

 

[Stava]

SRS?

 

[Joe R26]

SRS?

 

[MarcB]

Speak to the user NOOS who has a part in the traders section

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?164-RIKUS-Automotive

My kit is not the cheapest(k-tec wilwwod), but it is stronger, looks better than most of them while retaining calliper sold by the dealer, the other interest is there a full variety of break pads available for those ( EBC,mintex,ferrodo,CL,pagid, ect,ect) compared to other kit (like the k-teck one) where there is only one or two choice. and the 3rd advantage is its size. by being oversize, it generate less heat for more friction resulting on overall better braking performance.

This is what I can supply at the moment. I will create thread shortly.

- Megane 225 brembo kit: 280mm ( you retain oem 280mm disks) = 870 Euro
- Megane 225 brembo kit: 300mm (you need to upgrade to 300mm disks) = 850 Euro
- Megane 225 brembo kit: 283mm+2 pieces floating disk = 1350 Euro
- Megane 225 brembo kit: 300 mm+2 pieces floating disk = 1330 Euro
- Brackets and mounting nuts and bolt for Megane 225 Brembo = 260 Euro ( calliper need to be modified for 280mm set up)
- 2 pieces floating disk kit alone = 483 Euro

Best regards.

 

[Jekyll]

Thanks for all the input guys.

As mentioned, My car is my daily (may do the odd trackday here and there). I understand the standard setup is ok for my needs, but It's something that I like the idea of and have fancied for a while. I will be in a financial position to buy them so I thought why not. I was going with the jamsport wilwoods setup (same as Oliver James has) but came across these and was just after people's views on them as a product, as they seemed cheaper. I'm not really interested in weight as I have full interior and 2118s, which people will know aren't the lightest of wheels.

 

[Stava]

FPMSL.

 

[Cup_Phil]

I'm out

Apparently tuition instantly turns you into Senna with your new "awesome trail braking skills dog" - and your standard clio will be flying past cup race cars LOL

 

[Stava]

And a bit of weight saving will do the same right? You clearly haven't read through the thread properly have you.

The guy isn't even going to do trackdays, so it's even more of a waste of money.

 

[Munson]

It's his money though and he wants 4-pots. Lol

 

[Greeny.]

I really don't see the point of 4 pots on any 172/182 unless you have money to burn, a decent set of discs, lines and fluid with DS2500's or any 'race' spec pads are insane, its not exactly a heavy car to stop!

 

[Nick172Cup]

I'm out

Apparently tuition instantly turns you into Senna with your new "awesome trail braking skills dog" - and your standard clio will be flying past cup race cars LOL

Actually speechless at how much of an idiot you really are, you failed to see the point I was making and the op has made completely. Very clever you are for a 32 year old but lacking reading skills and common sense.

 

[mr.pink87]

Actually speechless at how much of an idiot you really are, you failed to see the point I was making and the op has made completely. Very clever you are for a 32 year old but lacking reading skills and common sense.

IIRC Phil only stated the technical advantages of 4-piston calipers over the standard calipers. Then came the tuition gang...

 

[Cup_Phil]

And a bit of weight saving will do the same right? You clearly haven't read through the thread properly have you.

The guy isn't even going to do trackdays, so it's even more of a waste of money.

Actually speechless at how much of an idiot you really are, you failed to see the point I was making and the op has made completely. Very clever you are for a 32 year old but lacking reading skills and common sense.

Have either of YOU read the thread?

It started with a question about what 4 pots to fit - and I agree with it being his daily driver it isn't worth fitting any at all - but it's his money and his choice

It then got de-railed with a whole "4 pots are completely useless even on a full blown track car like burpspeeds - they offer no advantages at all" rant
Which I then corrected - because clearly they do offer advantages and some fairly major ones at that

You and the "tuition makes us all Colin Mcrae" squad then started slagging me off like a bunch of single-thought-morons

My advice was aimed at the plethora of people who will find this thread after searching for 4 pots and think that there is absolutely no benefit to them at all - which is completely incorrect - not at the person who started the thread as it's his money and his choice.

IIRC Phil only stated the technical advantages of 4-piston calipers over the standard calipers. Then came the tuition gang...

Correct!

 

[Stava]

The OP can go and do whatever he wants, as Roy said, it's his own cash.

However, I am that tuition gang, pinky. Phil is right with the technical shizzle. The thing is, it matters not when you are out on track. This is because the average trackday driver will lose more time (vs the perfect lap, in the same car) through driving mistakes than he can possibly make up with a poxy bit of weight saving from some brake calipers.

.2 of a second in a quarter mile? LOL, one dodgy gear change will cost more time than that.

 

[Cup_Phil]

For the benefit of Nick and the people who don't seem to be able to read but then accuse me of not understanding the thread - here's the posts I was replying to..

Had them on mine.

Waste of money, standard set us is more than enough.

standard calipers, with uprated discs, pads lines and fluids are more than enough.

Been mentioned time and time again, as its 99% correct. 4 pots look bling, but for everday driving and a few track days O/E calipers are more than sufficient.

Good enough for me

OP - http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...d-4-pots-or-std-calipers/page2&highlight=pots

Have a read in there, some good info from Tony who uses his race car with standard calipers.

"Waste of money" "race car with standard calipers" - not quite the same as someone asking if 4-pots are worth £600 on a daily drive is it?

 

[mr.pink87]

The OP can go and do whatever he wants, as Roy said, it's his own cash.

However, I am that tuition gang, pinky. Phil is right with the technical shizzle. The thing is, it matters not when you are out on track. This is because the average trackday driver will lose more time (vs the perfect lap, in the same car) through driving mistakes than he can possibly make up with a poxy bit of weight saving from some brake calipers.

.2 of a second in a quarter mile? LOL, one dodgy gear change will cost more time than that.

I assume the average trackday driver doesn't need adjustable suspension, sticky tires, bucket seats etc aswell, as his driving is so poor that he will never ever improve his tuition to a level where the car is the limiting factor?

Arrogance of some self-called Senna jrs is shocking on here imo.

 

[Stava]

The thing is, a novice will feel the difference when changing his suspension, and fitting sticky tyres. He will feel the difference and comfort when he sits in his bucket seats.

What he won't feel or see a difference in, will be the expensive brakes he just spent a small fortune on.

Arrogant? No, not really. I just have a different point of view to you.

 

[Fletcher]

Won't he won't feel or see a difference in, will be the expensive brakes he just spent a small fortune on.

.

I did..

BTW I love my 4 pots.

 

[Stava]

I don't dislike them. As I have said before, I have them fitted on the Rallye.

But IMO I think you can benefit from spending the money somewhere else.

However, this is not what the thread is about, the OP is going to buy some anyway.

End thread.

 

[Cup_Phil]

The thing is, a novice will feel the difference when changing his suspension, and fitting sticky tyres. He will feel the difference and comfort when he sits in his bucket seats.

What he won't feel or see a difference in, will be the expensive brakes he just spent a small fortune on.

Arrogant? No, not really. I just have a different point of view to you.

You are however ENTIRELY wrong

My 106 gti was only mildly modified and I was a very amateur driver - but fitting brembo's too it I noticed a huge difference.
The brakes didn't overheat after 20 laps like they did before, they were more progressive so I could apply more braking without locking the wheels up, and the car stopped a lot quicker so I could brake later

Because of the confidence they gave me I could brake later and harder which saved me a lot of time on laps.
Yes a bit more driving talent would have helped hit a better line - but I would still have braked 50 yards earlier to compensate for the standard calipers

 

[Stava]

But that is on a 106, not a Clio!!!!!! Standard brakes on a 106 are rubbish! Did you read any of my other posts? Like the one where I mention I have a 106 and have 4 pots on it? And that I think they are fantastic on it?

The brakes are great on the Clio. And that is why people suggest not buying 4 pots for a Clio.

 

[Sam@NP]

I love my Wilwoods, they DO give better braking but the step up in braking performance is hard to justify when you can just stick meaty pads and HC disc on with the standard calipers. I got mine at a bargain price so it was a no brainer for me and they look cool.

 

[Cup_Phil]

I have DS2500's and High Carbon discs on mine - the braking is "good" but after 4 hours on track it cooks the fluid
I had brembo's on the 106 and the braking was fantastic - and a whole day on track had no overheating issues at all

I'll be getting 4-pots next year for the clio

 

[Fred@BTM]

^sounds like you're too good for the 2500's, i'd step up and go for 3000's or better

 

[Meek_racing]

I love my Wilwoods, they DO give better braking but the step up in braking performance is hard to justify when you can just stick meaty pads and HC disc on with the standard calipers. I got mine at a bargain price so it was a no brainer for me and they look cool.

Knew I should have charged you more

 

[Cup_Phil]

^sounds like you're too good for the 2500's, i'd step up and go for 3000's or better

I would say it's more my lack of skill lol but yeah I plan to - in my 4 pots

 

[Fletcher]

I would say it's more my lack of skill lol but yeah I plan to - in my 4 pots

I run DS3000 pads in my 4 pots

 

[Fred@BTM]

Hero's, the lot of you! :rasp:

 

[Tony Hunter]

Hero's, the lot of you! :rasp:

Exactly.

 

[Fletcher]

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Hero's, the lot of you! :rasp:

Heroes*