M3/M4 Buyers.....Should You Have Waited?

AdDaMan · Jun 24, 2015

This is a pretty tempting prospect...

Stunning
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2015-alfa-romeo-giulia-revealed

AdDaMan · Jun 24, 2015

Advikaz · Jun 24, 2015

Looks good

However it'll break like the old guilietta does. Wiring sill very much an issue for alfas.

Bluebeard · Jun 24, 2015

Not to mention the horrific dealers. I've never encountered anything so shocking!

Advikaz · Jun 24, 2015

A lot of dealers have their hands tied with decisions as FCA are such a bloody mare to deal with. But yeah some are awful.

Mito is has real trim issues (basically a punto). Guilietta drives really nicely but the build quality just isn't there (although if you drove one for half an hour you probably wouldn't realise this) which is worrying.

Daz_RT_04 · Jun 24, 2015

It looks good... But to chose that over an M3/M4, no chance.

Waitey · Jun 24, 2015

Tbf I did 60k in a giulietta over 2 years and had no issues at all.

bashracing · Jun 24, 2015

It'll handle like the wheels are on sideways and the dealer will have more than the you do!

Fletcher · Jun 24, 2015

Daz_RT_04 said:
It looks good... But to chose that over an M3/M4, no chance.

I agree.

brisa4984 · Jun 24, 2015

looks stunning!

Ian_182 · Jun 24, 2015

Looks pretty as they all do but no way would I have that over an M3/4. Plus Litchfield are mapping them to 500bhp if you feel the alfa has the edge on performance.

AdDaMan · Jun 24, 2015

ian 182 said:
Looks pretty as they all do but no way would I have that over an M3/4. Plus Litchfield are mapping them to 500bhp if you feel the alfa has the edge on performance.

Yeah and the alfa will map to 600+

CrippsCorner · Jun 24, 2015

That looks lovely, not sure on the wheels though.

Ian_182 · Jun 24, 2015

AdDaMan said:
Yeah and the alfa will map to 600+

My dads bigger than your dad.
Still ///M

AdDaMan · Jun 24, 2015

Id still rather an M3. But its a very very interesting alternative.

Daz_RT_04 · Jun 24, 2015

Even if it had a 100bhp more, it's still not got the appeal of the M badge for me.

car.crash · Jun 24, 2015

I love BMW cars

But I want to stab most of the drivers

Ph1 Tom · Jun 24, 2015

I'd take the Alfa

ColinG · Jun 24, 2015

Ive never "got" alfa's, the 147GTA was cool but I'd never buy one over say an R32 mk5.

This one hasn't changed me either, I feel like you buy an Alfa to try and look different, a bit like Saab owners do.

Matthew · Jun 24, 2015

Looks beautiful.

Scrooge · Jun 24, 2015

Absolutely stunning.

Munson · Jun 25, 2015

Bluebeard · Jun 25, 2015

ColinG said:
Ive never "got" alfa's, the 147GTA was cool but I'd never buy one over say an R32 mk5.

This one hasn't changed me either, I feel like you buy an Alfa to try and look different, a bit like Saab owners do.

I'd only ever 'buy' one if I was a company car driver. Been saying it for years.

So no worries about warranty/after sales/residuals.
Order it, drive it, hand it back.

There's no denying Alfa's drive better than most other cars on the road. There's also no denying they are f**king good looking. But the fact remains they depreciate like nothing else, they're incredibly unreliable/expensive and come resale time it will cause nothing but headache.

Munson · Jun 25, 2015

I suppose at least it can't be any more badly nailed together than the Jaguar XE.

aucky · Jun 25, 2015

BMW is always going to be the quality product, and the Alfa will be lovely to look at (when you see one of the 9 people who actually bought one).

bozothenutter · Jun 25, 2015

I Love BMW's....but the giulia makes an M3 look soulless....and who buys a fun car with his head?

DannyR · Jun 25, 2015

Having seen and heard the video of it, it looks awesome moving and sounds lovely!

BIFCAIDS · Jun 25, 2015

It looks beautiful but M3 > Giulia

Gally · Jun 25, 2015

aucky said:
BMW is always going to be the quality product, and the Alfa will be lovely to look at (when you see one of the 9 people who actually bought one).

Perception is everything. BMWs are some of the most unreliable cars on the road, previous gen anyway. Not sure if Dan agrees working on them but being in cahoots with a lot of warranty people with vast experience they wouldn't have a BMW for free now.

It's beautiful, as always but no one is going to be tempted over an M3 essentially, I don't see it really aiming for that market. Surely it's aiming more towards S4 buyers or similar? Will it be as expensive as an M3/M4?

Advikaz · Jun 25, 2015

gally said:
Perception is everything. BMWs are some of the most unreliable cars on the road, previous gen anyway. Not sure if Dan agrees working on them but being in cahoots with a lot of warranty people with vast experience they wouldn't have a BMW for free now.

It's beautiful, as always but no one is going to be tempted over an M3 essentially, I don't see it really aiming for that market. Surely it's aiming more towards S4 buyers or similar? Will it be as expensive as an M3/M4?

Spot on. Have some massive issues throughout the range. But as you say it's perception.

People who own BM's seem to be a very proud bunch.

Chris91 · Jun 25, 2015

The rear of the car looks immense, not so sure on the front though.

But i just can't see it being much of a rival, if you've saved up a long time to buy an m3 or can finally afford it after longing after one for years, don't think this is going to sway you. The people it might sway though is who can easily afford them and change them to the newer on every couple of years.

Munson · Jun 25, 2015

Never had anything go wrong with my BMW. Weird, according to the internet it should have blown up ages ago. Lol.

bozothenutter · Jun 25, 2015

don't forget the it's differen factor...
value wise they'll drop like a stone once off the dealers court.....might be the best bang for the buck in a year or two.....

cat171 · Jun 25, 2015

I like it, but sadly it'll only be worth about £4.50 by next Christmas.

BIFCAIDS · Jun 25, 2015

gally said:
Perception is everything. BMWs are some of the most unreliable cars on the road, previous gen anyway. Not sure if Dan agrees working on them but being in cahoots with a lot of warranty people with vast experience they wouldn't have a BMW for free now.

It's beautiful, as always but no one is going to be tempted over an M3 essentially, I don't see it really aiming for that market. Surely it's aiming more towards S4 buyers or similar? Will it be as expensive as an M3/M4?

Two in our household and sod all wrong with either, mines had typicle wear and tear problems and the M3 well its awesome.

geemac41 · Jun 27, 2015

Lovely! Want one!

alistairolsen · Jun 28, 2015

Cool car, but IMHO a totally different target market

AdDaMan · Jun 28, 2015

alistairolsen said:
Cool car, but IMHO a totally different target market

A? In what way?

Matthew · Jun 28, 2015

AdDaMan said:
A? In what way?

I always get the impression M3 buyers are super car geeks. More interested in its Nav and Phone Sync tech than actual driving.

If you buy that Alfa, over an M3, your buying it for the looks, flair and as you want something that will probably get under your skin.

In the same way the 182s are technically s**t, but Christ they are fun.

Stefan. · Jun 29, 2015

Matthew said:
I always get the impression M3 buyers are super car geeks. More interested in its Nav and Phone Sync tech than actual driving.

If you buy that Alfa, over an M3, your buying it for the looks, flair and as you want something that will probably get under your skin.

In the same way the 182s are technically s**t, but Christ they are fun.

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