I want a Black Mirror!!

[timmmah]

I want my Black Gold Clio to be so polished that its like a mirror.

Got nothing much to do this bank holiday weekend, so was wondering what i'll need to achieve the results?

 

[Brand86]

A PC or orbital polisher... a range of polishes such as Menzerna or Poorboys...some buffing pads...shampoo...buckets...drying towels....microfibre towels...clay...finishing polish such as AG SRP....a glaze and/ or sealant and/or decent wax... and a whole lot of skill, effort and good old fashioned elbow grease.

Will probably take a lot longer than a weekend to get the results you want especially on a black car, think of it as an ongoing project you never ever complete. Oh, and prepare to find a gaping hole in your wallet too!

 

[Rich]

The Last Process I used on my 182.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2993394#post2993394

PAINTWORK

Machine Polished by Porter Cable mainly with Menzerna Final Finish PO106FA and a Sonus SFX White Polishing Pad, followed by Menzerna Final Finish PO85RD on a Sonus SFX Blue Finishing Pad. Some areas such as the bonnet needed some more attention so Menzerna Intensive Polish (PO85RD 3.01) was used on a Menzerna Polishing Pad first. The car was then Glazed by machine using a Black LC Pad and Clearkote Vanilla/Red Machine Glaze mix. This process alone did not remove some of the deeper marks in the paint.

Full Sized pads where used on the Bonnet, Doors, Roof and Quarters. Spot 4 inch pads for the Rear Spoiler, Tailgate, Front Wings, Lower Doors & Quarters and Front and Rear Valences.

Paintwork prepared for wax with Swissvax Cleaner Fluid by hand to the whole car. As the car was polished in parts and not one hit, Swissvax Onyx was applied to the panels as they where finished. Over the next few weeks the car was then waxed with Zymol Concours, Swissvax Best of Show, and thanks to Brazo the final coat of Wax was Zymol Destiny which the car was wearing for the show. Final Wipe down with GG Synthetic Quick Detailer.

 

[Rich]

May also be worth a read, last time I got a chance to spend a few days on the car in one hit:

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=209380

 

[Brand86]

If you go onto Polished Bliss there are some really good guides on there too actually.

 

[Gareth]

plenty of elbow grease!!

 

[N!CK R]

plenty of elbow grease!!

That is the shiniest car i have ever seen!

Thats some hard work gone into that

 

[timmmah]

Thanks Rich for the great guide, I presume you have purchased all those cleaning products over time.

For me to go out and buy them probably cost a fair bit.

 

[Rich]

Yes a few years of collecting!

 

[NJ.]

plenty of elbow grease!!

blooming heck!
camoflaged megane

 

[V1NNY]

plenty of elbow grease!!

That is the shiniest car i have ever seen!

Thats some hard work gone into that

come on Rich post your mirror pics lol

 

[RichRSi]

I've got to admit that megan looks like it's wearing the invisibility suit from the Predator.

 

[jayxx83]

Megane is mint, absolutely gorgeous

 

[MOFO]

anymore gareth? looks the mutts

 

[Gareth]

a few more

 

[Don]

The Last Process I used on my 182.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2993394#post2993394

PAINTWORK

Machine Polished by Porter Cable mainly with Menzerna Final Finish PO106FA and a Sonus SFX White Polishing Pad, followed by Menzerna Final Finish PO85RD on a Sonus SFX Blue Finishing Pad. Some areas such as the bonnet needed some more attention so Menzerna Intensive Polish (PO85RD 3.01) was used on a Menzerna Polishing Pad first. The car was then Glazed by machine using a Black LC Pad and Clearkote Vanilla/Red Machine Glaze mix. This process alone did not remove some of the deeper marks in the paint.

Full Sized pads where used on the Bonnet, Doors, Roof and Quarters. Spot 4 inch pads for the Rear Spoiler, Tailgate, Front Wings, Lower Doors & Quarters and Front and Rear Valences.

Paintwork prepared for wax with Swissvax Cleaner Fluid by hand to the whole car. As the car was polished in parts and not one hit, Swissvax Onyx was applied to the panels as they where finished. Over the next few weeks the car was then waxed with Zymol Concours, Swissvax Best of Show, and thanks to Brazo the final coat of Wax was Zymol Destiny which the car was wearing for the show. Final Wipe down with GG Synthetic Quick Detailer.

Rich, you amateur...you know that you should just use Tesco Value Car Shampoo!

 

[RichRSi]

What products are you using Gareth?

 

[Tigger]

plenty of elbow grease!!

Thats not black, it's almost camoflage!
Awesome shine!

 

[Gareth]

What products are you using Gareth?

a range of things. Megs Gold Class, Zymol, Poorboys Chemical Wash, P21s, Swissvax Onyx and the usual AG SRP, EGP, the car was last done (as pictured) with Dodo Juice Purple Haze.

 

[darren_rallye]

Another vote for P21s. I tried it this week and was impressed in it's finish and modest price tag comared to others out there.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/darrenmayne/Black S2/shineyblack106rallye.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/darrenmayne/Black S2/black106rallye.jpg

 

[Rich]

What products are you using Gareth?

a range of things. Megs Gold Class, Zymol, Poorboys Chemical Wash, P21s, Swissvax Onyx and the usual AG SRP, EGP, the car was last done (as pictured) with Dodo Juice Purple Haze.

How did you find the Dodo Purple compared to the Onyx Gareth ?

 

[Gareth]

the Swissvax is easier to apply, the Dodo Juice hardens quickly and needs to be worked on and off fairly quickly. I found they both gave the same results, although I think I prefer the Swissvax slightly.

 

[Mike-bham]

This took me about 2 days when I did it a couple of years ago, on my old car. Didnt use a Pc polisher, just T cut, then polished, and waxed:

Any tips on cleaning between the RENAULT SPORT, and Clio badges on the back though? I find it difficult to get rid of the grubby shadow in them.

 

[Marky_]

That meggy is stunning Gareth

 

[Rich]

the Swissvax is easier to apply, the Dodo Juice hardens quickly and needs to be worked on and off fairly quickly. I found they both gave the same results, although I think I prefer the Swissvax slightly.

Cheers - Does the Dodo look as good as it does when first applied after a wash like the Onyx does ?

 

[Rich]

Any tips on cleaning between the RENAULT SPORT, and Clio badges on the back though? I find it difficult to get rid of the grubby shadow in them.

Cotton buds and quick detail spray.

 

[Rich]

come on Rich post your mirror pics lol

Quick snap of mine today mid polish, will post some when it is finished and the wax added tommorrow. Shame about the orange peel paint finsih.

 

[theduck]

my gf just thought your car was chrome finish when I showed her the first pic...

 

[Travis CC]

I want a black car next, but the upkeep on the shine is gonna be insane I know, ah well it's a mean colour on the clio's and I'm sure it'll be worth it!

 

[TeZ]

Rich sell up and get a Car with Good paintwork then we will see the results. Stuff this orange peel shite.

 

[Brand86]

Looking good so far, but agree about the orange peel gheyness. Think it limits what is achievable on a Clio.

Porsches have the best paint IMO.

 

[Gareth]

the Swissvax is easier to apply, the Dodo Juice hardens quickly and needs to be worked on and off fairly quickly. I found they both gave the same results, although I think I prefer the Swissvax slightly.

Cheers - Does the Dodo look as good as it does when first applied after a wash like the Onyx does ?

I don't know yet Rich, the car hasn't been washed since.

 

[Rich]

Cheers - Does the Dodo look as good as it does when first applied after a wash like the Onyx does ?

I don't know yet Rich, the car hasn't been washed since.

Be good to know what you think when you do, that is the deciding factor into me buying some. The likes of CG 50/50 and Pinnacle Souveran look great until you wash them then they lose that edge and need another coat. Onyx is the only budget wax I have found so far to buck that trend.

Looking good so far, but agree about the orange peel gheyness. Think it limits what is achievable on a Clio.

Porsches have the best paint IMO.

I could always wet sand it lol

Given up for the day, could not do the roof due to no shade!

 

[Ali]

All you need to do is buy a can of yellow paint for your garage, paint it that colour and the reflection will be amazing against the black gold!!

 

[Brand86]

Looking good so far, but agree about the orange peel gheyness. Think it limits what is achievable on a Clio.

Porsches have the best paint IMO.

I could always wet sand it lol

Given up for the day, could not do the roof due to no shade![/quote]

I have always wondered what a CS might look like with a better quality paint... that would be the ultimate in analness getting that done... but the black Porsche uses is amazing, much better definition to the paint and naturally has a "glassier" liquid look to the paint.

Renault paint isn't all that really as I'm, sure you know from working on other makes...

 

[Rich]

I am just glad I have always owned french tat so the paint does not bother me that much !

 

[Brand86]

Well, as far as French tat goes yours is a pretty tidy example I guess mate...

 

[lusty v-tec]

plenty of elbow grease!!

I actually gasped when I saw that!! :star:

 

[Gaz_]

he saw the male in its reflection

 

[Gaz_]

come on Rich post your mirror pics lol

Quick snap of mine today mid polish, will post some when it is finished and the wax added tommorrow. Shame about the orange peel paint finsih.

I need to try harder after looking at that lol. These were my eforts

Re comments on the CG finish after a wash..... i find i need to zip over mine after EVERY wash as the finish dulls (petes 53) The onyx better for this then?