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hmm cant turn ESP/traction off.. not good for track use or getting outa shape, but on MotorsTV when they reviewd it, the engine sounded nice and meaty + nice turbo whistle when revving. Exhaust is not discreet actually sounds very nice and sporty, more than say a 225 twin exit TT.
however scoobys are common but there still very good.
Tappd'd RS
It is a few grand dearer than the Leon Cupra R or Civic Type-R but I think its intention is to appeal to a slightly different market. IMO is more of a fast saloon that a hot hatch. Like cliotuRS says, you cant turn off the ESP etc so its not really meant for track day action.
The stats are very impressive still - the CTR will have its worries with one of them as will many of the "Hot Hatches"
I considered waiting for it, but it was over my budget
Christ £23 K for a megane !!! With a discount thats what I got my WRX STI for !!
i got my 172 from motorpoint with cdchanger + CAT1 installed + loads of other stuff tax wise etc.. £12 53reg. Its a great car and i havent had any warenty problems whatsoever with it being an import.. now.. go check out how much a brand new subaru impreza wrx is on their site.. £16699 brand new.. now add £1500 fitted for the PPP upgrade including breaks ECU, styling, spoiler etc.. to take it up to some serious BHP and speeds i think its about 280+bhp.. thats £18199 for STI speeds handling and saving a few thousand in the proccess..
i know what id have common or not !
UK WRX PPPs are only 260 bhp where you only get revised exhaust and ecu.
UK WRX PPPs are only 260 bhp where you only get revised exhaust and ecu. yea sorry 260bhp... sigh anyways the point is thats gonna be fair few thousand quid less. Also in standard form it will beat a meganeRS (maybe not in safety) or at least keep dead even up to 100 (wrx willbeat it to sixty though) and its insurance group 19.
isnt the meganeRS grp20 insurance ???
+ it isnt as reliable....... oh well you get the boring point, but i had to make it for some perspective on pricing. if it were £17500-18K on motorpoint (which it may well be when it comes out) then id consider it deffo, even then its a stretch. bit like the V6 is to high at 27K ! thats certainly not as fast as STI although it does have a rareity value.. but @ that price the V6 has to be some special and IMO its just not @ that price. id sooo love one.
From what I have read about the megane (I know its the same as driving it) it blasts the focus in a straight line but the handling is no where near as good.
Be careful though - Subaru dealers can be particularly awkward about imports (almost to the point of breaking the law). Apparently, its difficult enough to get them to service an import and will not fit a PPP to an import. PPP is ECU and exhaust only (removing 1 cat), everything else extra. A friend has been down this road. Seriously tempting price though.Quote: Originally posted by cliotuRS on 02 April 2004
i got my 172 from motorpoint with cdchanger + CAT1 installed + loads of other stuff tax wise etc.. £12 53reg. Its a great car and i havent had any warenty problems whatsoever with it being an import.. now.. go check out how much a brand new subaru impreza wrx is on their site.. £16699 brand new.. now add £1500 fitted for the PPP upgrade including breaks ECU, styling, spoiler etc.. to take it up to some serious BHP and speeds i think its about 280+bhp.. thats £18199 for STI speeds handling and saving a few thousand in the proccess..
i know what id have common or not !
Megane has far nicer ibterior IMO.
My 172 is an import too - no probs with renault whatsoever on that front.
Iain C
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would rather have a year old Clio v6
Quote: Originally posted by Iain C on 02 April 2004would rather have a year old Clio v6
Or a 3 year old Clio. all the more fun to remember.
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Nothing wrong with Micras! Cousins one has done K reg has done 180,000, has never gone wrong and starts on the button after 1 month of sitting still. How much french cars can claim that.
Plus the new micra isnt tiny! Nikki at work has one and it looks massive next to the cup.
True, the subaru is ugly as sin, but I fail to see how a clio or megane is interesting !
There isnt a lot of difference between the new Micra and the current Clio.
Specs taken from Parkers:
Clio Hatchback (01 on): L:381cm W:163cm H:141cm
Micra Hatchback (03 on): L:371cm W:166cm H:254cm
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Im sure that the current Clio could handle 18bhp more, so the next gen Clio definately could.
Ziel Nurburgring
Im sure that the current Clio could handle 18bhp more, so the next gen Clio definately could.
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Thats a tall car!
Maybe its the styling, it just looks a smaller car. And i never said the current clio couldnt handle 18bhp extra. As far as i am aware there are some on here with nearly 40 bhp (Is my maths correct- Roamers@ 212)!
I would not get one. It is sort of an orphan with no real pedigree. At least the 2.0 Sports are used in Rallying and on the track in several classes.
If you are going to go for a turbo 2 litre it should be for either the Scooby or Evo. Nothing else comes close.
I saw the Megane today and what struck me was the tail pipes. Look like they belong on a Ferrari, not a Renault!
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