Machine polish question!

[YZFR1]

Hi, im off out to buy a machine polisher this weekend,
Last week I used poorboys black hole and then their sealent too, (really impresed)
I still have some swirl marks and a couple of light scratches showing thru though.
Before i use any swirl removing products with the polisher, do i need any special product to strip the sealant that I aplied last week.
May be a stupid question but im askin anyway!
Cheers Andy

 

[Yellow Dave]

look in the detailing sub forum,

the abrasives in the polish will remove any products but you mention nothing about preping the surface to ensure the paintwork is clean before going at it with the polisher. most of the prep should remove the glaze and sealant

 

[AUTOCRASH]

no you dont!any light scratches that you have may not come out by just polishing though!!you can just flat these with some eithe 1500 or 2000 grit wet and dry with soapy water then polish back up!

 

[Yellow Dave]

wet sanding is not something that you can just jump in on! maybe if you're experienced or work in a body shop and have the knowledge of experienced people around you.

 

[AUTOCRASH]

umm!i do run a bodyshop! if you cant flat a light scratch out with 2000 grade paper and polish it you shouldnt be using a polisher in the first place!!!!

wet sanding is not something that you can just jump in on! maybe if you're experienced or work in a body shop and have the knowledge of experienced people around you.

 

[Gally]

Haven't we had words before about you giving out shocking advice to people. It's not you that has to pay or fix the f**k up.

It's becoming way too common. Shockingly bad advice mate.

 

[Yellow Dave]

I've not questioned your ability mate. nor your profession, why you feel the need to tell me you run a body shop, umm, I'm not quite sure. I've read that was your profession previously which is why I made reference to it. Still takes nothing away from the skill and knowledge in doing it and still not something that someone with little knowledge or inexperience should attempt on there own, and using a machine polisher with a glaze is quite different to using a machine polisher and compound and to wet sanding.

Please don't take this personally or as an attack at you, I'm just trying to guide someone that appears to be quite new to detailing and bodywork and ensure they don't make any mistakes. I was wet sanding on my 1st car, but I had the experience of my dad showing me the way, and have done it on a few cars since, and more recently had lessons and guidance from a professional detailer, but do you not agree it's still not something you go into lightly. getting it wrong is quite costly

 

[AUTOCRASH]

hi gally!
i think shocking advise is abit over the top but! my pro advice would be if you want a perfect finish take it to a pro!
many people cant afford this with there first cars etc! im trying to help these guys and maybe your right my opinion is to pro and could cost them! hope your at cliosport sat and catch up![:drunk:QUOTE=gally;8733627]Haven't we had words before about you giving out shocking advice to people. It's not you that has to pay or fix the f**k up.

It's becoming way too common. Shockingly bad advice mate.[/QUOTE]

 

[AUTOCRASH]

hi dave!
been painting and polishing for 25 years now and like gally said maybe my advice too much for beginners! point taken! going to be at clio saterday with my inferno and maybe bring a bonnet and give some hands on on polishing,touch up and polish! and ways round things!

I've not questioned your ability mate. nor your profession, why you feel the need to tell me you run a body shop, umm, I'm not quite sure. I've read that was your profession previously which is why I made reference to it. Still takes nothing away from the skill and knowledge in doing it and still not something that someone with little knowledge or inexperience should attempt on there own, and using a machine polisher with a glaze is quite different to using a machine polisher and compound and to wet sanding.

Please don't take this personally or as an attack at you, I'm just trying to guide someone that appears to be quite new to detailing and bodywork and ensure they don't make any mistakes. I was wet sanding on my 1st car, but I had the experience of my dad showing me the way, and have done it on a few cars since, and more recently had lessons and guidance from a professional detailer, but do you not agree it's still not something you go into lightly. getting it wrong is quite costly

 

[Gally]

Great idea on the polishing thing mate at CSS. Sorry for having a go mate. It's something that gets my back up because paintwork as you know is expensive and we're not the people who have to fix it.

 

[AUTOCRASH]

pm me mate and i will bring a black bonnet! thats the test of all tests!!!!what we letting ourselves in for????sorry weve stolen your tread mate! bring it to ccs and do it for you!

Great idea on the polishing thing mate at CSS. Sorry for having a go mate. It's something that gets my back up because paintwork as you know is expensive and we're not the people who have to fix it.

 

[YZFR1]

Sorry if my complete lack of detailing experience has caused a bit of an argument. Just thought I'd ask people in the know to get some advice. Taking it to a pro seems like a good idea to me. Maybe ill be allowed to watch and learn the ropes. Cheers for the advice guys.

 

[Yellow Dave]

You've not done anything wrong mate we all started somewhere. Get a DA and next time you do your car try using the Blackpool glaze with a finishing pad on your machine, hopefully the results will be a little better. Will also give you a.bit more experience in handling the machine before using the polishes

 

[JD]

The test of all tests is a PDG...

 

[rich-6]

If it was a newb starting out i wouldnt be having a go at flatting any scratches out, Just do a few passes with a polisher to disguise them a bit.

Once you get the hang of that and gain a bit of experience, Im not talking a couple of hours covering a car in hologrames either! Maybe then you could have a go at it at your own risk mind,
Definatly would advise someone showing you though so you dont go absolutely crackers at it, There are some mongs that would go crackers flatting without paying attention, Without realising a scratch is through the laquer/ very close to etc.

I have took a few scratches out prepping cars up for sale from the auctions, If someones had a go at a scratch before and you dont realise you can soon go through, I've done it a couple of times in the past i'm not the only one and wont be the last one, Resulted in a few hours of my time repainting the panel! Least it got rid of the mark

I have a really annoying one on my o/s 1/4 where my zip on my jesns must have clipped it getting in the car in a car park, Pisses me off something wicked but theres next to no paint there go get rid of it.