Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
i assume this is why my print outs have fly, wheels and corrected power? corrected being for air temp/pressure?
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ktec and their power claims.....
- Thread starter yeecup
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Some of us on here have enough experience of these engines to know categorically they don't make some of the numbers that are posted. You can only ever map a car to the limits of the amount of power available from the VE dictated by its mechanical components. Magic maps that add 15bhp everywhere with little or no mechanical change stand out a mile off as utter nonsense on these cars as the factory map isn't bad enough in the first place for that much difference to be available.
GrahamS
ClioSport Club Member
335d
yeecup
ClioSport Club Member
mk8Fiesta ST,172 cup
I would of asked for my money back!!
Myself I've noticed a rise in their reported figures over the last year or 2. Especially for the cams and ik packages. They've only had the superflow a year or 2 so maybe that is why? They had a DD RR when I went there in late 2010.
the DD was a piece of s**t that kept breaking. Had to do a full software re-install on it at 1am once. Really was dreadful.
Clio 172
figures in the grand scheme of things really doesnt mean much i have no idea what my car is running has few things done from previous owners all i know is its quick enough to beat my mates 260bhp S3 its not just down to the car as i would usher a guess that with someone else driving that S3 i wouldnt be so lucky.
260bhp s3's aren't quick anyway.
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
I was thinking the same. Don't they weight as much as the moon?
1450iirc
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
Not that heavy then.
mikes86
ClioSport Club Member
182 track **** & MX5
Similar situation with myself, I had my car dyno'd (not by a tuning company and they would have had no benefit in falsefying the results) before taking it to ktec for a major service, cams and a remap. The before figure ktec gave me was identical to what it made on the independent dyno. The gain wasn't major too, and ktec were completely honest in this and stated the car was already running very well before they started the work.
Clio T 314hp c43 AMG
Still a third heavier than a clio, so thats essentially 80bhp of that gone, and then they have increased transmission losses as well.
Evo 5 RS
New S3s are leagues ahead of the old ones. Actual quick too before you even touch management
What mods do you have?
Clio T 314hp c43 AMG
Anybody remember this thread?
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...(172-turbo-content)/page3&highlight=Dms+turbo
circa post 44 onwards.
il probably get shot for posting it but its there to be viewed.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...(172-turbo-content)/page3&highlight=Dms+turbo
circa post 44 onwards.
il probably get shot for posting it but its there to be viewed.
Clio T 314hp c43 AMG
no not in the slightest......
182, 6r GTi
as far as im concerned ktec figures are accurate, dont see why people feel the need to slate them all the time, my car was mapped by them, ran 184.6 hp and similar torque,
my brother had his golf gti mapped at amd essex at 280hp
both cars were evenly matched speed wise, once you work out power to weight ratio there very close.
my brother had his golf gti mapped at amd essex at 280hp
both cars were evenly matched speed wise, once you work out power to weight ratio there very close.
I'm guessing he is talking about the large power gain which was posted, to which was questioned, then the difference in intake temps were noted, to which then the reason behind the large power gain is explained - I think he may be pointing at Ktec should have maybe said that right away to the customer/forum, not once it was spotted? I am only guessing mind
I think it's great to here positive experiences, I think it mostly comes from the people who have had bad experiences
I will agree here, even if it's a peak gain, that is a massive gain for such small modifications - it's great to see a company still producing modifications and researching into products for what are old cars now, but it does seem like sometimes it's like the ebay resisiter chip - a lot of big gains said, and people taking their word for it as they are inexperenced/don't know any bettrer - of course this is IMO
Just because it hasn't happened with every customer doesn't prove it hasn't happened at all though tbh.
Yes i agree its high, but is it so hard to believe that are some corking engines out there? Mine did 186bhp stock, im sure a filter, matched inlets and a remap would have seen me 190bhp too.
I'd be pretty safe in saying Ktec have RR'd many RS clios that have churned out below 172bhp...
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
I agree with Russ' earlier comment - :quiet: LOL!
Behind the que for the BTM bummers, TDF.. oh wait no they dont exist any more bummers, RS tuning bummers e.t.c
You know more than most mate, and after seeing various cars you know where I get my opinion from lol
I have used RS Tuning twice for mapping, after contacting various companies to ask about mapping my itb's on the standard ECU - all told me it was imposible other than Paul, who said 'sure, no problem i'm sure we can do it' - we ended up with 192bhp, on an 140,000 mile engine with a dodgy exhaust and the cat still in
Fred has worked on my cars a few times, my black Clio he set my wheel alighment up by eye and a ruler - when put on my Biesbarth laser alighment system at work it was exactly as he said it would be, and both sides were near exactly the same toe out - exactly what I had asked
I think what stands out about these companies is there are never any 'bad' threads about them - TDF I agree with, whatever went wrong went PROPER wrong - and they seem to have screwed over a few people which is not on. What makes it worse was the skipping over the issues, at least Ktec (mostly) try to argue their point, I will give them that.
Do a search mate, they have had some major issues as of late
182, 6r GTi
184.6hp and 165.6lbft was my figure, mines a 182, itg filter, and milltec, pretty much it
we don't partake, nor do my customers, in any form of bumming for the record!
Ah, in that context I wouldn't call 165 and 184 similar tbh. Thanks for clearing it up.
