Gentlemans spec 200
Why? I bought 2 of my 5 Rs's new. I wouldn't want one, they do nothing for me.Absolute Boll*cks!
Why? I bought 2 of my 5 Rs's new. I wouldn't want one, they do nothing for me.Absolute Boll*cks!
Well if I'm ever around the cs mansion I'll give yer a knock and show ya how a cup beats a 197. : p
I genuinely wouldn't.
Each to their own. As said, it doesn't do anything for me. No current hot-hatch really does.I honestly adore my Cup, despite its annoying niggles and its pap build quality but i forgive it those as its truly rapid.
In my honest opinion, pound for pound it will still pull the pants down of a 197 DESPITE all the arguments against....
BUT...if someone said to me tomorrow that i could swap it for a cup packed 197 in white, no questions asked, i'd prob jump at it.
It does pain me to say it but i would.:quiet:
we have routine patrols with our private security. i doubt you'd be allowed in.
On the road so all conditions are covered. You must of had a crap cup and trophy then cos it's the same everytime, the 182 and 172 take over it everytime.
Get a 197 I will bring my cup and I will beat you I garentee it. If your so confident.
Going to have the best of both worlds.Nope. My Cup is currently having ITB's fitted at AW. Now they did a BEFORE mods rr session it ran 190......75k, Maxogen Grp N, matched inlets de cat. All RR sessions should be taken with a pich of salt of course, but i reckon it was a good 185bhp..... Ben would have nothing to gain giving an overinflated figure before he did any work, so go figure?
Ahhhhh. How long since it saw daylight? Will be epic. Onedayah, no its kev steves now![]()
How is it that all 197 threads turn into a Trophy thread?
I swear to god warren has a 197 thread alert on his laptop........
Repeat after me, the Trophy is DEAD (deal with it)
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Can the person who started this thread get a word in hedgeways
WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE HERE
Whe istarted this thread a only expected a few people to say 'nice one enjoy', not full on cyber war.
The reason why the steering feels so light is becuz of the variable electric power steering, but in my opinion this should help for steering acuuracy and responsiveness when you turn in.
Thats exactly my point. People are raving about the 197's handling, saying it's a massive step up. Please, someone explain to me how a car that's a big step forward in handling, as quick in a straight line, and better under braking, isn't a chunk quicker on track?
I agree with you, no one should be hijacking this thread so I apologise.
But a serious question - and you are currently more qualifed more than most to give a sensible answer - why did you buy a 197 and not look at a Trophy - what was it about the 197 that made you want to buy it?
Wouldnt bother imo. If you must, a foam replacement itg. A soon as you start messing with IK etc, it'll introduce flat spots and will need remapping. I just change the paper filter every 6k or so![]()
There was quite a few personal resaons why i have bought a car in the first place. First off, recently been promoted at work, but more recently broke up with my girlfriend of 4 1/2 years. This was difficult for me.
I didn't say slow, I said slower!
Don't go by book times, they're just poo tbh.
It's all about the power to weight ratio as I posted above. The one you raced was probably down on power, French cars aren't known for making their true power output!
A girl can always be replaced with a car mate. Plently more fish n the sea.
Wouldn't bother insuring for a track day pal, me and my mate did it last year and when we scrutinised the policy we would haven't got hardly anything back. The way they are organised and set up are great, well apart from Knockhill!
he's saying track day insurance is a waste of time.