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How long to change brakes and suspension?



Thrifty_Chicken

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 182
As the title suggests, how long would it take to change discs, pads, shocks, and springs on the driveway? Would I be able to do it in a day or are there hidden nightmares I should account for? From a cursory inspection the car doesn't seem particularly corroded, but are there any potential problem areas that I should be on the lookout for?
 

Thrifty_Chicken

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 182
Ok that's cool, there's going to be two of us working on the car so I'm more confident about doing it in one day. Ive done a few bits on my MX5 and it's basically a giant Lego kit, but I've never worked on anything else and didn't want to be surprised by obscure tools or bolts you can't access unless you have a spare 5 year old to reach into tight spaces 😏
 

cp1991

ClioSport Club Member
  clio 197
If you're doing top mounts and don't have an impact gun make sure you have an offset 21mm spanner, as quite a few of the kits I've seen don't have a 21mm in them and a few extra allen keys or hex bits of the same diameter. Also remember to break the top mount nuts free whilst the car is still on the ground .I've managed to snap quite a few in my time before buying my impact gun.

also not a problem area as such but be careful of the driveshaft on the passenger side when pulling on the hub etc as it can be quite easy to pop the shaft out and loose all your gearbox oil.

other than that really no issues or obscure tools needed and the suspension is actually quite easy to work.
 

Cribert

ClioSport Club Member
  Cup 172
I always find it depends on how buggered/rusted the bolts are. That’s the stumbling blocks. Otherwise follow the guides and it’s very straight forward
 

RichValver

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 16v/172 daily
As is mentioned above, I'd be making sure you can undo the front top mount nuts first. Especially if you don't have an impact gun. Pop to a local garage to have them loosened off if you have any problem with them.

Front discs can have a locating screw fitted too which can be a Ballache if you round it off

Remember to refit the spacer behind rear discs when fitting replacements

Everything else is pretty straight forward tbh
 

leeds2592

ClioSport Club Member
  Bean 182
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banhama

ClioSport Club Member
Remember to refit the spacer behind rear discs when fitting replacements

This caught out a garage, and later me, and it will cause the bearing in the disc to quickly fail if you don't re-fit or replace these.
They often come off with the old disc, and are not supplied with the new disc.
I got replacements from RTR parts
 

Thrifty_Chicken

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 182
They often come off with the old disc, and are not supplied with the new disc.
Already ordered, I think I saw a post on here a while back where someone mentioned them being installed the wrong way round too, I'll have to check before I start putting things back together lol
 

banhama

ClioSport Club Member
Already ordered, I think I saw a post on here a while back where someone mentioned them being installed the wrong way round too, I'll have to check before I start putting things back together lol

That link to the part explains which way to fit them if it's not obvious when you take the old ones off.
Good luck
 

td_dan

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio DCi
Droplinks can also be a pain so for the price worth changing at the same time
 

Thrifty_Chicken

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 182
Finally got round to doing the brakes. Turns out when I checked all the boxes I naively assumed that the rears would both be in the same box like the front ones, so I'm missing a rear disc 🤦‍♂️
The other issue is that all the links talking about the disc spacers mention a flat side and a chamfered side, but both sides have a chamfer. One side has a larger diameter, so which side should be facing the car?
 

Thrifty_Chicken

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 182
Also, my front pads (genuine Renault) don't fit with the anti squeal shims. Are the shims actually supposed to be there or did they come with the Brembo pads that were already on there?
 

Thrifty_Chicken

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 182
Oh my f**king god, the rear caliper won't go back on now. When I took the rear disc off it was missing the spacer, so I dutifully fitted the new spacer with the "flat side facing out" and now the caliper doesn't line up with the hub
 
  172
have you wound the rear piston back into the calliper to account for the new pads being thicker?

Easily done with a flat bar or the long thin bit of a big screwdriver.
 

Thrifty_Chicken

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 182
That's one rear disc and pads changed, and one front. May have had a slight mishap and ended up with a piston on the floor in a puddle of fluid, but let's not mention that and just move on...
 

MRBILLYUK

ClioSport Club Member
  FF Jeden Osiem Dwa
Also, my front pads (genuine Renault) don't fit with the anti squeal shims. Are the shims actually supposed to be there or did they come with the Brembo pads that were already on there?
The anti squeal shims are fitted as standard. Alot of people remove them but I always leave them in as they wouldn't have been fitted if they weren't needed. I usually just file a little bit off the pad backing plate so the pad moves freely. Job done.
 
So was it the sliders and you'd not lined up the peg on the pad with the slot in the piston?

Honestly the amount of people I have seen f**k up rear brakes on Clios is immense. So many spastics and quite a few on here so don't feel daft Steve, you're definitely not alone in spastic corner🤣🤣
 

Thrifty_Chicken

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 182
The anti squeal shims are fitted as standard. Alot of people remove them but I always leave them in as they wouldn't have been fitted if they weren't needed. I usually just file a little bit off the pad backing plate so the pad moves freely. Job done.
I ended up throwing the shims away, the OEM pads without shims had the same amount of play as the Brembos with shims, plus I thought grinding down GENUINE f**king RENAULT pads was a bit ridiculous... How the f**k do genuine parts not fit, I could understand aftermarket parts needing a little massaging but not bloody standard stuff 😂
So was it the sliders and you'd not lined up the peg on the pad with the slot in the piston?

Honestly the amount of people I have seen f**k up rear brakes on Clios is immense. So many spastics and quite a few on here so don't feel daft Steve, you're definitely not alone in spastic corner🤣🤣
Yeah it was the sliders, I found out while I was grasping the whole lot in frustration and felt it move. Felt like an absolute idiot as that's how my MX5 brakes work too!

On the plus side that's 3 out of 4 done now, going to have to ring KAM on Monday and find out where my other rear disc is 😂
 

banhama

ClioSport Club Member
Honestly the amount of people I have seen f**k up rear brakes on Clios is immense. So many spastics and quite a few on here so don't feel daft Steve, you're definitely not alone in spastic corner🤣🤣

Yeah, definitely don't feel daft, this is how my offside rear pads ended up during a race at Brands Hatch after my first attempt at changing them.
I didn't get the importance of the tie wire on that little bit of 'angle' that slots in under the pads, why the hell are they so complicated.
I do remember braking into Druids and thinking 'that's handling a bit strange, wonder if the tyres are going off' Knob!!!

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Thrifty_Chicken

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 182
Yeah, definitely don't feel daft, this is how my offside rear pads ended up during a race at Brands Hatch after my first attempt at changing them.
I didn't get the importance of the tie wire on that little bit of 'angle' that slots in under the pads, why the hell are they so complicated.
I do remember braking into Druids and thinking 'that's handling a bit strange, wonder if the tyres are going off' Knob!!!

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They were a pain in the arse but I'm very glad I persevered!
 

MRBILLYUK

ClioSport Club Member
  FF Jeden Osiem Dwa
Yeah, definitely don't feel daft, this is how my offside rear pads ended up during a race at Brands Hatch after my first attempt at changing them.
I didn't get the importance of the tie wire on that little bit of 'angle' that slots in under the pads, why the hell are they so complicated.
I do remember braking into Druids and thinking 'that's handling a bit strange, wonder if the tyres are going off' Knob!!!

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Ooops, lol
 


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