Looking to buy this williams, but how much should i pay??

[clvs2222]

as above, really like it. im going to arrange to go and see it later, if it is in as good condition as advertised. how much should i pay?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1995-RENAULT-...=39:1|66:2|65:7|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

 

[karlktm]

with them being as old as they are..that will be a massive money pit come mot time...

so find the price of a good 1 with full mot....then take away £600 off of it.

 

[tezza88]

that one your looking at looks like an abused model, would stay away from it, finding the right williams can take a long time and is worth the wait if your patient, have a look on pistonheads theres a few on there atm.

 

[Ali]

My advice don't skimp!!!!! Infact my advice don't buy one!

 

[karlktm]

also...check that it aint a valver..made to look like a williams...damn difficult to spot a real un from a foney!

 

[tezza88]

also...check that it aint a valver..made to look like a williams...damn difficult to spot a real un from a foney!

yeah check things like the door seals they should say williams, also check the loggy, will say in there!

 

[Tullyvernon]

Dont know about hard to MOT???? Mine flies through with no bother! and from owning it nearly 2 years i have spent very little, unless for usual service and cam belt change to be on the safe side.
Just take time and take a realy good look around it, especialy the rear arches. IMO that one could be worth around the £1800 mark? Youl not regret buying a williams!

 

[clvs2222]

^^thats the kind of advise i wanted!

tezza88, why does it look like an abused example? thought it looked quite clean.

 

[mossyv6]

Yes i must admit it does look very clean, the arches are looking respectable and the alloys aren't too bad either, but what did let it down was the engine bay. It lacks the looked after touches such as the scruffy heat shield, shabby sparkplug cover and missing engine mount cover etc.

I would be willing to give that a punt but if it is local i would arrange a view first. Check for rusty sills, gearbox crunching/whining, smokey engine and go over the service history etc. IMHO probably worth upto £800 if your buying blind with no MOT.

Best of luck.

 

[calypso]

it looks pretty sweet from the pics chris, have a look and see what you think, no harm in checking it out.....

 

[clvs2222]

yes mossy, i did spot the engine flaws.

iv sent him a email asking for a viewing. aint heard nothing yet though.

 

[word_easy]

that one your looking at looks like an abused model, would stay away from it, finding the right williams can take a long time and is worth the wait if your patient, have a look on pistonheads theres a few on there atm.

Why does it look abused?!lol

 

[mossyv6]

yes mossy, i did spot the engine flaws.

Shame really but dont let it put you off, do your homework first before rushing into buying it as like others have said they CAN be money pits.

 

[timmmah]

The listing says £400 at the bottom so I'm guessing that's the reserve or the out of auction price if you contact him.

 

[sideways danny]

not buying because of minor engine bay cosmetics would be incredibly blinkered.

 

[clvs2222]

^^it just says that the car hasnt been looked after that well. if it was owned by an enthusiast then it would be perfect.

 

[cat171]

The listing says £400 at the bottom so I'm guessing that's the reserve or the out of auction price if you contact him.

That's for an exhaust & interior for a r19, not the williams

 

[sideways danny]

^^it just says that the car hasnt been looked after that well. if it was owned by an enthusiast then it would be perfect.

not at all. You can be an enthusiast, and maintain the mechanicals faultlessly without obsessing that a heat shield is slightly damaged

 

[clvs2222]

the heatshield on the williams is very important from what iv heard. something to do with fuel lines.

 

[hill_power_clio]

the heatshield on the williams is very important from what iv heard. something to do with fuel lines.

Also the brake pipes and the power steering pipes are behind the heatshield

 

[tezza88]

that one your looking at looks like an abused model, would stay away from it, finding the right williams can take a long time and is worth the wait if your patient, have a look on pistonheads theres a few on there atm.

Why does it look abused?!lol

ok its not abused like some i have seen but theres a few things that i spotted that show it isn't the most cared for one, got little things such as engine mount cover missing, coolant bottle filth, that heat shield thats ment to be covering the vital pipes, just seems a bit untidy under the bonnet shows it 105k millage, seen alot better on that millage, also if its as good and reliable as he states why hasnt he put it through its MOT...? seems a bit off to not put it through as you know thats a vital selling point on an older car, also whats with the steering wheel? turns me away that does, you buy a williams for its originality?!

 

[tezza88]

can i ask what your budget is to buy a williams

 

[crazycup_racer]

i paid 1700 for mine 3 yrs ago, the chassis is mint, no rust what so ever but the paint work had seen better days! Id set back 3k for a minter of one!

For that you can get sub 70k miles with alot of comprehensive service history

 

[crazycup_racer]

expensive but mint!!

http://pistonheads.com/sales/578186.htm

 

[Neil G]

Lovely example

 

[Tullyvernon]

not buying because of minor engine bay cosmetics would be incredibly blinkered.

Mine didnt have those things when i bought it, it has now although the heat shield needs replacing. still goes like a clock.