If you had the choice...

[tommyboy]

Reeeeeeeeet,

As I don't currently own an RS Clio Im going to be looking to get one early next year at long last... however there is a problem...:S

How on earth am I meant to decide between =

1. 172 Cup
2. 182 Full Fat
3. Trophy (at a heftier price though)
4. V6 (if I suddenly win a nice cash sum)

I like the idea of the fully loaded full fat, but like the more 'race' appeal sported by both the 172 Cup and the 182 Trophy. The V6 is more of a dream at the mo, Im 21 next year also so insurance would be rapeage :dapprove: .

What would you go for???

Cheers, Tom

 

[edde]

Drive them all and see which you like.

Mk1 172 personally better throttle pedal less complex computers better driving car cheaper tyres only negatves are lower safety record there older and the design I'm not keen on style inside and out wise.

If you want a phase 2 I'd gte a 172 full fat Cup might be a handful if your not willing to be careful the amount that get written off is shocking by drivers who think there young and can hande no ABS and drive it like a modern car with ABS.

 

[Plattsy]

172 cup is meant to be quickest iirc... obv not inc the vee.
ever thought of a mk1

 

[tommyboy]

If you want a phase 2 I'd gte a 172 full fat Cup might be a handful if your not willing to be careful the amount that get written off is shocking by drivers who think there young and can hande no ABS and drive it like a modern car with ABS.

I'd rather have the ABS there just to put my mind at rest tbh.

 

[tommyboy]

172 cup is meant to be quickest iirc... obv not inc the vee.
ever thought of a mk1

yeah the Cup is raved on here as being quickest... just :race:

Nope, not thinking of Mk1's, going for modern... has to be Mk2. Not even considering the 197... :dead:

 

[edde]

Cups are quickest at crashing.

 

[GarethM]

id have a mk1 172 even though its not on the list
other than that id have a trophy of the list

 

[tommyboy]

id have a mk1 172 even though its not on the list
other than that id have a trophy of the list

Why a trophy over a 182 full fat? What are the main differences like chassis, suspension etc...

 

[Leeshez]

Get the one with the least amount of faults.

 

[Steve2004]

Mk1 172

only negatves are lower safety record

I think in 2000 the clio got revamped (in terms of safety) and went from a 2 star to a 4 star NCAP rating.

So ph1 172s are just as safe (according to NCAP (4 stars)) as the phase 2s.

 

[tommyboy]

Get the one with the least amount of faults.

I've had a mk2 1.2 16v had a few niggles to start with but was a super lil car after they we're sorted.

I think it's going to be between a 182 FF and a Trophy... :sleepy:

 

[Plattsy]

id get the trophy over the 182.... bit more unique, only so many made... although i dont think theres a big difference between the trophy and 182 apart from trophys are numbered

 

[Scutch]

Spend and Trophy

Or get a mint Williams

 

[RacerStu]

I would go for either a Mk1 172 or a Trophy if it was me.

 

[speedynz]

Don't analyse it to death as there's not a bad car among them.

In simple terms the Trophy is best (the suspension is extraordinary), the MK1 is purest and everything else is in between.

They all go like the clappers and most of them fall to bits.

Hope this helps!

 

[Brasseye]

over all I like the 172 ff

for price/peformance

hope you dont mind a few rattles though !!

 

[sh33n]

I'd get the Cup, spend a few quid on some simple mods, the usual stuff (inc seats) and you'd have a damn fine quick car for much less money than the Trophy, plus you won't look like a postie in it

 

[Steve]

id get the trophy over the 182.... bit more unique, only so many made... although i dont think theres a big difference between the trophy and 182 apart from trophys are numbered

You really need to drive one, then report back.

 

[TheCake]

Personally... I'd buy a Mk1 172 and fit the facelift Mk2 172/182 interior.

 

[tommyboy]

over all I like the 172 ff

for price/peformance

hope you dont mind a few rattles though !!

I've had a mk2 1.2 16v already so am used to the rattles etc.. all part of the fun lol. Im going to have to go get me some test drives!! yay

 

[Cue]

172 cup is meant to be quickest iirc... obv not inc the vee.
ever thought of a mk1

yeah the Cup is raved on here as being quickest... just :race:

Nope, not thinking of Mk1's, going for modern... has to be Mk2. Not even considering the 197... :dead:

Trophy everytime mate, drive all of them.... down to personal preference but anyone who has driven one will say Trophy. The cost of just the recaro's and front suspension are something like £4k, sum of it's part are worth it.

Main differences are the trophy has remote shocks (£3k for the front 2), Recaro's (you can get this as an option though on the FF), red colour, V6 Spoiler, Grey turini's, Ebach Springs, IT sits slightly lower than the FF also.

The FF has some stuff the Trophy doesn't - CLimate control instead of Air con etc.
As I say though, drive 'em then see for yourself. Most people don't and just go on theory.

 

[DebV6]

I'd have the ff 182, hence why I bought one, I wanted racing blue and all the toys. Only thing I wish I could have had is recaros. Obviously if I had the cash though, I would have had the v6!

 

[tommyboy]

yeah the Cup is raved on here as being quickest... just :race:

Nope, not thinking of Mk1's, going for modern... has to be Mk2. Not even considering the 197... :dead:

Trophy everytime mate, drive all of them.... down to personal preference but anyone who has driven one will say Trophy. The cost of just the recaro's and front suspension are something like £4k, sum of it's part are worth it.

Main differences are the trophy has remote shocks (£3k for the front 2), Recaro's (you can get this as an option though on the FF), red colour, V6 Spoiler, Grey turini's, Ebach Springs, IT sits slightly lower than the FF also.

The FF has some stuff the Trophy doesn't - CLimate control instead of Air con etc.
As I say though, drive 'em then see for yourself. Most people don't and just go on theory.

thanks for the info there, I'd love Recaro's so the trophy is winning brownie points... I'll get down to Reno soon, try get a test drive in an RS of some sort lol!

 

[tommyboy]

I'd have the ff 182, hence why I bought one, I wanted racing blue and all the toys. Only thing I wish I could have had is recaros. Obviously if I had the cash though, I would have had the v6!

chances are I won't quite have enough dosh to get the vee, still going to get a test drive or 2 tho

 

[Spiezels]

thing is with ABS u may thnk i wil be fine without it as few ppl here have been but wen ure skidding towards something, are u gona have enuf time and be calm enuf to take ure foot of brake and reply with less pressure etc, wen i had my first bump few weeks ago tht never came into my mind,

 

[Shaunbrass]

There isnt much difference in all of them really mate, its all about how much u want to spend (except the vee)

I love my car and its fair fast and didnt cost the earth, i would of prefered a trophy but there was no way i could jusify the cost difference between the 2.

182 cup, again the difference wasnt worth spending the extra money really imo.

Its up 2 you and how much cash you got, drive a few and see what ya think

 

[Rage182]

imo if you can afford one go for a 182FF as they have the most refinements and are still quick or a trophy as they are limited run and still well spec'd. yeah the cup is quicker but you don't always go Mach 5 every day, i'd rather have climate control, leather etc, than go 0.5 sec fast on a 0-60.

 

[Saner]

Don't forget that teh Trophy has a different Suspension set up to all teh others.

From the list, i'd buy teh Trophy, Personally, i'd have a ph1 172.

and when are we going to meet up! I'm still waiting here boyo!

 

[TheJesus]

I'd get a Williams, better than all the above imo.

 

[edde]

Mk1 172

only negatves are lower safety record

I think in 2000 the clio got revamped (in terms of safety) and went from a 2 star to a 4 star NCAP rating.

So ph1 172s are just as safe (according to NCAP (4 stars)) as the phase 2s.

Its still missing some airbags and the shell on the phase 2 is stronger.

In simple terms the Trophy is best (the suspension is extraordinary), the MK1 is purest and everything else is in between.

Thats disputable I could't live with one IMo there to hard suspension setups and the seats arn't suited to everyone.

I'd get a Williams, better than all the above imo.

Agreed.

 

[tommyboy]

thing is with ABS u may thnk i wil be fine without it as few ppl here have been but wen ure skidding towards something, are u gona have enuf time and be calm enuf to take ure foot of brake and reply with less pressure etc, wen i had my first bump few weeks ago tht never came into my mind,

exactly, Im leaning towards the trophy and 182 FFs very much, got plenty of time just wanted to know what others would do.

 

[tommyboy]

There isnt much difference in all of them really mate, its all about how much u want to spend (except the vee)

I love my car and its fair fast and didnt cost the earth, i would of prefered a trophy but there was no way i could jusify the cost difference between the 2.

182 cup, again the difference wasnt worth spending the extra money really imo.

Its up 2 you and how much cash you got, drive a few and see what ya think

Good comment, very true, I'll test drive a 172 cup, 182 FF and a Trophy to decide it I think

 

[tommyboy]

imo if you can afford one go for a 182FF as they have the most refinements and are still quick or a trophy as they are limited run and still well spec'd. yeah the cup is quicker but you don't always go Mach 5 every day, i'd rather have climate control, leather etc, than go 0.5 sec fast on a 0-60.

True with the leather comment, would be nice as would climate instead of just air con. Plush yet still fast.

 

[tommyboy]

Don't forget that teh Trophy has a different Suspension set up to all teh others.

From the list, i'd buy teh Trophy, Personally, i'd have a ph1 172.

and when are we going to meet up! I'm still waiting here boyo!

Yeah I know about the suspension on the Trophy being very different to the others, Im thinking I will either love it or hate it.

Oh yea, well Im leaving uni mate from Portsmouth going back home decided to leave my course, it's not for me. So will be back home in Kent, Bromley if you know it? I am going home tomorrow.

 

[tommyboy]

I'd get a Williams, better than all the above imo.

What reasons have you got though?

 

[Peperami]

Spend the extra and get a 182 ff unless you plan on doing lots of track days mate.

Feel far more refined, and like a lot more car for your money.

On the road they're no slower than a cup.

 

[CJ]

Which airbags are the Ph1 172's missing? Didn't know this.

 

[John D]

Spend the extra and get a 182 ff unless you plan on doing lots of track days mate.

Feel far more refined, and like a lot more car for your money.

On the road they're no slower than a cup.

Traitor

 

[tommyboy]

Spend the extra and get a 182 ff unless you plan on doing lots of track days mate.

Feel far more refined, and like a lot more car for your money.

On the road they're no slower than a cup.

I was planning on getting onto the track with whatever I buy, but probably not a regular thing. Cheers for the comment.

 

[pecan]

Go for Turinis! Whichever car you pick you'll be happy.