PH2 Restore > Road Going Go-Kart

[Jamesstone]

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No barry white hear lol, although havin to turn the air con & xenons off every 10 seconds may become annoying lol, any idea what sort of battery i could get away with running then chris-172?

 

[CHRIS-172]

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theres a few guys on the OZ renault forum who post on here so ill see if i can get them to explain.


the batt should be fine when the car is running, it just doesnt like it when you have the ignition or acc on when the cara isnt started fro more than brief periods from what i gathered.

should be seeing a few of them on sun so i can let you know more then bud.


P.S. im sick for the carbon bits that you guys are using!

 

[Jamesstone]

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That would be ace mate, 6/8kg batterey would be very handy on the weight saving side of things indeed, seeing as it cost fortunes for just a few extra bhp loosing weight seems the best way forward & should improve fuel consumption & breaking power :approve:


P.s.... Carbon fibre rules!! Surely you can get bits sent over mate? does look so lush

 

[ClioF1]

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I've got the lightweight battery install.. saves about 5kg all up from memory, I've had the stereo going for about 6 hours while detailing the car and no issues starting it at all

 

[Jamesstone]

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What batterey did you have installed mate & how much did it cost? got any pics?

Been looking at some by the name of red top, the redtop 25 looks good but dont know if that will keep the 172 alive for normal use :S

 

[Jamesstone]

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*** UPDATE ***

Had another play with getting the exhaust right this afternoon, was still not happy with it but refuse pay £350 when it is in great nick & sounds ace

So this is how it was currently.. bit.. erm.. chav still :dapprove:

So firstly thanks to peparami for the 182 exhaust surrounds from one of his previous machine

So got the dremel out & began the masacare :evil: , was abit worried that this could go wrong & have a huge hole there lol.. but all went well & here's the result

Very happy with it now :approve: , was hoping the coil overs would be here to today but they never came .. hopefully be here tomorrow

 

[MoRpH3uS]

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Looking good !
Remove this rear wiper, it looks ugly

 

[Jamesstone]

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Thats the next mod for this weekend , although i'll be doing something a little bit diffrent compared to the grommet that just gets rammed in there to cover the hole, will get pics up as soon as its done

 

[couzens]

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they sell a completely blank iirc james, from the cup racer in france on something

 

[Jamesstone]

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Just wait & see what i have planned for this.. may look ace or may look kak lol.. hopefully its not a pain in the arse to get the wiper blade off :dapprove:

 

[couzens]

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haha mine was mate
the bearing had rusted, my mate goes i can fix that go turn it on, as i turn it on i herd snap.
he held it back and it snaped rite off lol, removed the motor and jobs a guden!

thats how we modify in bracknell

PM me what ur gna do i want to change mine

 

[Jamesstone]

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^ ^ LOL, sounds like braknell is the place to go then! Couz how does that plastic bit come off, is there clips visible when the boot liner is removed? is that wiper motor got any weight too it? want my full fat 172 to be skinnyer than a cup lol

 

[couzens]

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^ ^ LOL, sounds like braknell is the place to go then! Couz how does that plastic bit come off, is there clips visible when the boot liner is removed? is that wiper motor got any weight too it? want my full fat 172 to be skinnyer than a cup lol

that plastic bit just comes off mate, i prised it off i remember corectly and yeah it weighs a bit, not much tho, still will be a diffrence overall with it removed mate

 

[Jamesstone]

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Thats what i'm thinking, all these little 2.. 5.. 8.. kgs will all add up , gotta get rid of that lump spare wheel & drop a can of tyre weld in the boot :approve:

 

[couzens]

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tbh id rather have a AA membership card then a can of tireweld. after all it does weigh less lmao

 

[Jamesstone]

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Dont worry i will be keeping the spare wheel in the shed so that in the event of a puncture or what ever i can call one of the family up to bring me the spare, never really travel more than 30 miles from home but if i do i'll throw the spare wheel in the boot , just handy to have a can of tyre weld "Just in case"

 

[Jamesstone]

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** UPDATE **

Well had planned to sort something out on the rear wiper side of things, so the idea to remove the wiper, smooth the pannel & colour code it was in the works, thought it would look fairly descent

So after a few hours work in between waiting for the coats to dry this is the result

I'm still 50/50 on it, not sure if i'm gonna keep it this way or spray it black, happy that its smoothed & doesnt have the grommet on it but will see how i feel about it at the end of the week

Oh & on the way home from work i was travelling down the m4/m25 at 55mph in 5th gear, i reset the trip computer when i left work & after 15 miles this is what i got - :approve: :approve: :approve:

Yes i could have sat at 70 in the fast lane but since it was all moving slowly & was shot from work i thought i would take it easy, old man style driving saves you money, ideal in this cash low blues lol

 

[Spongebob 172]

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looking good james...fancy doing mine for me
any update on the coilovers yet

 

[couzens]

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how did you do it mate in the end? you never PM'd me

 

[Jamesstone]

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Thanks mate, yea can give you a hand , looks much better with the thing off & save abit of un-needed weight, even if it is less than a 1kg lol, not sure if i wanna do it gloss black though :dapprove:


Still not coillys :dapprove: Barry said they should have been with me thursday/friday.. hopefully be here tomorrow

 

[Jamesstone]

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Sorry couz, totally forgot mate, well firstly took the dremel too it to remove the the raised part, filled the hole with abit of thin plastic then got myself some body filler.. let it dry.. wet & dry.. primer... let it dry.. colour added.. let it dry then layed down a few coats of clear, still gotta get the meguiars polisher on it to cut it back but its not gonna be cured for another 2 weeks :dapprove:


What do you guys think, keep it colour coded? still much prefer it smoothed over the grommet

 

[couzens]

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its better smooth, i mite do mine. it looks gd colour coded mate, but think black mite look good aswell, as the shade of the glass at the bottem is balck

 

[Ali]

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Tastefully done.

 

[Jamesstone]

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Thats what i thought to couz, being as the glass is black at the bottom may look better.. not sure :S .. either way i think i may be the first to have done it :approve:

 

[Spongebob 172]

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nah your not the first to have done it mate....seen it done on a couple of clios already....awesome job though mate,the car is really coming together now

 

[Jamesstone]

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Damm, thought i would have started a new trend .. LOL

The more & more i look at it the more i like it, really couldnt stand the thought of the grommet + some one will no doubt either pull it off or push it in lol, just looks to outta place for my likeing, easy fix when removing the wiper so can see why its popular though

Cheers ivan, have so many more things i wanna do to it but funds dont allow :dapprove:

You sorted a splitter yet ivan? need to get it colour coded too, best 2 things you can do to a PH1

 

[Jamesstone]

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Been looking around for a light weight batterey for a few weeks now, came accross this on ebay - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....7642&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab=Watching 6.1kgs

If memory serves me right the standard batterey is around 15-18 kgs, can any one confirm?

Would this batterey be suitable for normal road use as well? dont usally sit around for hours on end with the engine off & the music on, have no subs or any of that heavy shite, pure light weight means i just have componets

What you guys reckon, worth buying?

 

[CHRIS-172]

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Pretty sure that is the one a few guys are running in Aus however i think they have it with a metal casing rather than the plastic.

std battery weight was 11-12 kgs for the Aus spec cars.

Keep in mind with that battery you will need to fabricate new mounting points so a bit of weight will go back in there.


You relocating to the boot or keeping it in the bay?

 

[D1CKY]

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Your car looks great James

How easy was it to fit the Ecu ?

Is it just a case of plug in and away you go ?

 

[jack_davey]

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Looking good mate, although I cant help but think with all this weight saving business you would have been better off buying a cup!
Look forward to seeing it around, as I'm also in surrey!

 

[Jamesstone]

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Thanks for all the comments guys

although I cant help but think with all this weight saving business you would have been better off buying a cup!

Few reasons, although it would probarbly of been a better choice lol

Firstly, got this very cheap, cheap enough to justify all the work/parts that are going into it

Seconadly, insurance, was another £450 more, only 1 group higher on the insurance, how does that work :S

Finnaly, Air con + zenons, aircon mainly, although it will only get used maybe 20% of the year the thing is priceless if your sitting in traffic sweating your bulls off lol.. Oh & zenons.. they just look so

 

[Jamesstone]

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*** UPDATE ***

Finnaly got the coilovers

Firstly thanks to Limca, gave me contacts to get me the FK koni's ( adjustable damping version ) for £540 :approve:... They are normally £700 delivered from most places, so thanks again for that mate

Now onto the install, have only just finnished working on my mates van so dont fancy havin a go at this tonight, feel shot, its been a long day :dead:..so does any one have any tips on setting the camber & damping? plan to get it to a specialist next month when i get payed but would like my clio lowered around 35/40mmm till then

 

[Spongebob 172]

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you gonna fit them this weekend james...i can get over early to help you mate and to sort out the remap on mine

 

[Jamesstone]

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Yep remap this weekend is no probs , would be ace to do the shocks saturday but probarbly gonna be working in the morning, so would have to be lunch time, although may have a go tomorrow after work :evil:

 

[couzens]

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yay

 

[Impey]

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Looks sweeti very nice seats 1st dibs if ya do get rid matey

 

[Jamesstone]

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*** UPDATE ***

It has been a hot weekend, but alot of progress has occured :approve: , Coil overs were fitted & some weight removal completed, so friday evening & saturday morning the coillys were installed, first impressions - I thought the car would need to be set-up & untill then would be a bag of shite to drive but the thing drives spot on, no where near as harsh as i thought it would be, look forward to see what its like set-up

So set the height on the coillys, then started weight removal of the rear.. should have done the weight removal firsts as now it looks like the nose is diving lol

The progress began on the removal

And what was removed

* Spare wheel - 20kgs
* Tool kit, jack & tray - 5kgs
* Rear wiper - 1kg
* Iso bar - 5kg
* Rear seat belts, bolts, tensions - 6kgs

Could be any where from 35-45 kgs of weight, the weights i have listed above are just a guess from lifting them, could be more or less :S , before any one asks, yes the rear seats are still in, for 2 reasons, firstly i dont want every one to see whats in my boot & finally i dont want the tin noise you get from stripped cars :dapprove: so next on the list is removal of the sound deadning

How it stands now with the arse in the air lol, still looks much nicer than the 4*4 lol

 

[Spongebob 172]

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looking so much nicer mate keep it up dude

 

[Jamesstone]

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Cheers for the Help saturday mate & for scaring the shite out of me with your car lol

We gotta have the sound deadning removal weekend soon mate!

 

[Spongebob 172]

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just thought cant do it for at least 4 weeks as im away on my hols as of next weekend...but could do it over a few evenings in the week this week..i will try and get hold of a heat gun tomorrow