got a 172 now mat?
Id be really interested in getting the rear coliover units and using them with my LEDA's up front.
Mark - LEDA didnt like the idea of desiging them, I asked them and I think Gary G did when he first had the LEDA's made for his 182.
Fred - you must of had the idea of making rear coilover units because you have them on the 172 cup!
Why didnt Leda want to do it?
Who makes aftermarket coilovers for 1*2 - Bilstein, Leda, H&R, GAZ. It makes no sense that this 'upgrade' to the original setup has never been thought of.
Why didnt Leda want to do it?
Who makes aftermarket coilovers for 1*2 - Bilstein, Leda, H&R, GAZ. It makes no sense that this 'upgrade' to the original setup has never been thought of.
Im not 100% sure, original answer i think was rear of the car isnt strong enough, but thats been proved wrong in this thread.
I think if I went to the new LEDA today and asked them to make them they would. I can try.....
Dave
iv seen the mount a few times, there was a race car at Mark Fish for a while.
It didnt looks as if it had a bush in there, just bolted directly to the metal, ill me see if iv got a pic
its easier and cheaper for a manufacturer to just produce a spring, and tweak a damper that they probably already have on the shelf, i would of thought.
Its a good idea, and i like it.
Was going to fit a set of H&R's to my 172, but i think i will wait for these now!
I would be very surprised if the rear coilover is bespoke. It would cost a fortune if it was.
they must have used parts they already manufacture i guess, but possibly put them together in a different order, ie casing from one car, platform from another. although, i would have thought ast are a big enough manufacturer to be able to spend a couple of thousand euros on r&d. thats half the reason i'm so interested in these!
I am interested in the rears but would like some better answers on why no other companies have produced this yet.
iv seen the mount a few times, there was a race car at Mark Fish for a while.
It didnt looks as if it had a bush in there, just bolted directly to the metal, ill me see if iv got a pic
they are not saying they have copied any one, they are saying they have taken a damper design which they probably all ready have and adapeted it for the clio rear fitting.
Which is probably true, im sure they already had a coilover unit like this avaliable for a different car and they have tweeked it for the clio.
Your right, the race car coilovers dont have a rubber bush from what iv seen.
When can we get ordering options and prices for the units?
Dan R - we all know AST know thier stuff, if you dont, you dont survive in todays market! You dont need to defend them so agresivley mate!
we just all want these!! lol
Your right, the race car coilovers dont have a rubber bush from what iv seen.
When can we get ordering options and prices for the units?
For the AST's?
For the AST's?
Yes for the AST's. I would like a price on the rear units and what i can specify when ordering, like spring rates etc etc.
Would also like to know if they offer a spring exchange like LEDA used to?
Thanks
^ from the sound of it, these are still very much in development. it's just that dan has ignored the usual route of hype and drip feeding information. i for one think that when finished these should be both top quality and great value for money. and also a top piece of initiative too! hope you are getting yours free dan!!
If the rears didnt work id take them off and go back to the LEDA's + with out sounding rude the handling of the car wouldnt be his problem as he wouldnt be fitting or setting up the car.
I dont want to sell the whole kit, I like the leda's, the adjustment on the front looks bette then the AST aswell, I cant see how i could set the same camber i have now with the AST kit looking at those pictures.
When the kit is finished and up for sale ill speak to whoever I need to about ordering.
Where are you based?
Miles away from Essex then!!
Got any more trackdays planned this year other than cadwell?
deff, I like Freds idea of comparing all the set up's on track. But will be too hard to sort out and we will all need to be on the same wheels/tyres/tyre pressures to make it fair!
i like the idea of testing them at the same time by the same driver but like most things i fear that this will never happen
Not wishing to put the compnay down im sure these are good but just because a company can make good stuff doens't mean they always do.They are dynamite mate. they are used alot on cars in europe. Alot of cars on the racing scene are using them. Been makin suspension long enough i think to have some idea what there on about.
I think everyone would prefere it not to.Curtis at powerstation prefers to have a bit more travel available as he prfeers them not to hit the bumpstop if you hit something harsh etc
Depends what your looking for though.he doesnt want to run anymore cos he feels that that is perfectly adequate and will make very very lttle difference to tyre wear. 2 deg neg is way too much for road unless you get tyres for free!!!
THey won't be valve etc wise gaz are rubish IMO.and my current Ledas (which incidentally look exactly the same as the Gaz Clio 2 struts?)
There back in business that woulnd't put me of buying there stuff.Again with LEDA, recently went into and out of administration so not sure where they are going to end up.
i'm the same, i think my car has about 1 degree. which makes the car much less nervous, and easier to drive smoothly. if i want it to turn in sharper i just have to turn the wheel a bit further. also since i drive it every day, on the roads where i live it would be unbearable with much more than that.
With regards to the rear damper spring set-up. Does the Kit come with an upgraded mounting bolt.? To take in to account of the extra loading placed upon it.
Nows that it also supports the cars weight as well as all suspension loading too.
Everyone is allowed there own opinion edde i know but by the sounds of your last thread you were just out to pi*s people off! Yes the coilovers that ive had develpoed may not be everyones cup of tea but at least it gives people more to choose from. as far as im concerned ive done good. Ive not bugged them up at all and said there the best i just said heres another good choice from a well established manufacturer!!!!! saying (DEPENDS WHAT YOUR LOOKIN FOR) in relation to camber is true yes but im just tellin you what he thinks is best for the road thats all. and like i also said if you want to run more you can but he sees no reason for me too. I didnt say it was the law to not run 2 degrees. i just said he thinks theres no reason!