hmm, get rid of my ITB's?

[Martin_172]

wouldnt bother with a turbo on a clio, imagine the gearbox when it spools up and all that boost comes in!

supercharger would be better due the way it delivers power.

but in all honesty surely anything over 240-250bhp isnt useable on track in a FWD clio?

 

[TheJesus]

matts car didn't go in a straight line!

you keep saying Mosler V12, i'm 99.9% sure they're only available in V8 or V8 supercharged

I might be getting confused with the Vision K2, charged V12 BMW engine, Mosler is V8 twin turbo Corvette Lingenfelter engine. They're both American and look similarish... in fact it may have been the K2 at Silverstone and not the Mosler thinking back...

 

[MarkM]

that rolls in at £10170

lol

Personally I think a 250bhp (ish) charger conversion on standard compression would be nice. I think this could be done for around 5k.

 

[Peperami]

on top then you need to sort the box (you will smash the stock one to bits)..

mine has cost 3k
+£770 for the gripper diff
+£280 for the driveshafts

brakes = £600 for some decent 4 pots etc

ive just hit the 23k mark, plus the car and trust me ... its not fun LOL

Why did you not buy a 182 cup racer, sva it, and convert it to right hand drive?

You'd have got to do a project, and had a one off race car... 15k max.

 

[jph172]

Some ppl have jus got too much money to spend lol
23k u need ur head tested! i bet matt didnt spend that much on the clio tt?!
Didnt the rotrex superchargers produce around 250bhp anyway?
Jon- surely with all that power ur still beating a lot of supercars anyway or givin thema run for their money?

 

[TheJesus]

that rolls in at £10170

lol

Personally I think a 250bhp (ish) charger conversion on standard compression would be nice. I think this could be done for around 5k.

can you leave the engine stock on a boosted engine? I know you can, but will it last more than a few thousand miles before it's showing major signs of being worn out?

Some ppl have jus got too much money to spend lol
23k u need ur head tested! i bet matt didnt spend that much on the clio tt?!
Didnt the rotrex superchargers produce around 250bhp anyway?
Jon- surely with all that power ur still beating a lot of supercars anyway or givin thema run for their money?

Depends what Rotrex you use I guess, but with a full engine build without bodies it should be producing 350+bhp at least (take note here Ben! lol)
My car wont do in supercars, it's about Porsche Carrera 4 quick at a guess, as I gave Keiran Richardson a total pasting coming off a roundabout onto a dual carriageway in Wilmslow, but I did carry more speed through. He wasn't best pleased and I just pulled away, but I had momentum on my side lol.

Only car I've really been totally owned by was an R34 GTS-T that must have been tuned to f**k, as it left me like I was in reverse and the flames made mine look like a candle. A chipped 535 I couldn't get past either, lower speeds he held me up, at higher speeds the gap just remained the same.

 

[Monkey_beast_182]

SC FTW! I think you'd find the car more drivable with a SC than a turbo. The power would come in throughout the power-band with the SC, but with the turbo you'd get it in one big lump, and I think you'd find the car undrivable with that much power and torque through your wheels. 240bhp in a Saab 93 was enough, and they have MONSTER torque!

 

[MarkM]

can you leave the engine stock on a boosted engine? I know you can, but will it last more than a few thousand miles before it's showing major signs of being worn out?

Autodelta conversion on the Alfa has 0.35bar on a standard engine

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/57210/alfa_romeo_147.html

Also the saxo conversions done by GMC run on standard compression

http://www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk/rotrex.html

Contacting GMC would give you an idea of how long they would expect components to last.

 

[TheJesus]

it's not really an issue, just interested. I want my engine rebuilding, top and bottom end. It's had a hard life bless it, but it's had to put up with 20k+ miles of abuse from me.

I'm deffo not going down the forced induction route though, I'll settle for the most powerful F4R NA engine in the club instead

 

[drhowser]

i was going to say, if you were looking at doing it for the sake of doing it. you might as well build another car. if you want more life from the re-built engine, have a look at these guys too.

http://www.frozensolid.co.uk/

 

[TheJesus]

Eventually I'll put my current engine in a Mk1 Williams shell when I have the time and money, then get a new engine for this one and either do something to that, or just sell it and get an M5

 

[ben_p]

Some ppl have jus got too much money to spend lol
23k u need ur head tested! i bet matt didnt spend that much on the clio tt?!
Didnt the rotrex superchargers produce around 250bhp anyway?
Jon- surely with all that power ur still beating a lot of supercars anyway or givin thema run for their money?

no.

they can boost upto 550hp. (its all on the model and kgps)

 

[drhowser]

how about keeping your car as it is now, and going down the tt route with a williams? a mate of mine was looking at doing that to an exclusive, but i always thought a williams tt would be great!

 

[ben_p]

i just dont want to fit a tt engine. they are not a engine i like, i was thinking of fitting a teg SC engine - but they dont fit

 

[LegoHead]

hmmm... really in 2 minds... 280bhp NA track car, or 400+bhp boosted monster. If it wasn't for the fact I could sell the ITB's so easily and buy turbo's/chargers and intercooler and not really pay much extra out it wouldn't be a problem, as I'd stick with ITB's, but it's the fact I'm getting more work done anyway and instead of having a HC engine I can do a LC engine and boost it for 50-75% more power.

I'm guessing 400+bhp wont be good on track without spending money on LSD's etc and even then will be a handful? :S

For track isnt it more a question of whats the power delivery like, which you'd need for exiting corners? This is where the speed would be.

Would you get much lag on a 400bhp clio? Guessing you're talking about 1.8t?

Edit - just read rest of the thread, you've decided on s'charger's.

Coming out of corners in the correct gear, there is next to no lag from the turbo. Second gear rolling is just mental. You do need to be higher up in the revs to get the boost though.

 

[edde]

a charger as turbo lag is just pants.

Not if you sixe a good spec turbo or use some of the nw stuff like the megan Rs has.