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Cheers AlexW. it might be a bit slow but im hoping it will keep progressing in the right direction to where i want it to be.... wheels would be on my list too if financially viable.
yeh thats the one i mean! i thought it should have one! so this could possibly be a sign of the cambelt being done would you say?
and yes it does need one, however im not sure its an urgent part?
and will do fella, i guess there are some horror stories around from mis-timing etc?
yeh thats the one i mean! i thought it should have one! so this could possibly be a sign of the cambelt being done would you say?
and yes it does need one, however im not sure its an urgent part?
and will do fella, i guess there are some horror stories around from mis-timing etc?
George@RTR_Parts
ClioSport Trader
^ LOTS of horror stories regarding the cambelt change being messed up:
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?510521-cambelt-problems-(local-garages)
I'd be taking it to one of the specialists off here who have the correct genuine Renault timing tools and change all the necessary parts , where abouts are you in country
Also good swap from a Bora, enjoy your road trip when cars sorted mate
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?510521-cambelt-problems-(local-garages)
I'd be taking it to one of the specialists off here who have the correct genuine Renault timing tools and change all the necessary parts , where abouts are you in country
Also good swap from a Bora, enjoy your road trip when cars sorted mate
The 172 wheels aren't that bad.
Probs has had the belt done, but it could have been 5 years ago when the car was circa five years old, so do it again anyway, its cheaper than 16 valves etc when it goes (assuming the valves don't break and mash a piston). Get it done with the belt, you don't want something getting into the belt and f**king it up. I have one here too
PM me.As G said, bloody loads. They need the proper renault tools, as if you get the timing slightly out, it'll cause it to idle rough and lack power.
CLIO 182
From my neck of the woods he's one of the lucky few to experience Huddersfield Uni lol
George@RTR_Parts
ClioSport Trader
Ha I didn't realise he was from God's Country Ant
You've got RS Tuning/RS Murray in Leeds or take a trip down M1 to see Mick at Diamond, worth travelling to make sure it's done right IMO
You've got RS Tuning/RS Murray in Leeds or take a trip down M1 to see Mick at Diamond, worth travelling to make sure it's done right IMO
CLIO 182
Haha yeah too blessed to admit it mate! Sunny Oldham originally I believe which is even better/ worse depends how you look at it lol
George@RTR_Parts
ClioSport Trader
I'm going to say worse but not much in it mate :rasp:
Yorkshire is third best place in world isn't it
Yorkshire is third best place in world isn't it
CLIO 182
Haha agreed mate!
thanks for all the replies and advice fella's i will definitely be getting the cambelt, dephaser, water pump and aux belts done once ive saved the necessary mulla. I think i will also take on board the advice about using a specialist.
may replace the plastic cambelt cover and could also do with front passenger arch liner too.
Hopefully the road trip will be one to remember for my lifetime, celebration of finishing university. what better excuse to go thrashing cars and drinking beers?!
unfortunately i would probably place Oldham as a worse place to live than the whole of Yorkshire......
may replace the plastic cambelt cover and could also do with front passenger arch liner too.
Hopefully the road trip will be one to remember for my lifetime, celebration of finishing university. what better excuse to go thrashing cars and drinking beers?!
unfortunately i would probably place Oldham as a worse place to live than the whole of Yorkshire......
Hopefully the road trip will be one to remember for my lifetime, celebration of finishing university. what better excuse to go thrashing cars and drinking beers?!
George@RTR_Parts
ClioSport Trader
Indeed mate :approve:
So it seems buying a French hatchback is full of surprises. My passenger side carpets are pretty wet. So going to have a look into these drainage holes in the bulkhead and see what I can find. If these are not blocked are there any other common areas? Mine does not have a sunroof.
And in more recent news, my little clio has developed a knock / rub type noise when accelerating hard in 1st and 2nd above 4.5-5k revs. I've done the search and you guys all seem to think engine mounts so need those looking at.
If I change to 3rd from 2nd at say 5k it also seems to knock, as though the gearbox moves?
Top gearbox mount or dog bone maybe?
Any input would be appreciated guys
Cheers
And in more recent news, my little clio has developed a knock / rub type noise when accelerating hard in 1st and 2nd above 4.5-5k revs. I've done the search and you guys all seem to think engine mounts so need those looking at.
If I change to 3rd from 2nd at say 5k it also seems to knock, as though the gearbox moves?
Top gearbox mount or dog bone maybe?
Any input would be appreciated guys
Cheers
CLIO 182
Thought you're dog bone was new mate?
When I had it on the ramp it looked pretty new but it was loose. We tightened it up but I'm thinking it may be loose again. Possible damaged thread as we had to use a longer bolt with washers. Has anybody else had a damaged thread on the engine side of the dog bone mount?
CLIO 182
That bracket the attaches to the gearbox is a right PITA to get off whilst the gearbox is in too unless... Is your dog bone mount the twisted type one like the 182's? Where the bolt threads into the actual case? Or like the 172 ph1's where there is a separate bracket on the box with welded nuts on?
CLIO 182
If its in the case that's good news you can just heli coil it. If its the captive/welded nuts that's fucked then that's a right bugger
It'll be twisted type being a Ph2.
That hole in the gearbox, get it helicoiled or timeset as mentioned above. It'll only contuine to f**k up as it is now. Is quite common on them where people have over torqued, or on some of the Non-sports (megane's spring to mind) where theres no extra bracket to help support it, their holes go oval shaped.
That hole in the gearbox, get it helicoiled or timeset as mentioned above. It'll only contuine to f**k up as it is now. Is quite common on them where people have over torqued, or on some of the Non-sports (megane's spring to mind) where theres no extra bracket to help support it, their holes go oval shaped.
Yeh as Alex said it's in the case, thanks for the advice alexW, much appreciated, will look into getting it helicoiled asap then. Also, my drainage holes were not blocked if anybody is interested, however there was water inside the heater motor casing next to the pollen filter..... i will upload a quick run through of what I did with pictures for illustration shortly.
CLIO 182
Yeah wasn't sure it being a 172 even a ph2 whether it was twisted or not as that's the only model I have yet to have worked on lol cheers for the clarification Alex. Helicoil it is then mate. Just don't sponge out and buy a cheap one as realistically once you've drilled the thread out to tap for the helicoil you can't go larger again and cheap kits are naff! And the coils are pants!
so as mentioned above i cam across wet passenger side carpets recently. i did a quick search and decided i would check the drainage holes in the bulkhead to see if they were blocked. below is a little bit of a run through of what i did and my findings. i may need more suggestions on fixing this leak......
So to begin, start by removing the wiper arms, followed by the rubber trim along the top of the bulkhead and then the scuttle panel.
once these parts are removed you will notice several obstructions under the scuttle panel. namely the wiper mechanism and motor and the washer fluid bottle.
remove these also to give better access to the drainage holes.
you will be left with this arrangement:
now check the area directly below the washer bottle around the area where the wiring feeds through into the cabin. this drainage hole was clear on mine :
I then moved along to the centre of the engine bay. this drainage hole i found most difficult to reach. down the front of the bulkhead inside the engine bay, if you reachdown you will be able to find a hole in the material on the bulkhead itself. if you get your fingers through here, you will find the rubber drainage pipe with a rubber flap type fixture on the end of said pipe. open this as much as possible and rummage around to free any grime/leaves/water from the pipe.
now on the scuttle panel side of the bulkhead, the hole is hard to get to. it is situated between the bracket that hold the wiper mechanism which is seen in the centre of the scuttle panel area in my first picture, and the bulkhead itself.
i did find a few offending items around this drainage hole but there was no backed up water etc:
not sure what that cap could be off? i checked the bay and couldnt find any missing filler points etc?
then i moved on to the offside drainage hole. again you will notice some obstruction here also in the form of the pollen filter housing and heater motor:
i un-tightened the two bolts holding the heater motor in, it then slides directly upwards:
revealing the pollen filter (mine is badly soiled and mis-shapen) and a better view of the drainage hole:
now my drainage hole was again clear. however the eagle eyed among you will have noticed some excess water inside the heater motor housing itself. i think this may be where some of my condensation and wet carpet problem is coming from...... although i am unsure if this could cause my carpets to be sodden?:
I dried out the water and then replaced all items in reverse order.
so what do you forum guys think of that?
So to begin, start by removing the wiper arms, followed by the rubber trim along the top of the bulkhead and then the scuttle panel.
once these parts are removed you will notice several obstructions under the scuttle panel. namely the wiper mechanism and motor and the washer fluid bottle.
remove these also to give better access to the drainage holes.
you will be left with this arrangement:
now check the area directly below the washer bottle around the area where the wiring feeds through into the cabin. this drainage hole was clear on mine :
I then moved along to the centre of the engine bay. this drainage hole i found most difficult to reach. down the front of the bulkhead inside the engine bay, if you reachdown you will be able to find a hole in the material on the bulkhead itself. if you get your fingers through here, you will find the rubber drainage pipe with a rubber flap type fixture on the end of said pipe. open this as much as possible and rummage around to free any grime/leaves/water from the pipe.
now on the scuttle panel side of the bulkhead, the hole is hard to get to. it is situated between the bracket that hold the wiper mechanism which is seen in the centre of the scuttle panel area in my first picture, and the bulkhead itself.
i did find a few offending items around this drainage hole but there was no backed up water etc:
not sure what that cap could be off? i checked the bay and couldnt find any missing filler points etc?
then i moved on to the offside drainage hole. again you will notice some obstruction here also in the form of the pollen filter housing and heater motor:
i un-tightened the two bolts holding the heater motor in, it then slides directly upwards:
revealing the pollen filter (mine is badly soiled and mis-shapen) and a better view of the drainage hole:
now my drainage hole was again clear. however the eagle eyed among you will have noticed some excess water inside the heater motor housing itself. i think this may be where some of my condensation and wet carpet problem is coming from...... although i am unsure if this could cause my carpets to be sodden?:
I dried out the water and then replaced all items in reverse order.
so what do you forum guys think of that?
Okay so i finally decided to get under the clio yesterday to try and get to the bottom of my vibration issue. turns out that my dogbone was loose as many threads on here suggest.
unfortunately it seems the bolt hole on my gearbox casing, is now ovaled slightyly aswel as damaged thread. so i will need this helicoiling asap. After a quick chat with Smiggy, he informed me that there is usually a brace between the gearbox side of the dogbone mount itself bracing against somewhere towards the front of the engine bay (could quite remember what it braces against) however mine does not have this brace. does anybody know where i can pick one up from or indeed if anybody has one spare?
i also removed the accoustic valve seeing as i was already under the car anyway and checked all my levels etc again. all going well. so far, so good!
unfortunately it seems the bolt hole on my gearbox casing, is now ovaled slightyly aswel as damaged thread. so i will need this helicoiling asap. After a quick chat with Smiggy, he informed me that there is usually a brace between the gearbox side of the dogbone mount itself bracing against somewhere towards the front of the engine bay (could quite remember what it braces against) however mine does not have this brace. does anybody know where i can pick one up from or indeed if anybody has one spare?
i also removed the accoustic valve seeing as i was already under the car anyway and checked all my levels etc again. all going well. so far, so good!
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Try Adam at Renault Wolverhampton on here.
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Send him that pic too and point out which bits you need.
Had some more parts fitted to the clio over the past week or so. Thanks to AlexW the dogbone mount brace is now in place and there is no more knocking under hard acceleration. result!
I also fitted a new O/S drive shaft, speedometer sensor on the back of the gearbox, O/S handbrake cable and a new washer fluid pump.
so its getting there slowly. student budgets make things difficult.
still to do:
cambelt, waterpump and aux belt (no proof of last belt so best to be safe than sorry)
full service including all fluids, filters and plugs.
then it should be pretty much ready for anything.
I also fitted a new O/S drive shaft, speedometer sensor on the back of the gearbox, O/S handbrake cable and a new washer fluid pump.
so its getting there slowly. student budgets make things difficult.
still to do:
cambelt, waterpump and aux belt (no proof of last belt so best to be safe than sorry)
full service including all fluids, filters and plugs.
then it should be pretty much ready for anything.
CLIO 182
Then track day??? :approve: blytons coming up!
so the ever expanding list continues.
my little 172 is close to having its cambelt replaced, water pump, dephaser pulley and aux belt will all be done at the same time also.
ordered a new engine side cambelt cover casting as the one on mine currently has a stripped thread, allowing you to remove the engine mount bolt. it seems this car has been bodged in all sorts of places by its previous owners. hopefully it will be in a better state when i finish all the bits and bats.
in addition to the above, i have ordered an enclosed carbon air filter and cold air feed.
once the student loan arrives, i will be ordering a full set of cup dampers, full service kit and a set of decent spark plugs. then possibly a set of new tyres before my roadtrip to le mans! or if funds allow, possibly a new set of wheels.
fancy a set of OZ F1's or turini's
hopefully ill have some pictures to update soon. thanks for reading
my little 172 is close to having its cambelt replaced, water pump, dephaser pulley and aux belt will all be done at the same time also.
ordered a new engine side cambelt cover casting as the one on mine currently has a stripped thread, allowing you to remove the engine mount bolt. it seems this car has been bodged in all sorts of places by its previous owners. hopefully it will be in a better state when i finish all the bits and bats.
in addition to the above, i have ordered an enclosed carbon air filter and cold air feed.
once the student loan arrives, i will be ordering a full set of cup dampers, full service kit and a set of decent spark plugs. then possibly a set of new tyres before my roadtrip to le mans! or if funds allow, possibly a new set of wheels.
fancy a set of OZ F1's or turini's
hopefully ill have some pictures to update soon. thanks for reading
So far so good. had a full service including spark plugs, engine flush and fluids.
Cambelt kit, Dephaser pulley, aux belt and water pump. The old ones didnt actually look that old, but i had no proof of when they were installed so better to be safe than sorry i guess.
new dampers all round, handbrake cables and welded exhaust
Thinking about chopping my tailpipes and re-welding them horizontal and then recessing my bumper. I think it would tidy the back end up a bit. not a fan of the tailpipes hanging under the bumper look, what do you guys think?
picked myself up a set of OZ F1's, in need of a refurb and tyres but will look lovely once sorted.
it seems i am 1 step closer to giving the old girl a clean bill of health........ if thats possible?
Cambelt kit, Dephaser pulley, aux belt and water pump. The old ones didnt actually look that old, but i had no proof of when they were installed so better to be safe than sorry i guess.
new dampers all round, handbrake cables and welded exhaust
Thinking about chopping my tailpipes and re-welding them horizontal and then recessing my bumper. I think it would tidy the back end up a bit. not a fan of the tailpipes hanging under the bumper look, what do you guys think?
picked myself up a set of OZ F1's, in need of a refurb and tyres but will look lovely once sorted.
it seems i am 1 step closer to giving the old girl a clean bill of health........ if thats possible?
