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Spec C 12.5@110 (345/355)
Ralphy, do you want to buy brand new?? You have the hassle of running them in and losing around £2k as soon as you drive out the garage. If i were you, id go for an ex-demonstrator or maybe a 172 with a few ks on the clock. With the money you save by doing this, is the money you have extra to do a few modifications with.
Why though? Cos it does 0.5 sec quicker to 60 or something crazy!! I could be wrong but i believe that the cup is lighter than the 172, same engine but it gets there that quicker because of its anorexic lol.
The cup doesnt have leather, climate control, xenons, abs etc.
Id always have the 172 over the cup, as i like my comforts
Quote: Originally posted by 172gal on 28 September 2003
Why though? Cos it does 0.5 sec quicker to 60 or something crazy!! I could be wrong but i believe that the cup is lighter than the 172, same engine but it gets there that quicker because of its anorexic lol.
The cup doesnt have leather, climate control, xenons, abs etc.
Id always have the 172 over the cup, as i like my comforts
suppose it all depends on what your after if you have to do miles to get to work etc the 172 is the choice but if most of your driving is for "fun" there is no comparison.
Focus ST3 + proper Mini
got my Mk2 172 from a renault dealer. No part ex. Got him down to £13k RRP is £14600.
Haggle with the finance rate as well. Mine started at 16.9% finished at 7% ( same as most high street banks)
ralphy, the official line is as follows, do you really want to believe the words of anyone who says that a renault (i.e. french) is a 100% UK car!!!. the cheapest place to buy a new sport 172 with ESP - if you order one now, you will probably get cruise control fitted is www.motorprovider.co.uk for 11850, full uk spec with 3 year full renault warrenty!! but no cat 1 alarm. all renaults are imports as they are built outside of the u.k., it all depends on what the official descrption of an import. people on this forum have bought imports from main dealers without knowing. the acide test seems to be where the car was first registered as stated on the VIN plate, my car from motor provider was first registered in sheffield england, so it is identical to a dealer car bar the alarm, which im going to fit anyway, so when I sell it, I will be selling it as if I bought it from a dealer. if there is another way of telling the difference I would be pleased to hear....
Audi TT Stronic
trust me .2-.3 of a second ISNT noticable.Quote: Originally posted by Ralphy_VTS on 29 September 2003
Thanks for all the replies people, very much appricated. I really dont know what to do! I just test drove a 172 Cup and loved it! But i want a 172 cos of the comforts. The saleman said its noticebly slower
FAO Ralphy_172
http://www.new-car-discount.comwww.new-car-discount.com sell 172s for £12500 OTR. Uk cars etc etc.
Get a 172 if comfort(equipment levels) and safety are priorities. If your priorities are cost and performance then it has to be a Cup. Plus the Cups come in the nicest colour. IMHO.
I went for a 172 cos having leather, climate, xenons, spare wheel, abs, traction, headlamp washers, etc etc is important to me, and I wasnt bothered about the extra cost.
Leah172mk2 paid £12,000 for a brand new 172, proper uk spec from Arnold Clark In Glasgow, dealer agreed to meet the price of a local import centre
Ill try an be unbiased as possible as I have a MKII172.
There are loads of threads on the merits of both cars and at the end of the day the abilities of the car is down to the driver. So .2 of second here and .5 of a second there can easily be made up or lost depending on ability of the driver.
Cups can have air con but that comes as an option. Not to sure about ABS, but its not included as standard on the Cups. Cups have nicer alloys, but on the roads with "real world" environments, its doubtful that anyone will notice or even take advantage of the 3mm lower stiffer suspension with extra castor angle. Many standard 172 are lowered on aftermarket springs and alloys which which makes the suspension changes more of a marketing ploy unless you plan to keep everything standard on the Cup. So after adding eibach sprints, OZ SuperL, Magnex Catback, Viper and an ecu remap of your choice, the only thing going for the Cup has on a 172 is perhaps a nicer shade of blue paint.
Ill try an be unbiased as possible as I have a MKII172.
There are loads of threads on the merits of both cars and at the end of the day the abilities of the car is down to the driver. So .2 of second here and .5 of a second there can easily be made up or lost depending on ability of the driver.
Cups can have air con but that comes as an option. Not to sure about ABS, but its not included as standard on the Cups. Cups have nicer alloys, but on the roads with "real world" environments, its doubtful that anyone will notice or even take advantage of the 3mm lower stiffer suspension with extra castor angle. Many standard 172 are lowered on aftermarket springs and alloys which which makes the suspension changes more of a marketing ploy unless you plan to keep everything standard on the Cup. So after adding eibach sprints, OZ SuperL, Magnex Catback, Viper and an ecu remap of your choice, the only thing going for the Cup has on a 172 is perhaps a nicer shade of blue paint.
Ill try an be unbiased as possible as I have a MKII172.
There are loads of threads on the merits of both cars and at the end of the day the abilities of the car is down to the driver. So .2 of second here and .5 of a second there can easily be made up or lost depending on ability of the driver.
Cups can have air con but that comes as an option. Not to sure about ABS, but its not included as standard on the Cups. Cups have nicer alloys, but on the roads with "real world" environments, its doubtful that anyone will notice or even take advantage of the 3mm lower stiffer suspension with extra castor angle. Many standard 172 are lowered on aftermarket springs and alloys which which makes the suspension changes more of a marketing ploy unless you plan to keep everything standard on the Cup. So after adding eibach sprints, OZ SuperL, Magnex Catback, Viper and an ecu remap of your choice, the only thing going for the Cup has on a 172 is perhaps a nicer shade of blue paint.
The Cup is great if you compare standard with standard, but then how many 172s and Cups are completely standard, if not now in the future?
