Jekyll
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I didnt oil mine for ages due to being lazy! TBH its not a hard setup to remove and oil.
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Jekyll's RB182 Progress Thread
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I didnt oil mine for ages due to being lazy! TBH its not a hard setup to remove and oil.
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Had a few issues this weekend.....
So my plan was to fit my front bearings. Had a browse on the forum and on youtube and thought i'd give it a go as id never done it one one of these before. Turned out it could have gone better! This was all over the space of the weekend, not all in one hit.
Got the car in work friday evening after i finished work. Jacked the car up and removed the wheels. Nice to see the coilover covers still doing there job properly :smile:
Gave the covers a wash
Then i started the process of removing the drivers side hub.
Not really thinking, i tried to remove the ABS sensor from the hub. Of course naturally, it broke as it was seized as to be expected. If i'd thought about it i should of just unplugged it from the loom and left it in but at this point i decided it would be a perfect time to sandblast and paint the hubs and properly clean them up and just buy new sensors.
Hub/flange off and sensor fully removed.
Pressing the old bearings out
The bearing race on the flange had seized on. Cue the grinder, being careful not to score the sleeve.
Removing the seized circlips that was buried under rust was annoying, but got there in the end.
As you can see they looked worse for wear so it was definitely the right decision to freshen them up. All sandblasted, new bearings greased up and fitted and the hub/flange painted black.
Then it was refitted to the driveshaft and everything was copper greased before refitting. With this done it was perfect time for some food and drink!
With all going well i set myself up for the passenger side....
So my plan was to fit my front bearings. Had a browse on the forum and on youtube and thought i'd give it a go as id never done it one one of these before. Turned out it could have gone better! This was all over the space of the weekend, not all in one hit.
Got the car in work friday evening after i finished work. Jacked the car up and removed the wheels. Nice to see the coilover covers still doing there job properly :smile:
Gave the covers a wash
Then i started the process of removing the drivers side hub.
Not really thinking, i tried to remove the ABS sensor from the hub. Of course naturally, it broke as it was seized as to be expected. If i'd thought about it i should of just unplugged it from the loom and left it in but at this point i decided it would be a perfect time to sandblast and paint the hubs and properly clean them up and just buy new sensors.
Hub/flange off and sensor fully removed.
Pressing the old bearings out
The bearing race on the flange had seized on. Cue the grinder, being careful not to score the sleeve.
Removing the seized circlips that was buried under rust was annoying, but got there in the end.
As you can see they looked worse for wear so it was definitely the right decision to freshen them up. All sandblasted, new bearings greased up and fitted and the hub/flange painted black.
Then it was refitted to the driveshaft and everything was copper greased before refitting. With this done it was perfect time for some food and drink!
With all going well i set myself up for the passenger side....
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Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
So i started to remove parts for the hub removal. I had left the components soak in 3in1 penetrating spray while the other side was being done. As the parts had not long been changed, everything still had plenty off copper grease from the previous fitting. Track rod outer, ball joint, hub nut and shock bolts all came undone piss easy. Happy days. This is where it turned.... The hub was seized on the driveshaft spline. As i pulled and pushed the hub, i popped out the driveshaft.
I tried popping it back in but had no luck! Turned out the rubber had popped off which still had the circlip attached as you can see here.
Seen as i was pretty fucked off with that, i had 5 mins out and then carried on removing the hub with a copper/hide mallet. A few swings and it was removed. The driveshaft was left leaving more oil.
Next up was to remove the disc retaining screws. One came off with a small fight, the other put up a bigger one.
Hammer, chisel and drilling and it was removed.
Next was the disc itself. Turned out that was seized on the hub lip. Cue some more beating with a rubber mallet and more penetrating oil and it finally came off. (I was worried at this point that it would crack but thankfully it didnt)
Hub off.
I removed the ABS sensor and had the same issue with the bearing race on the flange once it was separated from the hub.
As you can see, they was fairly manky/rusty.
At this point i cracked on and removed the old bearings fully and the circlips, then proceeded to sand them, fit new bearings and painted them black, just like the other side.
After a phone call regarding the driveshaft to @AlexW i knew what i had to do. Unfortunately it was getting late on sat evening at this point so i decided to call it. Sometimes thing are better after a good nights sleep.
We had no gearbox oil at work so a trip to Halfords in the morning and this was purchased as Alex said he prefered this grade. I take he's experience into hand. This was all they had (In fact this grade was the only grade they had 3 litres in)
Draining the oil. The drain plug is the same as the sump drain plug.
Saw dust on the spillage helps!
Driveshaft removal.
This was the culprit...
All refitted.
Emily (My Fianceé) had been my taxi too and from work and also suggested she stay on sunday to help, should i need it. Well she had her perks by being tea/coffee lady!
Todays lunch wasn't as tasty and the previous day!
All ready for refitting. The butterfly seal plug was a pig to remove (what should i expect!) but i eventually got it off. Found some garden hose for the filling pipe also!
Emily helping out/not being photogenic!
All filled up.
And finally all done.
After a quick test drive i needed to do these 2: Beer and a decent up yours aimed at the RB!
At home.
Emily had today off so she took it to Stortford Performance for realignment as it had been out.
She dropped it off at my work today and took her car home. I left work and drove home with no issues!
Thats all for few days!
I tried popping it back in but had no luck! Turned out the rubber had popped off which still had the circlip attached as you can see here.
Seen as i was pretty fucked off with that, i had 5 mins out and then carried on removing the hub with a copper/hide mallet. A few swings and it was removed. The driveshaft was left leaving more oil.
Next up was to remove the disc retaining screws. One came off with a small fight, the other put up a bigger one.
Hammer, chisel and drilling and it was removed.
Next was the disc itself. Turned out that was seized on the hub lip. Cue some more beating with a rubber mallet and more penetrating oil and it finally came off. (I was worried at this point that it would crack but thankfully it didnt)
Hub off.
I removed the ABS sensor and had the same issue with the bearing race on the flange once it was separated from the hub.
As you can see, they was fairly manky/rusty.
At this point i cracked on and removed the old bearings fully and the circlips, then proceeded to sand them, fit new bearings and painted them black, just like the other side.
After a phone call regarding the driveshaft to @AlexW i knew what i had to do. Unfortunately it was getting late on sat evening at this point so i decided to call it. Sometimes thing are better after a good nights sleep.
We had no gearbox oil at work so a trip to Halfords in the morning and this was purchased as Alex said he prefered this grade. I take he's experience into hand. This was all they had (In fact this grade was the only grade they had 3 litres in)
Draining the oil. The drain plug is the same as the sump drain plug.
Saw dust on the spillage helps!
Driveshaft removal.
This was the culprit...
All refitted.
Emily (My Fianceé) had been my taxi too and from work and also suggested she stay on sunday to help, should i need it. Well she had her perks by being tea/coffee lady!
Todays lunch wasn't as tasty and the previous day!
All ready for refitting. The butterfly seal plug was a pig to remove (what should i expect!) but i eventually got it off. Found some garden hose for the filling pipe also!
Emily helping out/not being photogenic!
All filled up.
And finally all done.
After a quick test drive i needed to do these 2: Beer and a decent up yours aimed at the RB!
At home.
Emily had today off so she took it to Stortford Performance for realignment as it had been out.
She dropped it off at my work today and took her car home. I left work and drove home with no issues!
Thats all for few days!
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imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Good effort. Unless I've missed it, did you buy a new driveshaft?
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
I do love a pic Steve!
I'm glad it's all done now. As i said to emily and a few guys at work, yes it's taken me longer than someone who's done it but I've now done it and glad I did. I like to have a go at things if I'm semi confident. I'm not a mechanic mind.
I mean, If I'd let a garage do it, they would of given me an unexpected call to say it needs sensors, etc. Also, the discs probably would have broken in a garages hand as they probably take less care. At least this way, I know how it all happened. Plus I got the chance to clean up all the parts properly.
Ordered some new ABS sensors today. Found a company on eBay selling them quite cheap and these are compatible with esp and have female ends which mine was.
I also have been speaking to @imprezaworks and @STEVE.M about J&R driveshafts and seen as renault don't sell the passenger side, ive taken the punt and ordered one. Will be here tomorrow apparently. Cost £50. This way, everything will have been changed up front.
I'm glad it's all done now. As i said to emily and a few guys at work, yes it's taken me longer than someone who's done it but I've now done it and glad I did. I like to have a go at things if I'm semi confident. I'm not a mechanic mind.
I mean, If I'd let a garage do it, they would of given me an unexpected call to say it needs sensors, etc. Also, the discs probably would have broken in a garages hand as they probably take less care. At least this way, I know how it all happened. Plus I got the chance to clean up all the parts properly.
Ordered some new ABS sensors today. Found a company on eBay selling them quite cheap and these are compatible with esp and have female ends which mine was.
I also have been speaking to @imprezaworks and @STEVE.M about J&R driveshafts and seen as renault don't sell the passenger side, ive taken the punt and ordered one. Will be here tomorrow apparently. Cost £50. This way, everything will have been changed up front.
K_McDermott
ClioSport Club Member
Megane 230 r26
Sorry if I've missed it but how much oil did the box take? Full 3L ?
Those covers have worked wonders on the bilsteins! Shame how bad the bottoms have got like but at least you've still loads of adjustments should you need it [emoji108]
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Those covers have worked wonders on the bilsteins! Shame how bad the bottoms have got like but at least you've still loads of adjustments should you need it [emoji108]
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leeds2592
ClioSport Club Member
Bean 182 + E70 X5
Takes 3.1L but you'll never get it all out so 3L suffices.
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
I don't know about top work, more pain in the arse work!
Tell me about it. Winter and white wheels don't match. The problem is I work on a farm and the drive in and out is always mucky if it's been wet.
I had to continue mate. I'd already gone past the point of no return!
These are set now and chances are they won't be adjusted. Unfortunately I think it's inevitable unless the struts are fully coated/powder coated. My old BC's were coated and always stayed clean/gloss black.
Yes as above :smile:
Mine doesn't mind this. She actually enjoys it. Certainly prefers this over my old ph1 but that was more raw. This seems easier to drive she said.
Cheers mate.
Erm, I don't know. I'll keep this one cheap I said..... never happened! 😂
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Tbh I said that I want to keep it maintained as its a daily and do a few mods along the way.
I think im still on that track..... I think.
I think im still on that track..... I think.
Storm Grey Clio 172
Amazing mate..... love the updates and especially the pics ha ha
Positive thinking mate, positive thinking!! :up:😂 reminds me of how I justify the extra's on mine, has to be done!!
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I love those jobs that take 10x longer than they're meant to! I'm doing the engine swap on mine at the minute, every other bolt is snapping or seized... it's great.
Just a note on the hubs, you should never paint the face that the brake disc mounts too - you'll likely find that you'll get a wheel wobble later down the line, if you do then whip the discs off and clean those surfaces up :up:
Just a note on the hubs, you should never paint the face that the brake disc mounts too - you'll likely find that you'll get a wheel wobble later down the line, if you do then whip the discs off and clean those surfaces up :up:
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Sometimes it's just easier to change parts, if other parts connected to it are being removed.
Car has done 113k now and being a daily, it needs to be working. I can borrow my missus car but, always nice to have both cars working!
Having the workshop does help. Thankfully we can be there anytime and all through the night. After working hours of course. Downfall is that it's nearly 20 miles away from home, hence me leaving it there overnight for 2 nights and getting my missus to taxi me to and from work.
I wouldn't say fun @Martin. The pizza, sweets and beer was the only fun part!
Bloody cars!
Can't update without pics Glen, you know that
Oh yes mate. But it's all done now. Onto the next thing.... there's always something else!
I did paint the face of the flange very thinly. As you can see, there's brush marks on how thin it is. But if I do get wobble, then I will sand it off.
Great i wouldnt call it. I think it was more of, I didn't really expect it to go this way.
Can't turn back once I'd started mate! It would be a different story if I didn't have the facilities at work.
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Got the new driveshaft turned up from J&R today. Quick delivery considering I only ordered it yesterday.
Comes with the bigger ABS ring too which is cool.
I did notice it's slightly different to my old/current one. The one I have has a coupling over a rubber that's halfway down. Can anybody clarify what this section is? Have they sent me a wrong one?
Comes with the bigger ABS ring too which is cool.
I did notice it's slightly different to my old/current one. The one I have has a coupling over a rubber that's halfway down. Can anybody clarify what this section is? Have they sent me a wrong one?
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
@imprezaworks Any pics of your one you ordered?
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
No mate, sorry.
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
I was told it's a center bearing to help support the shaft? Normally get them with longer shafts?
Hopefully someone can clarify before I send it back, as it would be nice to fit both the driveshafts this weekend?
Hopefully someone can clarify before I send it back, as it would be nice to fit both the driveshafts this weekend?
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Yeah I think he will. I've sent him a message.
I will be over he's this weekends as he's fitting the other side, plus clutch, so it would be a perfect time to change both shafts.
I will be over he's this weekends as he's fitting the other side, plus clutch, so it would be a perfect time to change both shafts.
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
After looking at it again, the chap at work said it was a weight, not a support bearing.
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Thanks Scott. Always a worry when you want to fit something quite important and are unsure.
Thanks Martin for checking also. Clarified your not going mad!
Thanks Martin for checking also. Clarified your not going mad!
scotiamr2t
ClioSport Club Member
Mazda 2, Ph1 172
Its not needed, its to dampen vibration. I would fit the shaft an not worry, i have a J&R shaft on mine an have done for over 2 years with zero issues
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
That I like to hear
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Managed to get clutch and both driveshafts fitted this weekend.
Few pics from friday when we had quite heavy fog at work
ABS sensors turned up
Took a punt on these as i missed the discount at GSF and wanted them for this weekend so i managed to find a set on ebay that are compatible with esp.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330767039696?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
They also came with a free keyring which flashes from black to ferrari logo. Not sure why this was included!
Dropped the car off to Alex's friday night as he was taking it to a family friends unit local to him early saturday morning. I go there around 9ish and he'd already made a start.
I did a few bits on he's turbo cup while he was sorting some bits out. Turned out PFC had a last minute cancellation and they wanted he's cup featured :smile:
Alex showing @ParisPeach how to use a tyre inflater :wink:
Got camber?
Noticed the dogbone mount was the wrong way round so that was corrected.
Old driveshafts removed.
Subframe dropped
Gearbox removed
Old clutch
New Valeo clutch
Refitting
Me looking on....
Refitting the gearbox
Me holding it, just because!
Torqueing up the clutch bolts
Looking confused....
Subframe and plates back on
New J&R passenger driveshaft fitted
New genuine Renault drivers driveshaft fitted (Apparently Renault have now discontinued this as well. I must have got one of the last ones.)
New ABS sensors fitted along with some new bolts as the old ones was rusted and worn.
While i was finalising the last bits and clearing up, Alex fitted my new genuine PAS switch.
All done. Unfortunately we didnt have time to do all the jobs, due to the photoshoot so we called it there for the day.
All parked up, looking filthy but feeling better! No more clicking on full lock and the clutch feels so much better!
All is not all good though. We noticed that the pinch section on the passenger side hub where the ball joint goes into is a tad slack. This isn't good. Luckily i posted up a wanted thread and @Coops Turbo has a spare cup packed 182 passenger hub which im going to purchase. This means im going to clean (sandblast and paint black) the new hub and try and push out my new bearings that ive just put in. Im hoping that not only the bearings come out easy, but the whole hub removal, etc comes off easy. I think i may purchase another genuine bearing kit from @renaultpartsdirect just in case things dont go to plan. This also means that it'll need to be aligned again! 😧 Stortford Performance must love me!
So jobs that need to be addressed now are:
Get new hub and fit new bearings.
Fit handbrake cables
Fit Thermostat
Refit exhaust trim (Alex pinched mine for the photoshoot!)
Get car aligned.
on another note ive decided on doing 2 things:
Im going to remove the sunstrip. Been thinking about it for a while. @sj2112 :wink: and also removing the rear coilover adjusters to see what it looks like.
Thats it for now i think.
Few pics from friday when we had quite heavy fog at work
ABS sensors turned up
Took a punt on these as i missed the discount at GSF and wanted them for this weekend so i managed to find a set on ebay that are compatible with esp.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330767039696?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
They also came with a free keyring which flashes from black to ferrari logo. Not sure why this was included!
Dropped the car off to Alex's friday night as he was taking it to a family friends unit local to him early saturday morning. I go there around 9ish and he'd already made a start.
I did a few bits on he's turbo cup while he was sorting some bits out. Turned out PFC had a last minute cancellation and they wanted he's cup featured :smile:
Alex showing @ParisPeach how to use a tyre inflater :wink:
Got camber?
Noticed the dogbone mount was the wrong way round so that was corrected.
Old driveshafts removed.
Subframe dropped
Gearbox removed
Old clutch
New Valeo clutch
Refitting
Me looking on....
Refitting the gearbox
Me holding it, just because!
Torqueing up the clutch bolts
Looking confused....
Subframe and plates back on
New J&R passenger driveshaft fitted
New genuine Renault drivers driveshaft fitted (Apparently Renault have now discontinued this as well. I must have got one of the last ones.)
New ABS sensors fitted along with some new bolts as the old ones was rusted and worn.
While i was finalising the last bits and clearing up, Alex fitted my new genuine PAS switch.
All done. Unfortunately we didnt have time to do all the jobs, due to the photoshoot so we called it there for the day.
All parked up, looking filthy but feeling better! No more clicking on full lock and the clutch feels so much better!
All is not all good though. We noticed that the pinch section on the passenger side hub where the ball joint goes into is a tad slack. This isn't good. Luckily i posted up a wanted thread and @Coops Turbo has a spare cup packed 182 passenger hub which im going to purchase. This means im going to clean (sandblast and paint black) the new hub and try and push out my new bearings that ive just put in. Im hoping that not only the bearings come out easy, but the whole hub removal, etc comes off easy. I think i may purchase another genuine bearing kit from @renaultpartsdirect just in case things dont go to plan. This also means that it'll need to be aligned again! 😧 Stortford Performance must love me!
So jobs that need to be addressed now are:
Get new hub and fit new bearings.
Fit handbrake cables
Fit Thermostat
Refit exhaust trim (Alex pinched mine for the photoshoot!)
Get car aligned.
on another note ive decided on doing 2 things:
Im going to remove the sunstrip. Been thinking about it for a while. @sj2112 :wink: and also removing the rear coilover adjusters to see what it looks like.
Thats it for now i think.
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