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  a burnt one
No, i seen you're point but you have missed mine, it's all very well saying to give yourself more space, but as i said before, when you try that they only accelerate more to lessen that space. Or at least they do in my experience.

If i have to react to something suddenly the proedure will be the same as hard braking when he's behind me too close, he will hit me, wether thats because i brake for a genuine reason or not.

Provided he is following me at a safe distance he will have time to react if i brake hard.
That, of course is provided his brakes are capable, if not then he should keep even more distance.

Maybe if in the original posters situation, the woman had done the same this incident may not have occured but as my point proves, do nothing and they will continue to tailgaite, widen they gap and they will lessen it, brake and let them know you are there an they will either hang back or overtake and shout expletives whils giving the finger.

I know im in the minority and i know in some peoples eyes im in the wrong, i dont need others to point that out for me, i alo know plenty who do the same (even on cs, who have strangely went quiet) i also know the law is in my favour, because if he hits me under my braking, in the laws eyes he was travelling at an unsafe distance and therefore was at fault.

He will have a hard job proving i hit the brakes for no reason as he couldnt possibly see in front of me but as i have said before, i do not brake with the intention of leyting him hit me, obviously the force of my braking depends on how close he/she is.

I know nobody so far agrees and im not trying to change anyones opinion, i can see evryone elses point but i'l stick to my tried and tested methods for now.


**If anyone's opinion has changed and they wish to try the gary method i urge you not to try it whilst in front of white-van-man, they dont give a f**k and will happily plough through you wether or not they could have stopped in time**
 
  172 cup
:banghead:

i used to do this (to a degree) when i was young and stupid.
i have now grown up and use a more thoughtful solution

my driving is probably as bad as all the other muppets on the road, but i didnt coment on baldylocks accident because everyone makes mistake and he sounds like he will learn from it.
You comented on his Accident but you sound like you dont care if you cause an accident.
remeber you dont know the person behind, Their past or state of mind, the condition of their vehicle or if they are insured.

if you gently reduce speed and make a large gap in front of you will not need to make an emergancy stop (on the whole emergancy stops are a sign of bad driving)
 

CJ

  Blue ph1 172
I was meaning to say that as well but I forgot... in a situation where I think I might need to stop I'll slow down (if only by easing off). That's why it's only nearly happened to me (not had a single accident yet)... still s**ts you up a bit though and where the other driver has anchored up for no reason it shows poor judgement on their part.

Not necessarily, if you can prove she had no reasonable reason to stop, you could shunt her up the ass and still not be blamed insurance wise. You cannot be blamed for other peoples inabilty to interpret a situation.

Very very unlikely that you'd pull that one off... the best you could hope for is that they declare her partly to blame, but you're still always to blame when you hit the back end of the car you're following... obviously a sudden lane change / pulling out in front of you is another matter.


Wanna bet, I've gone up the arse of two people and both times it's been judged as their fault. Believe me, it;s not as it used to be, People have to stick to the rules of the road, if they hae no reason to slam on, they are at fault, regardless of the '2' second rule.
 
Maybe if in the original posters situation, the woman had done the same this incident may not have occured but as my point proves, do nothing and they will continue to tailgaite, widen they gap and they will lessen it, brake and let them know you are there an they will either hang back or overtake and shout expletives whils giving the finger.

I was'nt tailgating her you fuckwit!! If I had been I would have hardly posted this thread as I would have known it was totally my fault.
 
No, i seen you're point but you have missed mine, it's all very well saying to give yourself more space, but as i said before, when you try that they only accelerate more to lessen that space. Or at least they do in my experience.

How does that work? You leave extra space to the car in front of you, and then the tailgater behind accelerates through your car to lessen the space?! :S

You have some strange experience.
 
  a burnt one
No, i seen you're point but you have missed mine, it's all very well saying to give yourself more space, but as i said before, when you try that they only accelerate more to lessen that space. Or at least they do in my experience.

How does that work? You leave extra space to the car in front of you, and then the tailgater behind accelerates through your car to lessen the space?! :S

You have some strange experience.

WTF are you on 'F***wit'?
That response was meant to be a reply to the remark about increasing the space between me and the car BEHIND me.

You can call me a F***wit when and if i ever crash my car.:mad:

So easy to start name calling when youre all nice and comfy behind a keyboard
 
  Clio 172 mk2
I can't believe the analysis of this situation has gone to three pages....at the end of the day there are so many factors invloved.
 

MarkCup

ClioSport Club Member
No name calling from me...just frustration that a clearly explained safe principle is wasted on some...

gary l - you have again spectacularly failed to grasp the point I've been trying to make.

How can you make more space between you and the car behind? You can't. Is that what you think I was saying you could achieve by lifting off the throttle?

What I was saying is that you should create more space in front of you, so that you have more time to react, and Mr F***wit behind has far less chance of ploughing into the back of you through your own sudden braking, because you won't be braking suddenly, because you've increased your stopping distance, because you are driving with your eyes open and paying attention.

It's rare that someone collides with the vehicle in front unless that vehicle has braked suddenly, and they've not seen it or reacted quick enough and BANG!. If you don't do that (brake suddenly), they can sit 6 inches off your back bumper all day long, and apart from get on your tits, there's no harm done - unless you try to test that theory by jumping on the brakes.
 
  a burnt one
I did have a reply all written out there but the computer crashed and i cant be bothered writing it all again.

Can this thread now be locked please as it is extremely tedious now and could go for another dozen pages.
 
  a burnt one
But before it is, just for the record, the 'safe' driving tips are not lost on me, i just choose not to listen to them.

Lots of people drive in an unsafe way crossing hands on wheel etc,admittedly, not as unsafe as me but there we go.

:rasp: french kiss and make up.
 
How does that work? You leave extra space to the car in front of you, and then the tailgater behind accelerates through your car to lessen the space?! :S

You have some strange experience.

WTF are you on 'F***wit'?
That response was meant to be a reply to the remark about increasing the space between me and the car BEHIND me.

You can call me a F***wit when and if i ever crash my car.:mad:

So easy to start name calling when youre all nice and comfy behind a keyboard

Oh please :rolleyes:

I would have used the same expression if I was talking to you face to face, when after explaining more than once what happened you still seemed to get the wrong end of the stick. No hiding behind keyboards here ;)

You seem to have difficulty reading and understanding other peoples posts.
 
  Ultra 197 ex 172 Cup
Lets just face the facts, Mr Bladylocks, wanted to look at the arses crossing the road, like we look at womens arses when we be driving, and we all could hit someone if they suddenly stop for no reason. So it was a close escape for Mr Baldylocks, and lets hope next time he's looking at women in short skirts crossing the road, and no one stops in front of him :)
 


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