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Yeah, it's not called the iMediaDevice is it.
must have missed those stand out posts...
of course it's factually incorrect ffs - i was being facetious :dead:
iPod touch with call facility?
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
Mine is going back ASAP I think, I flat out cannot get 3G signal in my house anymore and no matter how good my 3g signal is, the maps seems to load slower the my old Sega Megadrive.
As much as I love apple, the whole signal debacle and their attitude is a bit of a disappointment, in answer to Tom's post about crashing a car into a wall etc, I could understand your point if you lost signal by covering the heaphone port with your left testical, but the fact is you actually have the conscious of how you hold the thing natrually, which IMO, is wrong.
As much as I love apple, the whole signal debacle and their attitude is a bit of a disappointment, in answer to Tom's post about crashing a car into a wall etc, I could understand your point if you lost signal by covering the heaphone port with your left testical, but the fact is you actually have the conscious of how you hold the thing natrually, which IMO, is wrong.
bad analogy Tom, if you were driving your car and you couldn't touch the wheel when you were accelerating, but you could if you put a cover on your wheel (i know you are a bit partial to having a steering wheel cover after your nice video
) then thats a design flaw.for most people, who are going to use a case, its clearly not going to be an issue, its just a shame apple aren't going to fix it, even if that does just mean supplying something which cost them £1 to make with a £600 phone, but that ofcourse would be admitting theres an issue, which is where the issue lies and why people are getting upset i guess.
it's certainly made me think twice whether to upgrade the 3gs when the white is finally released (they can't even really modify that either now because if they did it would be again admitting theres an issue and they would have to do something for all the black version owners etc.), and i love apple products, i honestly don't know what to do.
I would definitely have a bumper on it, so i guess for me, it wouldn't be an issue.
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
bad analogy Tom, if you were driving your car and you couldn't touch the wheel when you were accelerating, but you could if you put a cover on your wheel (i know you are a bit partial to having a steering wheel cover after your nice video
for most people, who are going to use a case, its clearly not going to be an issue, its just a shame apple aren't going to fix it, even if that does just mean supplying something which cost them £1 to make with a £600 phone, but that ofcourse would be admitting theres an issue, which is where the issue lies and why people are getting upset i guess.
it's certainly made me think twice whether to upgrade the 3gs when the white is finally released (they can't even really modify that either now because if they did it would be again admitting theres an issue and they would have to do something for all the black version owners etc.), and i love apple products, i honestly don't know what to do.
I would definitely have a bumper on it, so i guess for me, it wouldn't be an issue.
My issue with the bumper is that iPhones are pretty, its part of the sell, quite a big part imo, and why should I have to cover up my lovely looking device just so it functions properly?
I'd be pretty upset if I bought a 'rari but then had to cover in in a big big black bumper-car style ring so that it performed properly.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Jony Ive doesn't care if it works properly. As long as it's beautiful.
That said, I've not had any issues with mine at all.
That said, I've not had any issues with mine at all.
lol at all the s**t being posted in here.
If it was an issue with the actual phone itself then surely every single iphone 4 would suffer from it?
Then why the hell does mine have no issues what so ever, with or without the bumper attached it will not loose signal. I've taken the bumpber off and held evey single part of the phone and it's not dropped once.
Also why are there 3G and 3GS suffering from it since updating to iOS4?
Everyone is spinning out of control over this simple issue and making out like it's a world ending problem.
The link posted earlier with the supposed note out to apple staff with what thier responses should be is simple business process. If there is an issue thats being spread around the media then thier staff are going to be questioned on it so they need to know what thier response should be. Just because this exists doesn't mean that Apple are trying to cover up any form of issue.
I think everyone needs to calm down a little bit and wait for the update to iOS4 and see if that resolves.
If it was an issue with the actual phone itself then surely every single iphone 4 would suffer from it?
Then why the hell does mine have no issues what so ever, with or without the bumper attached it will not loose signal. I've taken the bumpber off and held evey single part of the phone and it's not dropped once.
Also why are there 3G and 3GS suffering from it since updating to iOS4?
Everyone is spinning out of control over this simple issue and making out like it's a world ending problem.
The link posted earlier with the supposed note out to apple staff with what thier responses should be is simple business process. If there is an issue thats being spread around the media then thier staff are going to be questioned on it so they need to know what thier response should be. Just because this exists doesn't mean that Apple are trying to cover up any form of issue.
I think everyone needs to calm down a little bit and wait for the update to iOS4 and see if that resolves.
Those with the issue (including me) are making it all up for laughs.
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
The biggest thing is, if like 'topher you are experiencing no problems, there is a chance you just live in a bang on signal area so can't even understand what people are moaning about.
At work I cannot affect the signal, at all, no matter what. At home however, I now no longer have 3g full stop, and I can make the signal drop like a stone. It's very fustrating.
At work I cannot affect the signal, at all, no matter what. At home however, I now no longer have 3g full stop, and I can make the signal drop like a stone. It's very fustrating.
Thought so!
I'm not saying there isn't a problem. I'm saying it's getting blown well out of proportion. It's not stopping the phone from working as a phone.
Is there any evidence anywhere that proves 100% that its a design fault with the phone? No
Is there any evidence anywhere that proves 100% that its a fault with iOS4? No
People just need to calm down a bit and wait for the update to iOS4 and see what happens.
Until then, use it as it's simply an awesome piece of kit that every other phone company are trying beat and failing.
Clearly your not from an engineering background.
True. Clearly your forum name ends with a 3. Is that relevent? not really.
You said if it was an issue with the handset surely ever single iPhone would suffer.
That's not how manufacturing works. So yes, very relevant.
As far as what you've said about waiting for a reply from Apple, I 100% agree, but dont say things about an industry you dont know anything about.
That's not how manufacturing works. So yes, very relevant.
As far as what you've said about waiting for a reply from Apple, I 100% agree, but dont say things about an industry you dont know anything about.
Audi A4 1.8T Sport
but, if you were a engineer, as mark is, you would have more of an idea of what goes on in production etc, so you would know that faults don't always occur in all models.
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
Thought so!
I'm not saying there isn't a problem. I'm saying it's getting blown well out of proportion. It's not stopping the phone from working as a phone.
Is there any evidence anywhere that proves 100% that its a design fault with the phone? No
Is there any evidence anywhere that proves 100% that its a fault with iOS4? No
People just need to calm down a bit and wait for the update to iOS4 and see what happens.
Until then, use it as it's simply an awesome piece of kit that every other phone company are trying beat and failing.
My maps wouldn't load last night due to poor signal or something, so I took the wrong exit on the m25, to me, this is a problem.
+1
Otherwise EVERY Toyota accelerator pedal would have been stuck to the floor.
The bottom line is, it's a fault, and is effecting some people worse than others.
lol, everyone knows that, engineer or not. I think your missing my point. Which is all the media and they way people are talking in here is that it's every single phone that has issues. I'm saying it's potentially not.
then it's at a stage where nobody wins.
if it's a software problem, then it is a problem on every phone and everyone saying they don't have a problem will have egg on their face.
if its a problem with the handset, apple's credibility is going to take a massive hit.
The Media are a joke when it comes to ANYTHING that isn't hard fact (i.e. the date).
The problem is there are SOOO many people that believe everything they read.
If you can replicate the issue, you have the issue, if you cant then, you haven't.
If you have the issue, wait for Apple to come up with a response.
That's about it. (or I suppose you could take it back and get a refund and get a HTC or something..)
The problem is there are SOOO many people that believe everything they read.
If you can replicate the issue, you have the issue, if you cant then, you haven't.
If you have the issue, wait for Apple to come up with a response.
That's about it. (or I suppose you could take it back and get a refund and get a HTC or something..)
If they don't do a free replacement I agree. The issues they had with the 3G/3GS with the cracking only made them a stronger company IMO as they identified the issue and offered a fantastic service in fixing the problem (i.e. new handset)
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
I was just on google maps mate, using directions.
(I've never paid for an ap, ever, don't believe in paying for digital content
) It has a maps function, this wouldn't work because of the poor level of signal my handset recieves, how is this not an iphone problem? lol!
I assume you could drive to my house, only looking at the map before you leave?
Audi A4 1.8T Sport
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
What? I don't care that I took the wrong turn, it didn't hurt me, but the fact is my 3GS has taken me out that way before with NO issues. With respects to signal, this handset is a downgrade.
My point was to illustrate times when having cack signal makes a difference, that being one of them. Another being when I want to watch the footie.
TBH I'm not sure if my handset isn't just faulty, as the signal, unless its GREAT, is totally awful.
FFS Fanboys are funny.
Audi A4 1.8T Sport
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i dont have a Clio either (and never have). work that one out.
i dont have a Clio either (and never have). work that one out.
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
You can play with mine?
Nah, mine's a phone. Better signal, consistently, than my 3G ever had.
Lol @ all the fanboys trying to skirt around the problems and make it like it's not a big deal nor is it Apple's fault. If some of you could see what you were actually saying without your Apple glasses on you would probably laugh at yourselves like the rest of us are!
Fabia vrs tdi
I agree, it's truely pathetic. as long as their happy with what they have that's all that matters but it's far from perfect like mist are making it out to be.
I'll stick with my 3gs on 3.1.3, my gf got a 4 and not worth the hassle at the moment for me.
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