Thats my thinking but have you ever seen an evo with washjets on the front?? I dont think I have :S
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My HID story (read/final)
- Thread starter pritchp
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Thats my thinking but have you ever seen an evo with washjets on the front?? I dont think I have :S
Just lol at saying we only fit HIDs to "want people to think you're rich because you have white headlights"
No, I bought HIDs because I want a better light to see where I am going. Had nobody flash me and have drove behind people and they have said it does not dazzle them so I'm not "blinded by my own selfish desire to have them", I just prefer them to standard headlights as it is mostly dark country roads I have to drive down.
No, I bought HIDs because I want a better light to see where I am going. Had nobody flash me and have drove behind people and they have said it does not dazzle them so I'm not "blinded by my own selfish desire to have them", I just prefer them to standard headlights as it is mostly dark country roads I have to drive down.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
HID's without projectors won't improve your vision at night though.
I didn't think race cars had to have head lights? It is a race car, right? Looks like one with that tow eye
Don't be like that Roy, I'm just trying to fit in
If i'm honest, I think my halogens give better vision at night. The HID kit i got was pretty s**t tbh!
Can honestly say I've never paid any attention Richy!
Manufacturers sometimes sell cars with projector style lenses without having the HID Xenon bulbs, meaning you don't need washers/auto-leveling stuff. Perhaps, evo's were sold with that setup...
Old shape lower spec Passats were sold like that - from memory.
Old shape lower spec Passats were sold like that - from memory.
Megane 225 Cup
I LOVE HID'S
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
As were Ph1 172's and RSi's.
Ah, of course! D'uhhhh
As was my 200sx, and they are actually the dimmest dipped beam in the world. I could see better holding a torch in my mouth whilst driving.
Well...they did. Can see much further ahead that what I could with normal Halogens.
Although for all the haters out there, I do have proper projector style headlamps ordered and they are finding their way through the Royal Fail network
The leveling and headlamp washer thing is a legal requirement if they are fitted to a vehicle at build IIRC there's no law in force that requires a check of either being there to pass an MOT or be road legal although they should check you headlamp aim and beam pattern/cast. It's a bit like the old decat issue, nowhere does it state on an MOT that you have to physically have one fitted. They had to be fitted at the factory on all cars after 1992 but so long as you pass your emissions come MOT time you don't have to have a cat fitted.
Its bought.
O and you need projectors YO
O and you need projectors YO
Tell it to the judge!
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Covered earlier fella. Reflectors can work with hids, if specifically designed for that purpose. Projectors work in a completely different way, and will control the beam to the same degree regardless of the intensity of bulb.
I think with things like the evo they are dealer fit, so don't require washers etc to be legal.
Megane 225 Cup
Haha this Roy lad is funny keep em coming
How likely is it that your car would pass an emissions test without a Cat though?
I've got a decat, and after about 6 months of having it on, the engine light has never come on - which it probably should have? So it got me thinking there's a slim chance it Might be okay...
It's more likely for a small frugal engine to pass, especially without one. I've no chance of mine passing, seeing as it belches fuel through the exhaust.
I won't hold my breath then - it stinks of petrol!
Waitey
ClioSport Club Member
Alpina D3, AC Cobra
You need them adjusting then. M3 lights point down as standard. Someone has either wound off the fine adjuster or moved the wishbone sensor.
are you on smack?? stock s14 lights even with higher wattage bulbs were terrible, fitted hid's and it was a 100% improvement!
same with rx7, stock poppups, you would be honestly better off using a clipper lighter as a light source... stick hids in and you can see! both cars are reflector type lights.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
You could only 'see better' because the light was going everywhere!
on my 14 and my rx7 it didnt and doesnt go everywhere... had the correct beam pattern... allows me to see further and better... 100% better than stock, weather its illegal or whatever its a massive improvement on stock, and tbh living in the middle of nowhere i would honestly rather see a s**t load better so i can avoid animals etc than not see better lol.
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
It doesn't have the correct beam pattern. Unless they were designed as hid reflectors (in which case thy wouldn't of had halogens fitted) it's impossible.
^ +1
The new Discoverys are worst!
Although that might be because i'm sitting like an inch off the ground and get dazzled by Everything...
The new Discoverys are worst!
Although that might be because i'm sitting like an inch off the ground and get dazzled by Everything...
Golf GT TDI
2001-2005 lagunas dont have projectors & have xenons but with the face lift they changed to projector but as said earlier, xenons without projectors look pikey and imo dont work as well
almost all manufactures use projectors when a xenon option is available
a decent set of philips bulbs would be a better bet
almost all manufactures use projectors when a xenon option is available
a decent set of philips bulbs would be a better bet
clio 182 + cup packs
Hids are pointless in the wrong headlights just create a danger to other road users with the crap beam pattern
Too the cat outa of my 172 as a test and it passed with de-cat.
Im fitting some in our disco this weekend, lets see how many people get pissy...
Turbos.
Entertaining thread.
HID kits are for poor people (Cup owners). You don't look cool, you just make it glaringly (geddit!) obvious that i am richer than you. I am a car geek, and know well enough what cars have xenons and what ones are fakers. I shake my head, despairingly, despite knowing at 17 i would probably have done exactly the same thing.
Having said all this, my Smart has completely standard projector lights (i think like the previous model Punto) and i get flashed up from time to time. Once someone even brake tested me because they thought i was flashing them up!
HID kits are for poor people (Cup owners). You don't look cool, you just make it glaringly (geddit!) obvious that i am richer than you. I am a car geek, and know well enough what cars have xenons and what ones are fakers. I shake my head, despairingly, despite knowing at 17 i would probably have done exactly the same thing.
Having said all this, my Smart has completely standard projector lights (i think like the previous model Punto) and i get flashed up from time to time. Once someone even brake tested me because they thought i was flashing them up!
Megane 225 Cup
Well fitted mine today
In my opinion they are to bright due to not having a cap built into the headlight as per on previous cars
So they will be sold on and some decent Bulbs bought!
In my opinion they are to bright due to not having a cap built into the headlight as per on previous cars
So they will be sold on and some decent Bulbs bought!
RDH
ClioSport Club Member
Had them in mine for almost 2 years, never been flashed, never been pulled.
Although, I will also add that yes the light scatter is horrible, the DO blind on coming traffic, and a down right dangererous if there is any water on the road. I got them because I thought they look good. 2 years later with abit more maturity I know realise they don't. The fact they are still in there is down to my laziness and lack of replacement bulbs.
With regards to the M.O.T, mine has been through 2. The first it would have failed were I not good friends with the tester/garage, the second, which was done at a different garage that I know nobody who works their, passed no problem. It's just down to luck lads.
They are illegal in anything other than projector lenses with washes and auto levelling.
H*R bulbs, which are HID bulbs designed for reflector headlights, ARE road legal and you will pass and M.O.T with them. There are the bulbs that you see in Lagunas, Honda Civics etc...
Although, I will also add that yes the light scatter is horrible, the DO blind on coming traffic, and a down right dangererous if there is any water on the road. I got them because I thought they look good. 2 years later with abit more maturity I know realise they don't. The fact they are still in there is down to my laziness and lack of replacement bulbs.
With regards to the M.O.T, mine has been through 2. The first it would have failed were I not good friends with the tester/garage, the second, which was done at a different garage that I know nobody who works their, passed no problem. It's just down to luck lads.
They are illegal in anything other than projector lenses with washes and auto levelling.
H*R bulbs, which are HID bulbs designed for reflector headlights, ARE road legal and you will pass and M.O.T with them. There are the bulbs that you see in Lagunas, Honda Civics etc...
There are an tonne of t***s in my local town driving round with these fitted to their cars. I would personally love to take a sledge hammer to their headlights as they blind other drivers on the road.
And they look utterly shite with the whole beam pattern all over the place.
And they look utterly shite with the whole beam pattern all over the place.
BMW
Calm down paddy.
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
but an S14 has projectors lol
erm no they dont lol 14a does, 14 doesnt.
