Induction Kit's - What's the point?

[Seb_cup 172]

Who beleives the standard airbox for the 172/182's is perfectly adequate? I myself think these £250+ IK's are a complete waste of good money. The standard RS airbox is good enough until modding your car vast amounts that you are forced to change the airbox cos you need a quicker and cooler airflow.

Opinions please...

 

[Neil G]

Have to agree with you.

I think until your tuning your car to a very high level they are more for cosmetic/sound improvements.....as with most engine mods as well, you only get the most from them if you have the car properly mapped anyway.

 

[Gary G]

Its fun and they sound nice.

 

[CrazyK]

Good old panel filter £35, Gives a little better throttle response and a slightly crisper sound. I wouldn't spend that much on an induction kit, Buy a decat you will get more of a gain from that.

 

[EVOgone]

You could just de-couple the air feed hose and you get the noise.

 

[rmccardal]

Depends on your long term plans for the engine I guess. The maxogen is a well designed airbox, I wouldnt have any of the other ones (viper/bmc)

Not sure about the newer ones on the market v power / green twister etc.

 

[Lagerlout]

I fail to see what is so great about the standard airbox. It's crap black plastic that saturates with heat, it's got restricted cold air feed to reduce noise and one of the air feeds goes no further than most open/semi enclosed kits.

As i understand it ( well not strictly understand lol) the way in which the air enters the inlet also affects performance. I can't imagine that the shape of the stock airbox is condusicve to good flow.

I got and IK for mine as - It flows better. It sounds better. It looks better. Simple. You pays your money you takes your choice.

 

[RichMcc]

Its all down to personal preference and how much faith you have in the manufacturers product.

You dont have to buy an inductoin kit, you could even make your own.
Renault obviously spent "some" time designing the air box but they would have had different goals to a so called performance products.

Renault probably worked out how much air it needs, considered noise levels and built the standard kit around that.

A performance kit is designed to get the max air flow, keep out the heat, improve response, look great and sound like a two bit hooker sucking a thick shake...

 

[thedoc]

for me throttle response was better with aftermarket filter in original airbox than viper.. IMO.

 

[Ali]

Coz they look better, sound better, and if set up properly with give you an increse in Power.

 

[Dash]

Would having more than one be any better?

 

[Alan]

Indeed AJR ^^

James, on things like supra's and skylines which have twin turbo's this is possible but not on a clio i don't think?

Though if you don't want to spend £200+ on an induction kit, just go for the ITG panel filter to drop into the standard airbox, won't gain any power but it will give better filtration than the standard element does.

Around £40 from www.motorsportworld.co.uk

 

[Neil G]

I fail to see what is so great about the standard airbox. It's crap black plastic that saturates with heat, it's got restricted cold air feed to reduce noise and one of the air feeds goes no further than most open/semi enclosed kits.

As i understand it ( well not strictly understand lol) the way in which the air enters the inlet also affects performance. I can't imagine that the shape of the stock airbox is condusicve to good flow.

I got and IK for mine as - It flows better. It sounds better. It looks better. Simple. You pays your money you takes your choice.

I'm sure Renault spend some time and money developing the intake system so it works well.....I don't want to spend £200 on some foam, polished alloy and some glorified tumble-drier hose just to find out it wrecks the cars driveability.

 

[CrazyK]

I fail to see what is so great about the standard airbox. It's crap black plastic that saturates with heat, it's got restricted cold air feed to reduce noise and one of the air feeds goes no further than most open/semi enclosed kits.

As i understand it ( well not strictly understand lol) the way in which the air enters the inlet also affects performance. I can't imagine that the shape of the stock airbox is condusicve to good flow.

I got and IK for mine as - It flows better. It sounds better. It looks better. Simple. You pays your money you takes your choice.

You say that you fail to see what is so great about the std air box but what is so good about a £250 Ik , Ok so the std airbox restrictive to airflow, holds too much heat, doesn't seem to have a fantastic cold air feed and doesn't sound like dyson with a partial blockage, But these £250 I/K's aren't noticable out performing the std box with a £35 high flow filter. The crappy plastic box which I fully agree looks shite but I like to drive my car rather than point at shiney bits in the engine (it a pretty shite looking engine bay anyway), Im also not a fan of loud modern cars maybe thats because I drive a lot of motorway miles and that incessant monotone drone of an I/K Exhaust combo gives me a headache.

I know it will be different strokes for different folks but I can think of better thing to spunk £250 on

 

[Neil G]

Agree with you

I actually like the engine bay looking std and couldn' care about noise.

I may however wrap the OE box in some heat resistant mat

 

[BenR]

Indeed AJR ^^

James, on things like supra's and skylines which have twin turbo's this is possible but not on a clio i don't think?

Though if you don't want to spend £200+ on an induction kit, just go for the ITG panel filter to drop into the standard airbox, won't gain any power but it will give better filtration than the standard element does.

Around £40 from www.motorsportworld.co.uk

Incorrect, nothing, and i mean nothing, filters aswell as paper elements.....that is why they get dirty so fast.

 

[Alan]

I stand corrected

 

[BenR]

no biggie lol.

i like paper, and so do sand racers lol, they only make the mistake of running cotton or gauze once.

 

[CrazyK]

ITs a trade off between filtration and air flow,

The paper filters a restrictive because of their filtering qualitys and cotton /gauge allow more air through but also more crap, fortunatley there isn't much sand on the roads lol

 

[Lagerlout]

I'm sure Renault spend some time and money developing the intake system so it works well.....I don't want to spend £200 on some foam, polished alloy and some glorified tumble-drier hose just to find out it wrecks the cars driveability.

Neither do I. That's why I spent £300 on one of these. lol.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/lagerlout1/P1010250.jpg

It's horses for courses. If I had no intentions of modding my car further I wouldn't have bothered with an IK. But I am, and feel that coupled with cams, inlet manifold and ECU an decent IK can be beneficial.

 

[CrazyK]

Yeah I think you would notice it more if you had the mods listed and switched from a std airbox to an I/K. Rather than comparing the 2 types of induction on a std engine

 

[7MAT]

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[theduck]

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i totally agree... :S lol

for me, induction kits sound good and improve throttle response.

 

[nelson182]

Each to there own. I love the sound an IK makes, but also agree it has the best potential to be used with other mods to the car.

 

[GordonD]

I've got the dyno figures that show changing the induction system does nothing but increase the noise level.

I had the car dynoed, a Pipercross Viper fitted, then the car re-dynoed on the same dyno on the same day by the same operator. Yes there were small variations at different speeds, but nothing significant.

 

[Tigger]

How does the IK compare with a panel filter on the dci ?

 

[jonnyjogpants]

i have a 1.2 16v is it worth putting one on for the noise i like, and what the best for me car