ph1 172 vs nova redtop

[Laura]

ok so my mate has a 2.0 8v redtop in a nova, its striped

just wondering how ppl think my 172 would hold against this

 

[len_beach]

Is it an 8v or is it a Redtop? The Redtop is the 16v c20xe/x20xe with 150/156 bhp. The 8v is the c20se 130 bhp or c20ne 115 bhp.

If we take it as the 150 bhp engine and the car weighs 850kg for arguments sake, letstorquebhp quotes 60 in 6.23 and drag qtr as 14.48. I don't think it will be that quick though TBH.

I would say there will be very little in it unless it is an 8v where you will have the advantage.

 

[Sheila’s’ Wheels’]

pish. 2.0 novas are useless.

 

[Day]

Are we including corners in the equation?

 

[len_beach]

If we're including corners the age old Clio cliche kicks in, if not it will be close run thing. I always wanted a 2.0 Nova.

 

[Laura]

ok it must be a 16v then does a quarter in 14.0 dead at santapod, its striped and caged. he laughed when i said id be able to give him a good run for his money , i just wana make sure i dont make a fool out myself lol

 

[The Hoff]

Straight line the Nova would hand a 172 it's arse me hates to say.

 

[Danith]

have a word! 2.0 nova is not such a big deal anymore. well i dont think so anyway. a 2.0 turbo maybe.
old dogs.

 

[Adams_16v]

still quick cars in a straight line!

race them point to point on some decent roads and expect to kick his/her ass!

 

[Sheila’s’ Wheels’]

there is no way on this earth a 2.0 150hp nova will do my 17poo in a straight line. the things are made of pig iron!

 

[tommyboy]

it would have you if we're just talking straights, Im afraid to say

 

[Sheila’s’ Wheels’]

Never. Infact i will bet my wife on it lol!

how exactly? There were 2 at coombe when i did my last track day there and round the corners they left me for dust (they were on coily's) but on the straight i just reeled them in again.

 

[The Hoff]

there is no way on this earth a 2.0 150hp nova will do my 17poo in a straight line. the things are made of pig iron!

I'd challenge that, they are pretty fking quick, if their stripped out your looking at stupid power on a car weighing 850kg.

If they're setup and coilovered they also don't handle too badly, but in standard trim they are in fact shite.

 

[Adams_16v]

does the 172 do 14.0 1/4 mile?

they are 2ltr 16v with 150bhp at least standard, and very strong engines, a lot make more than standard power and they weight fuk all as well!

i went to a track day with my mate and we had a blast with a turbo 2ltr nova! he was pulling away on the straights with ease, but every corner the clio nailed him, and we eventually got past! they are crap at handling but damn quick in a straight line!

iv raced enough of them at york in my time when i had my old clios! i was runnin 14.1 all day and they were all about on par! my mates mk1 172 was running 15's all day!

 

[JayR]

The standard 172 does the 1/4 in 13.9 i heard so you'll have no probs!!!

 

[Sheila’s’ Wheels’]

who mentioned turbo??

I see no mention of turbo in the previous posts?

 

[Adams_16v]

Appologies! I was just refering to the handling of that one in question thats all not the straight line speed!!

iv seen it at no end of track days, and had a good neb, and its obviously 'sorted' in the handling department...and still crap! :rasp:

novas are renowned for being s**t handling, regardless of coilies, especially with a heavy 2ltr in the front!

a 17poo should eat it for breakfast on the corners!

 

[TheJesus]

Dan, you wont piss on a 14.0 1/4 miling Nova... I doubt you'd even get near that time even with mods tbh.

Laura, you will struggle against it big time tbh if thats the time it's running... stripped out you'd still prolly get panned... best bet is to just use my car against it, we'll swap the plates over for a run and pan it into oblivion

 

[Laura]

lol hell yes im down with that, he may notice that it sounds different n looks different though lol

 

[TheJesus]

meh, just say it doesn't launch well on 16's

 

[sh33n]

Red Top nova's shift, especially if it's stripped etc, obviously depends on if it's a straight line race or circuit etc, but overall I'd bet on the Nova, sadly

 

[Laura]

yeah i thought that would probably be the case to be fair, at least im abit closer now than in the 1.2 lol

 

[TheJesus]

some cams and a remap might see you around the low 14's though Laura!

depends if this one your getting is a quickun or not, we'll find out in time I guess

 

[Dan_mk1]

14.0 sounds far too quick for a 2ltr 8v, the 8v's aint worth a w**k and are slooooow!

 

[Laura]

must be a 16v

 

[Wilkeh]

m8s got a 2ltr turbo nova, i can beat it on short sprints as it cant put the power down. Once it grips it pretty damn fast but i wouldnt want one! If its raining it takes him about 9 seconds + to reach 60 mph

 

[J203425]

depends on how good the drivers are! I've beat a couple of redtop novas in my cav gsi, same engine but about twice the weight. Its not all about power lauch and gear changes come into to.