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MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Just checker my Renault Cup 172 brochure...and that is definitely right.
They also increased castor angle by 3 degrees on the Cup compared to the FF 172.
They also increased castor angle by 3 degrees on the Cup compared to the FF 172.
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ozzyo99 said:
All four wheels are the same - therefore some of it was down to the wheels, and the rest down to the hubs (if what you're saying is correct).
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Good point Oms, not thought of that before.
Defo 20mm at front, and 10mm at rear though.
Defo 20mm at front, and 10mm at rear though.
Clio 197
^^^
Therefore... there MUST be something different with the front geometry, and not just different wheel offsets!
Damn, I'm good
(ahem, yes I have just repeated myself )
Therefore... there MUST be something different with the front geometry, and not just different wheel offsets!
Damn, I'm good
(ahem, yes I have just repeated myself
)
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http://www.rs-team.org/gamme/gamme.php?p=1&id1=rs3&id2=rag
so, to be exact its 22mm front, 8mm rear (not considering wheel offsets)
and 172cup has different steering geometry, front track set at 0 degrees, rear at +32" (opened rear track)
so, to be exact its 22mm front, 8mm rear (not considering wheel offsets)
and 172cup has different steering geometry, front track set at 0 degrees, rear at +32" (opened rear track)
ripp
ClioSport Club Member
182 FFAT
This has to be a mega bump lol!
But I'm no sure even now after so many years reading about these cars about the track of the 172 cup.
People say that it has the subframe holes drilled wider to increase the track. This combined with the lower offset wheels should give quite an impressive track gain.
However what about the 182 cup?
On paper I think it has the same track as the 172 cup but the 182 cup Turinis have et45 VS et38 (172 cup) offset.
So either the 182 has a narrower track or it reaches the same track helped by the different hubs?
And what about the subframe? Is the 182 cup subframe the same build as the 172 cup?
But I'm no sure even now after so many years reading about these cars about the track of the 172 cup.
People say that it has the subframe holes drilled wider to increase the track. This combined with the lower offset wheels should give quite an impressive track gain.
However what about the 182 cup?
On paper I think it has the same track as the 172 cup but the 182 cup Turinis have et45 VS et38 (172 cup) offset.
So either the 182 has a narrower track or it reaches the same track helped by the different hubs?
And what about the subframe? Is the 182 cup subframe the same build as the 172 cup?
Clio182
Different 1*2 suspension arrangements
I've been doing some searching but not come up with much. Has anyone ever measured the differences between 172, 172 Cup, 182 and 182 Cup suspension parts? What are the actual differences? I know the damper bolt spacing is different on the 182 Cup, but what about the actual hub dimensions? Am I...
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I'm in Australia and we never got the 172 Cup, but we got the 172 P2 and the upgraded 172 P2 with ESP. The 172 ESP has increased-camber lower wishbones which I believe were from the 172 Cup. The wishbones are interchangeable and in fact the increased-camber parts have replaced the earlier part (be sure to replace in pairs). The only difference is the lower ball joint mounting hole is a few millimetres forward to increase the camber.
Crayola
ClioSport Club Member
Castor not camber
