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Meguiars MF DA System



jenic

ClioSport Club Member
Rejuvenate is immense, the problem you have is it has filling abilities so you might think you're removing these marks but really you're not. By DA maybe just stick with Rejuvenate and Amigo. By rotary i'd be using the 106 to remove a lot of the micro marring (spider webbing) then glaze with amigo.

It's hard to explain as there are so many options but decent correct via DA can take time.

If you're using 106fa get the prime+Amigo, if you're using rejuvenate just get Amigo. Simole?

Well I've got the white and blue pads, the 106fa, the prime and amigo.

I could still buy a rotary or a DA, as I'm yet to buy the machine, need to check out my uncles DA tonight. Infact I know my uncle has a festool rotary which he uses to polish kitchen work tops, think its the 150 they sell on I4D but I'd have to check.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
He uses a festool to polish worktops! FML!

They are predominantly workshop tools festool not detailing products.
 

jenic

ClioSport Club Member
He uses a festool to polish worktops! FML!

They are predominantly workshop tools festool not detailing products.

It's for the wood worktops everyones getting at the moment, he bought a load of festool cutting equipment at the same time which is superb quality, really nice kit the festool stuff.

Mike, the trophy paint will not be that hard. Ph1-2 clio paints are soft to medium.

Cheers, will see how I get on :)
 
I.D colours seem to be harder than the standard colours sprayed all together.

JonG's old 1.2 in the same colour was a doddle. Although it had been resprayed on the rear bumper leaving some red overspray... that was certainly a scare!
 
  Golf GT & A4 Avant
It was the AF guys that told me it was pretty hard, as were black gold and racing blue over the standard range of colours. I've only ever tried to play with VW paint so I can't really compare it to much other than what I'm told
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
I personally think it's very hard. It has "ceramic clearcoat" not as hard as the mercs and vags granted but imo it's still cery hard.
 
It was the AF guys that told me it was pretty hard, as were black gold and racing blue over the standard range of colours. I've only ever tried to play with VW paint so I can't really compare it to much other than what I'm told

Really?? BG and RB were fine with my PC and Menz 3.02 followed by FF. I've done 7 BGs and 4 RB. Weird, Dave my friend!
 
  Megane R26
That Liquid Yellow bonnet I'd class as medium-hard, which surprised me too!

As for the MF system, it does have it's place but on softer paints the removal rate can be rather aggressive. People fool themselves into thinking its a safe way to easy correction, which it is in terms of not burning paint, but you can still breakthrough if you remove too much clearcoat.

As with all things, you really need to assess clearcoat removal whilst polishing and also try and establish roughly how much you have, especially if you haven't owned the car from new yourself and there don't know if a car has been polished previously.

For me the DA system is useful in a collection alongside a rotary. I will tend to use it on harder paints which don't have too many deeper scratches. The firm nature of the backing plate means the MF pads don't 'contour' into a scratch as you pass over a panel so 'roudning' off an RDS is less effective when compared to foam.

For a beginner, on Renault paint, I'd stick with foam and a DA at first until you understand what you are doing, how and why. Then progress on to more advanced polishing techniques which require a bit more caution such as the MF system and rotary polishing. Also on softer paints the MF system will almost always require further refining and the MF Finishing Wax/Pad don't leave a sharp enough finish for my liking. I can actually see the difference under a light, it's not just detailing b*llshit.

Stick to foam at first. Menz is a strong choice too - 203S and 106FA being a good choice and see how you get on from there. The CG Hex Logic pads are great via DA and the open cell foamed ones allow you to cut and finish down well in the same polishing set.

HTH,

Russ.
 

jenic

ClioSport Club Member
Thanks for the reply Russ, looks like Gallys advice agree's with what you have said.

I've ordered a DA with the Hex pads today :)
 
  Golf GT & A4 Avant
Really?? BG and RB were fine with my PC and Menz 3.02 followed by FF. I've done 7 BGs and 4 RB. Weird, Dave my friend!

Hey, I no nudtings, just trying to learn from those of you that do.

going back to the MF pads, I did a lot of reading into them as I considered it instead of getting the EP800. what put me off them was it all seemed very fussy compared to foam pad, the need for multiple pads of the same type if you wanted to do a fair number of panels, the need of an airline to clean properly. Simple spurring of the pad didn't seem enough. It didn't seem like it was very beginner friendly
 
  Fiesta ST-3
Mike, you could always pop into CYC. They are only in Huddersfield... I popped in today and picked up some Lather, rejuvenate, tough coat, some foam and MF applicators, and some other bits for my friend I was talking about the other day. Really helpful guys Tim and Dave!
 

jenic

ClioSport Club Member
Mike, you could always pop into CYC. They are only in Huddersfield... I popped in today and picked up some Lather, rejuvenate, tough coat, some foam and MF applicators, and some other bits for my friend I was talking about the other day. Really helpful guys Tim and Dave!

I've ordered already mate, coming tomorrow. Did a big order with a mate which made delivery cheap.

mike your welcome to my das-6 or silverline storm for as long as you like.

Where were you yesterday!

I wouldn't get a DA. Rotary is miles faster in terms of correction time.

I've got the das6 to start with, and I've also got my uncles too which turned out to be a silverline rotary, weighs a tonne though!

The way I saw it was the das6 sells used for little less than they are new, so can sell it if I want/need to, I'm hoping I won't.
 

ipodsandguns

ClioSport Club Member
  GW X200 CUP
Im sure iv told you your good to use it before.

rotarys are heavier but due to that reason and the rotary action I find them easier to use due to the fact they dont vibrate like a DA.
 

jenic

ClioSport Club Member
Im sure iv told you your good to use it before.

rotarys are heavier but due to that reason and the rotary action I find them easier to use due to the fact they dont vibrate like a DA.

An well, the deal is done now, thanks anyway mate.

I've seen the damage your rotary can do ;)
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Rotaries per se' aren't heavy, the Sim180/Silverline are beasts, way too heavy.
 


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