New Civic Type R

Addicted · Oct 8, 2014

Not really (have you even looked at them to see what comes as standard?), if you spend the AMG to the same as a standard spec R then you're already looking at a good few grand extra. There's not really anything you need on the R, sure there's stuff you can spec, but the spec is already high as standard.
But anyway, this is going offtopic.

Looking forward to see what spec it comes with, I wonder if Honda will introduce a Type-R equiv to rival the Fiesta ST and that size hatch?

Ian_182 · Oct 8, 2014

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...true/onesearchad/used,nearlynew,new?logcode=p

That's the sort of price I mean,and theres a golf gti for nearly 36k just down from it on autotrader.

Regardless of the price though im glad manafacturers are making fast cars again.

Pete. · Oct 13, 2014

The only thing that puts me off buying one is the price and initial depreciation.

I may be biased on my experiences but the EP3 and FN2 are far from warm hatches. Obviously this must be the opinion of someone who hasn't driven one or a Jeremy Clarkson review. I much prefer my FN2 than any of my three Clios as a driver's car.

Addicted · Oct 13, 2014

ian 182 said:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201409197518419/sort/pricedesc/make/volkswagen/model/golf/radius/1500/page/1/usedcars/postcode/tf16fw/quicksearch/true/onesearchad/used,nearlynew,new?logcode=p

That's the sort of price I mean,and theres a golf gti for nearly 36k just down from it on autotrader.

Regardless of the price though im glad manafacturers are making fast cars again.

That's a Golf R, it's just mis-advertised, or in a way to make it so it appears in GTI/GTD searches too.

But it's also imo why I think it's priced in that region, it's there to compete around what I would say are "Super Hatches" (Focus ST, Megane, R etc), and you have the cheaper "Hot Hatches" like the Fiesta ST, Clio etc.

Mr Burns · Oct 13, 2014

Pete. said:
The only thing that puts me off buying one is the price and initial depreciation.

I may be biased on my experiences but the EP3 and FN2 are far from warm hatches. Obviously this must be the opinion of someone who hasn't driven one or a Jeremy Clarkson review. I much prefer my FN2 than any of my three Clios as a driver's car.

I hear what you're saying and partly agree... In reality most sporty cars shortcomings are only brought to light on-track, and even then most drivers don't exploit their cars limitations. If we were all so serious about reaping maxing rewards from driving our cars we'd all buy super expensive tyres and brakes, instead of T1-R's and EBC Greenstuffs. People are definitely swayed by a TV presenters 3 minute verdict of a car that he probably only spent 2 minutes driving, which is pretty narrow-minded tbh.

Ian_182 · Oct 13, 2014

Pete. said:
The only thing that puts me off buying one is the price and initial depreciation.

I may be biased on my experiences but the EP3 and FN2 are far from warm hatches. Obviously this must be the opinion of someone who hasn't driven one or a Jeremy Clarkson review. I much prefer my FN2 than any of my three Clios as a driver's car.

Ive owned my FN2 for 4 years now and I would call it a warm hatch.I've also had a 172 and a 182 and I agree they are much better made cars than the clio's and the performance is near identical,appart from top end.
I also agree with you i also much prefer my Type R over the clio's to drive aswell.
I am not however going to pretend its a megane with 260 bhp or a 300bhp focus RS.To me it is a warm hatch.

Ian_182 · Oct 13, 2014

I also found this snipet of info from pistonheads.It looks as though Honda are sticking with the 2 tier car that the FN2 was where they have a type R then a GT version.One will be a sub 30k car and the other will be just over 30k.
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=30949

RSteve · Oct 30, 2014

This not been posted yet?
https://www.youtube.com/user/HondaVideo
Have a mess around with the R key whilst the video is playing, awesome.

182Trophy · Oct 30, 2014

Pete. said:
I may be biased on my experiences but the EP3 and FN2 are far from warm hatches. Obviously this must be the opinion of someone who hasn't driven one or a Jeremy Clarkson review. I much prefer my FN2 than any of my three Clios as a driver's car.

I know it is an old post but i agree with you. The ep3 is def a hot hatch. I loved my mates and the only thing i would change would be steering feel, but apparently it can be sorted for not that much. Mate had a straight pipe and it was awesome. Chavy exhaust, maybe, but at 8500rpm it was ace.
I too am glad that they are giving the new one a good go! Would be awesome if they go over 300bhp and take on the RS. They certainly have the ability.

Darren S · Oct 31, 2014

RSteve said:
This not been posted yet?
https://www.youtube.com/user/HondaVideo
Have a mess around with the R key whilst the video is playing, awesome.

This video has to win an award or two!
And if that's anything like the noise of the production car - I NEED IT!

D.

182Trophy · Oct 31, 2014

I agree it sounds superb, but like I said on the other thread, can't see it happening!

gambit · Oct 31, 2014

That car is seriously epic. I want that car and that sound.

ben81 · Nov 1, 2014

It's going to need a bit more than 280ps for people to compare it to other 'mega' hatches like the Golf R, A45, FRS, RS3 etc all with ~300ps or more.

Knuckles · Nov 1, 2014

We're not even getting half of the styling of the concept are we though?

We're getting a flat front bumper, higher ride height, no vents on the rear bumper, different headlights and a smaller spoiler than the fn2 got.

Jaff. · Nov 1, 2014

that video is incredible!

cummon honda! give us something to shout about!

DannyR · Nov 1, 2014

Knuckles said:
We're not even getting half of the styling of the concept are we though?

We're getting a flat front bumper, higher ride height, no vents on the rear bumper, different headlights and a smaller spoiler than the fn2 got.

Your thinking of the under type R spec one that they released pictures of a month a go.

Nothing is confirmed on this yet, but I imagine it'll look similar to concept

Knuckles · Nov 1, 2014

DannyR said:
Your thinking of the under type R spec one that they released pictures of a month a go.

Nothing is confirmed on this yet, but I imagine it'll look similar to concept

So like Renault GT and Renault RenaultSport?

Brilliant!

Jaff. · Nov 1, 2014

Knuckles said:
So like Renault GT and Renault RenaultSport?

Brilliant!

they done it with they type s - type r stuff before though

182Trophy · Nov 1, 2014

Could they get 8000rpm+ out of a turbo 4 pot reliably? If so, what would the power band be like? Would you still get a tidy amount of torque low down and then a surge as vtec kicks in, YO!?

Jaff. · Nov 1, 2014

no reason why not if they spec the correct turbo.

as with everything in engineering there are compromises to be made

182Trophy · Nov 1, 2014

Jaff. said:
no reason why not if they spec the correct turbo.

as with everything in engineering there are compromises to be made

Do you know if they have designed a new engine for this car or is it the existing 2.0vtec with a turbocharger?
Whats your opinion of the sound from the advert? Do you think they have synthd it to help boost interest? Pardon the pun lol

Ray Gin · Nov 1, 2014

I'd imagine it would be a new engine. As for the sound, I think it might be made a little more fruity through a couple of minor effects, but even as standard the VTEC engines do have a decent roar when revved! I'm actually excited about this. I could well be interested in buying one.

Jaff. · Nov 1, 2014

it will be a new engine i imagine. its way too inefficient to turbocharge an existing engine when you can optimise a new one.

as for sound it will by synthesised i bet.

the focus sounds epic, but its very quiet so you never hear it, i imagine the civic would be the same

Ian_182 · Nov 2, 2014

IIRC they dumped the fn2 engine because of emissions so im guessing it will be an all new engine.

Ray Gin · Nov 14, 2014

£42,950

George182 · Nov 14, 2014

Liam. said:
£42,950

That price isn't correct.

Honda's Twitter was hacked.

Ray Gin · Nov 14, 2014

Yeah just saw that. Hoping its considerably cheaper

Ian_182 · Nov 14, 2014

One will be just under 30k the GT version will be just over.

PoppinCherries · Jan 20, 2015

Saw at junction 13 m1 earlier.

Knuckles · Jan 20, 2015

Oh, my.

Matthew · Jan 20, 2015

No tyre shine FFS.

Addicted · Jan 20, 2015

Oh my god 4 exhausts, how f**king stupid does that look it's only a 2.0L 4-pot, 1 per exhaust what is this madness thats just silly.

Waitey · Jan 20, 2015

One exhaust per cylinder is for c***s.

Fact.

gwalker98uk · Jan 20, 2015

I saw that one, or another, this afternoon on the A421 towards Milton Keynes. Look much better in the flesh.

Mr Burns · Jan 20, 2015

I'll reserve my judgement until I see a finished one in the flesh, but it would seem they'll be very Marmite.

Matthew · Jan 20, 2015

Why the obsession for manufacturers to put 4 exhausts on everything that's 'sporty'?

In ten years there will be a Golf R with six.

PoppinCherries · Jan 20, 2015

gwalker98uk said:
I saw that one, or another, this afternoon on the A421 towards Milton Keynes. Look much better in the flesh.

That is on the 421 mate.

Addicted · Jan 20, 2015

Matthew said:
Why the obsession for manufacturers to put 4 exhausts on everything that's 'sporty'?

In ten years there will be a Golf R with six.

Are you feeling left out now because you only have 2? :tongueout:

Matthew · Jan 20, 2015

Two is enough for me thanks :wink:

gwalker98uk · Jan 20, 2015

Haha, good point @PoppinCherries

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