Just read an article in EVO mag and they reckon the new Cup soon to be released will do 0-60 in 7.1 seconds, doesnt seem that quick does it.. Maybe theyre not as stripped out as the old ones?
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New Clio Cup
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Just read an article in EVO mag and they reckon the new Cup soon to be released will do 0-60 in 7.1 seconds, doesnt seem that quick does it.. Maybe theyre not as stripped out as the old ones?
Renault Laguna Coupe
Renault say 6.9 to 62. Its not much lighter than a standard 182.
Remapped derv Golf
Renault said the 172 Cup was 7.1 didnt they. Didnt EVO test it at something like 6.5?
Doesnt seem much point in it then to me, it doesnt look at purposeful as the old one either. Suppose its cheaper though.
MINI JCW
Agree, 172/172 cup,182.182 cup should all be good for 60 in under 7 secs.
As said before the 172 cup appeared to have a purpose (100kg) lighter the 182 cup is just a poor marketing gimmick and only weighing 20kg less with a lot of the standard 182 kit taken out of it, ill be suprsied if they shift that many
Remapped derv Golf
The reason Renault have left things like ABS and A/C in the 182 Cup is because of feedback from 172 Cup owners isnt it?
Yeah, they used the totally wrong focus groups. They used the people who bought the cup because it was cheaper so they all wanted "more refinements". If theyd used the cup owners on here as their focus group it would probably have 100% carbon body panels, no back seats as standard, a "go baby go!" button and a "jettison extra weight" button which would kick out all other materials in the car which arent dedicated to speed.
Ta, Andy
Renault Clio 172 Ph2
renault are expectinalmost half its 182 sales to be cups. they reckon wrong in my opinion. they have gone to near to the 182, i mean, cloth interior trim saving weight over leather/alcantara? ten grams maybe?
Iain C
ClioSport Club Member
yeah dont think the 182 cup is different enough from a 182.
172 cups had cool colour,nicer rims and the no toys thing.
Reno have missed the point with the 182 cup imo
Yeah you lot are forgetting that Joe Public walks into a dealer and pays list price.
When you compare the list price of a Cup with the list price of a normal 182 plus the additional Cup packs it starts to look more attractive as they are saving £1300? To a younger driver thats their first years insurance and they might not give a monkeys about leather as its harder to care for when your mates are vomitting their kebabs over the seats and scagging it etc.
Most people cant be bothered or are not comfortable with buying online from a broker. On top of that they feel really uncomfortable about bartering with a dealer. When I tell people in work that I saved 2k on the price of my car they still say they would rather go to their local dealer and pay list.
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
I thought the reason behind the 182 Cup not being as focused/stripped/light as the 172 Cup was down to the fact that when they started offering Aircon on the original 172 Cup... almost all sales from then on were with aircon fitted... hence renault deduced that theres no real market again for a "proper" Cup?
A lot of 172 owners (and a few Cup owners) traded their 172s in for the 182.
Hands in the air any Cup owners who will be trading in their 172 Cups for 182 Cups?
I know i for one will not be, not because of price, but because of image and performance, and the love of the original Cup.
They probably dont care the 1762 has been and gone Cup meant nothing before the 172 Cup made it what it has a repuation as.
The new ones called Team I belive but its bound to be called Cup on here.
Im sure the ABS can be "fixed". Unfortunatly the 172 Cup is the last of the none ABS cars from now on any manurfacturer selling over 400 of a model a year willhave to give it ABS.
I wish the Team 182 had been a true stripped out ligtened car/racer. Lower it say 40mm or even better get the proper Cup racer suspenion fitted none of this just changing the dampers (as they did with the 172 Cup). Alas its not going to happen.
Its called the 182 Team in europe and the 182 cup in the UK. Check the RS website.
Ta, Andy
Its not a Team, its a Cup !
Audi TT Stronic
Quote: Originally posted by Toypop on 17 October 2004
This issue with ABS, wasnt it the case in magazine tests that the ABS 172s stopped quicker than the Cups despite being heavier?Not saying that is true, just thought I read it somewhere?
The 172 does 100-0 mph in 3.99 seconds.
Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
The reason why it will sell is because its cheaper.
(if we are honest thats why the old one sold well)
its not that much heavier over the old cup. (1021 vs 1070kg)
And it has most of the comfort the 182 has.
Its a bargain buy. but i would still have a Full 182 every day.
If i bought a 172 cup id definetely put in RS interior (182 not 172) or blue cobra racing seats with harnesses attached to a stainless rear strut brace
. I cant stand the seats either. Theyre the one thing id ever want to change about a cup thats visual of course. Id like to fettle the b*llocks off it performance-wise. 182 cup interior is alright. Dynamique is well better interior than the original cup interior.Ta, Andy
