HID/Xenon Light? MOT Fail?!?

[Poopensharten]

Right so if and when i fit these HID/Xenon Conversion are they going to fail my MOT? Im a bit curios to know as they obviously dont have headlight washers or auto adjusting?

I dont wanna hear about a mate of a mate that got the MOT down a back street, anyone confirm that thye have passed an MOT with no problems with theese fitted or am i wasting my time?

Regards, Dan

 

[Sym0n]

As fitting after market HIDs to a vehicle that didn't originally come with them (DfT LINK) is illegal, I'd assume that it's an instant MOT failure. However unless the beam is miles off I doubt a tester would fail on it, especially on a 172 as s/he may not know that they aren't standard.

Think you need to weigh up the pros and cons of fitting them and risks associated with doing so.

 

[Poopensharten]

Thanks mate. just what i was looking for.

A bit of a gamble, although i suppose i could put the standard set up back in for a day?

 

[Alan]

The HID police should be along soon to sort this out for you mate..

 

[Robclio98]

I've being looking into a HID kit for my car mate, and im in the same boat im not sure if to get some... anyway found this link on another forum.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

hope this helps abit?

 

[fUbAr]

The Ph1 172 uses projector lenses anyway.... so I very much doubt anyone's going to notice as long as they're aligned properly.

 

[Poopensharten]

The Ph1 172 uses projector lenses anyway.... so I very much doubt anyone's going to notice as long as they're aligned properly.

Thats what i was thinking actualy, screw it, im gonna just get them and see how i get on. Ive got until March anyway

 

[tim124]

i wouldnt worry at all. asuming you havnt gone for really blue bulbs, with the projector lenses they wont even notice

 

[Craig]

it will be ok mate just get them

 

[fUbAr]

4700k are the ones to get

 

[Christopher]

You'll be fine as long as you have projector units!

 

[Sym0n]

4700k are the ones to get

I'd say 6000k, but each to their own.

 

[Poopensharten]

6000k is what im after

 

[Alan]

I roll wi 8000k's...tbh i did order 6000k's and the guy sent the wrong kit and i couldn't be arsed sending them back...mine have been fitted nearly a year now and not a problem!

 

[jesus]

the higher the bluer, the lower the brighter

standard 4300ks ftw!

 

[Poopensharten]

I roll wi 8000k's...tbh i did order 6000k's and the guy sent the wrong kit and i couldn't be arsed sending them back...mine have been fitted nearly a year now and not a problem!

On the 197? I thought yours came with the Xenons Alan???

What do you think then? Go wae the 8000k's or 6000k's?

 

[BioHzrd]

Long as there Projectors your fine as chris said mine passed its MOT with 6Ks !

 

[Luke.]

when u fit xenons iirc you are supposed to have headlight washers! but weather the mot man spots it or not is another thing! i doubt he will bother bout it!

 

[BioHzrd]

when u fit xenons iirc you are supposed to have headlight washers! but weather the mot man spots it or not is another thing! i doubt he will bother bout it!

No your not thats for Factory Fit says nothing about aftermarket ! :rasp:

 

[Bash]

ffs people, I'm sure if you search the majority of my posts have been trying to explain HID lamps to people.

1stly, headlight washers are needed to mot only when its a factory fitted extra. You are aloud any type of light as long as its white.

2ndly, a xenon arc lamp can only produce and this is a fact so listen, can only produce near daylight which is 5600k plus or minus 1000k. the only time you will get a different CT is at the end of its life where it will turn pink and green. Anything over 6500K is not being made by the lamp but the outside of the bulb has been painted blue. This process will attenuate the lumance of your bulb by about 3dbw (around 0.5 candel) per aprox 100kelvin (ovbiously depending on the type of coating used).

3rdly, remember if in order for a lamp to produce white light it must have equal amounts of red, green and blue. If it doesn’t, excusing a few hundredths of a degree then your bulbs are not legal.

 

[Alan]

On the 197? I thought yours came with the Xenons Alan???

What do you think then? Go wae the 8000k's or 6000k's?

Nah not as standard matey..

I'd go with 6000k's..

 

[Craig]

^^agree 6k all the way

 

[Poopensharten]

Aye thats what ill do then, i can get them for £79.99

 

[BioHzrd]

Nah not as standard matey..

I'd go with 6000k's..

aye you got a cheap 197 :rasp::rasp::rasp:

 

[sean182cup]

they will only fail the mot if the beam pattern and alinement is not correct, wtch if you use projector headlicts then the beam pattern will be fine if you use any other head light like the standard clear ones fitted to say a 1.2 clio,then you will have a very scattered beam pattern with no defined correct dip to it, thus glaring other drivers(my pet hate)

 

[Sym0n]

No your not thats for Factory Fit says nothing about aftermarket ! :rasp:

Department for Transport says FAIL. :nono:

2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.

 

[Alan]

aye you got a cheap 197 :rasp::rasp::rasp:

Hmm...recaro's, brembo's, limited edition...need i go on ya wee student nobber!!

 

[ben lee]

the department of transport ruels are diffrent to mot rules.

if a car is fitted from standered hid lams you do not need headlamp washers head lamp washers are not part of the test.

if you fit a hid kit it will pass if the beam is set correctly and the bulbs show whit light on plain white paper bulbs can look blue and still pass.

 

[TheKing]

I got 6000k on mine they look brill at night and it passed no problems

 

[BioHzrd]

Hmm...recaro's, brembo's, limited edition...need i go on ya wee student nobber!!

aye on yi go !!

 

[Poopensharten]

Hmm...recaro's, brembo's, limited edition...need i go on ya wee student nobber!!

lol

 

[BioHzrd]

lol

Hes just jealous that my Mk3 "Student Bucket" is cooler than his...

 

[Alan]

Sure why not Dean, next time I see you am dippin maps ma baws!!

 

[caister]

They are fine mine passed ok. 4300k FTW IMO everything else looks blue