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Insurance and tints:(





well having spent two days on the phone to insurance companies I have come to the conclusion that the tints have to go.

Not one single insurance company will insure you with front window tints.

So its booked in to have the front two removed on tuesday, so Ill soon have a van type clio!

Anyone else had to remove theirs yet, police are clamping down all over too!
 
  BMW M3 - For Sale!


a copper told me the other week that u can have light tints on the front sides as longs as you dont put anything on the windscreen
 
  Mondeo STTDCI


Adrian Flux insured me last year, HIC insured me this year with light smoke tint all round.
 


Yeah I thought you could have light tint on the front sides, nothing on the front and whatever you want on the rears.

That right??!
 
  BMW 118d


Picked up a leaflet about this at the motorshow. Here goes;

Motor vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1985
The light transmitted through the windsreen must be at least 75%. The front side windows must allow at least 70% of the light to be transmitted through them.

There is a section bout cars older than this but i guess it doesntt apply to many (if any) people on here

Matt
 
  Not a Clio


http://www.pentagonglasstech.com/news_legal_update.asphttp://www.pentagonglasstech.com/news_legal_update.asp

Quote taken from pentagon glass website:

"

Window Tinting - Amendments to Legislation

During the early part of 2004, Section 32 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations will be amended to include “Window Tint Films”, where such materials attached to the glass are capable of reducing the Visible Light Transmission of forward windows to below prescribed levels. These changes will be back-dated to become applicable from 1st January 2004.

This will effectively ban virtually all tinted films fitted to windows forward of the B-Post on any vehicle that is to be driven on UK roads.

The reason for these changes is the recent proliferation of vehicles that are excessively tinted. Some vehicles may be so heavily tinted that they present a real danger when used on public roads. The action being taken by the Government follows a fatality that occurred recently where a heavily tinted car was involved in a collision with a motorcycle and the window tints were held to blame due to the vision of the driver being impaired.

There is however, a recognised difference between “light window tints” which may be considered safe for road use (such as those supplied to you by Pentagon) and “excessively dark window tints” which are not.

There has also been a great deal of debate in recent years about the legitimacy of window tints that do not obscure the vision of the driver. A clear case has been argued that road-safe window tints do not actually conflict with existing regulations. The Department for Transport have argued however that Section 32 was always intended to cover materials attached to the glass, despite the fact that no mention of this is made in the Regulation itself.

The only solution remaining would be to amend the Legislation.

Consequently and in order to clarify the situation, the Government have finally decided to up-date the Regulations to specifically include Tinted Films since, in the view of the Police and the Department for Transport, this is the only way in which the problems of excessive tints can be remedied.

Unfortunately however, even tint films that may be considered to be safe for road use will now be viewed as in conflict with the Regulations, enabling the Police and Vehicle Inspectorate to take action against vehicle owners.

This has significant implications for the owners of vehicles that have window tints already fitted and also those that are responsible for installing or selling window tints.

Implications for the vehicle owner

After much discussion, a sympathetic Enforcement Policy has been agreed between the Department for Transport and The Glass and Glazing Federation to ensure that all vehicle owners that have had tints applied in the past may be dealt with fairly. This applies in particular where the infringement is with respect to tints that do not pose a significant threat to Road Safety, despite being in contravention with the amended Regulations.

In any event, after the date of the amendment to Section 32, the owner of a vehicle that has window tints applied forward of the B-Post could be challenged by either a Police Officer or by an Inspector from the Department for Transport’s Vehicle Inspectorate, where their vehicle is noticed being driven on Public Roads.

Where such a vehicle is stopped and the window tints applied are such that the Visible Light Transmission level, when measured using an approved device falls to below prescribed levels, the following enforcement guidelines have been agreed with, and recommended, by the Government.

Above 30% Visible Light Transmission (Less Severe Window Tints)

The owner or driver of such a vehicle would be required to have the tinted film removed from the windows under the direction of either a Rectification Notice or a Delayed Prohibition Notice. A period of grace will apply for a limited number of days (normally ten) during which time the vehicle may be driven whilst the rectification work is to be completed.

In either case, the vehicle will need to be inspected by either a Police Officer or Vehicle Inspectorate Officer to confirm that the glass has been restored to a compliant condition. Prosecution is unlikely in such circumstances provided the vehicle owner complies fully.

Action that needs to be taken

All Businesses that have supplied window tints forward of the B-Post are being encouraged by the Government and the Glass and Glazing Federation to contact all of their previous customers to inform them of the changes to Legislation and to offer them a chance to have their vehicle rectified by having the front tints removed.

As one of our existing customers, this is a service that we are happy to offer to you free of charge. It is also something that we can do for you while you wait to minimise any inconvenience.

Should you wish, we can instead apply Clear SupaGlass once the tints have been removed, for a small charge, and full details are available on request. Please note that in order to apply SupaGlass to the two forward windows we will need to retain your vehicle for a longer period, depending on the model.

New compliant SupaGlass and Tints Package

Pentagon Glass Tech’s new SupaGlass and Tints Package will be compliant with the new Regulations.

This will include Clear (untinted) SupaGlass forward of the B-Post and either Tints or Tinted SupaGlass to the rear of the vehicle which will be acceptable under the amended legislation."

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You can tint front side windows up to 30%, but Clio windows (new ones anyway) are already factory tinted to the limit so you cant add anymore tint legally!

Think thats right anyway!
 


The owner or driver of such a vehicle would be required to have the tinted film removed from the windows under the direction of either a Rectification Notice or a Delayed Prohibition Notice. A period of grace will apply for a limited number of days (normally ten) during which time the vehicle may be driven whilst the rectification work is to be completed.
 
  E55, KitCar & '85 Quattro


well i always thought they were ok???

my mates got 30% on the front on his clio and 70% on the back windows.

obviously the windscreen isnt tinted but i can understand y thats totally illegal!

wot about those lincon navigators/ escalades and some piccasos and people carriers... dont they come with tints all round neway??
 
  E55, KitCar & '85 Quattro


hmmm

but can the window tinting places do it so that its legal in conjunction with wot u have already

ie if 30% is legal for the front and the clio has say 15%, can they do it just 15% to stay ok?
 
  Not a Clio


Quote: Originally posted by braddersbrad on 13 June 2004


Quote: Originally posted by _simon_ on 13 June 2004


http://www.pentagonglasstech.com/news_legal_update.asphttp://www.pentagonglasstech.com/news_legal_update.asp

Quote taken from pentagon glass website:
can sum1 put that into dumb terms for me? r they legal on the front side windows or not?



Quote: "

Unfortunately however, even tint films that may be considered to be safe for road use will now be viewed as in conflict with the Regulations, enabling the Police and Vehicle Inspectorate to take action against vehicle owners.

This has significant implications for the owners of vehicles that have window tints already fitted and also those that are responsible for installing or selling window tints."
 
  BMW M3 - For Sale!


Quote: Originally posted by _simon_ on 13 June 2004


Quote: Originally posted by braddersbrad on 13 June 2004


Quote: Originally posted by _simon_ on 13 June 2004


http://www.pentagonglasstech.com/news_legal_update.asphttp://www.pentagonglasstech.com/news_legal_update.asp

Quote taken from pentagon glass website:
can sum1 put that into dumb terms for me? r they legal on the front side windows or not?




Quote: "

Unfortunately however, even tint films that may be considered to be safe for road use will now be viewed as in conflict with the Regulations, enabling the Police and Vehicle Inspectorate to take action against vehicle owners.

This has significant implications for the owners of vehicles that have window tints already fitted and also those that are responsible for installing or selling window tints."
so thats a no? :confused:
 


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