Phase 1 172 v Phase 2 Cup

[ianeire]

I'm just after spotting a Cup for sale over here for in and around the same money that I'd be looking for for my phase 1 172.

Are cups much, if any, better than the Phase 1?

Obviously, thats a pretty subjective question. One mans better is another mans shite, but interested in your opinions . .

 

[Nafoff]

as you posted in my thread...lol

best person to ask is Day mate, he went from a phase 1 172 - cup.

as far as i know i think they are about the same weight etc......can't really help anymore as not driven a cup.

you checked my thread back?, you'll chuckle

 

[Mells]

ph2 ftw! but go ff, none of this poverty spec imo..

 

[theduck]

Cup is lighter so is slightly quicker but at the cost of more poverty spec. Ph1 has cable accelator which is better than the FBW in the Cup. Also Cup has no ABS which if its for use on the road is a bad thing imo.

 

[ianeire]

Just did now reebone!

I might call and take it for a drive. I prefer the phase 1 looks wise to the phase 2. They look much more aggressive, though not as good from the rear!

Basically in the handling and prowess department so there's nothing in it. The RS Clios were never sold over here to trying to actually find one for sale to view and drive anywhere locally is tough!

 

[Charlieboy]

Cup is lighter so is slightly quicker but at the cost of more poverty spec. Ph1 has cable accelator which is better than the FBW in the Cup. Also Cup has no ABS which if its for use on the road is a bad thing imo.

or you could get a cup and get it converted to the phase 1 pedal like I have!!

 

[theduck]

Cup is lighter so is slightly quicker but at the cost of more poverty spec. Ph1 has cable accelator which is better than the FBW in the Cup. Also Cup has no ABS which if its for use on the road is a bad thing imo.

or you could get a cup and get it converted to the phase 1 pedal like I have!!

yes you could but I was comparing the standard cars. The list of ifs buts and maybes is endless.

 

[Gaz_]

Cup is the car i'd have. More modern looking, lovely colour and turinis as standard. I wouldn't miss AC one bit.

 

[ianeire]

Phase 1 172


For maybe this

Phase 2 Cup

 

[Gaz_]

Cup every time for me, well miss mine

 

[theduck]

ph1 172 for me everytime, even if it means I end up having to have a silver car lol

 

[kaz2664]

ive had both and i would say the cup is slightly quicker .dont know if this is because the cup had lower miles and was newer .

 

[Dave Hester]

how old is this thread? I've driven both too and I'd say ph1 is slightly slower until you remove the spare wheel then it's a different story. LOL

 

[Andyman]

ive had both and i would say the cup is slightly quicker .dont know if this is because the cup had lower miles and was newer .

No, nothing to do with it.

Cup will probably ''feel'' quicker due to the gearing

 

[Day]

I'm 75% in favour of the Cup.

We've had some fun times together.

 

[ianeire]

I still have my ph1

 

[ChrisCurr]

Ph1........The original everytime for me.

 

[Ads_172]

The Cup is the better car, but doesn't have the character of the Ph1.

 

[gussy]

ph1 172 all the way

 

[chris_p]

cup. Performance is basically the same on both, only the cup looks more modern, looks more special (imo), and has a better interior.

 

[Dave Hester]

cup. Performance is basically the same on both, only the cup looks more modern, looks more special (imo), and has a better interior.

LOL no way has a cup got better interior, seats are as plain as they come

 

[caister]

PH1 for me. Performance is pretty much identical but it comes with a few mod cons such as aircon which i couldn't do without on a daily driver. I also think the PH1's are getting pretty rare now whereas I always see PH2's.

 

[Ads_172]

Has everyone owned both!?!

 

[jay172cup]

i have! cup hands down compared to my ph1.. handles much better. im getting cup shocks asap!

 

[Ads_172]

I'm the same mate, the Cup is the better car for me. A lot of people saying the Ph1 so just wondering if they've owned both.

 

[caister]

I haven't owned both but I have driven both and the PH1 wins for me just because it has aircon, abs and IMO a nicer interior. If it was going to be just a weekend/track toy then I would get the cup and strip it bare.

 

[Andyman]

i have! cup hands down compared to my ph1.. handles much better. im getting cup shocks asap!

So you mean your swaping the same shocks you have now for some more exactly the same? :S

Difference in handling is down to the offsets on the wheels - 5mm spacers sorts that out





PMSL @ the Cup having a better interior than a ph1, as one lad wrote. Cups got probably the blandest interior a cars ever come with! .....but then its not about creature comforts and toys so.......

 

[Ads_172]

The only part of the Ph1 interior that I prefer are the look of the seats. The layout of the dash, steering wheel, clocks, colour, etc are all better in the cup. IMO of course.

 

[chris_p]

LOL no way has a cup got better interior, seats are as plain as they come

Yeah the seats are plain, but I was talking about the dash layout etc, the ph1 looks seriously old and crap!

 

[Andyman]

Cup dash look more Vag like but its bland as dishwater. Phase 1 has the silver trim, blue dash top, white dials, far far better but thats just my opinion

 

[ianeire]

Listen, the dash of the ph1 is 11 years old since first release! It's bound to look dated, as with most cars of the late 90's. It's a product of it's era!

For what it's worth, I prefer the rear of the ph2 but feel that the front of the ph1 is both far more distinctive and far more aggressive. I would have liked to have tried a Cup at the time I was considering a change but I don't for one minute regret sticking with my ph1 either.

 

[Andyman]

Listen, the dash of the ph1 is 11 years old since first release! It's bound to look dated, as with most cars of the late 90's. It's a product of it's era!

For what it's worth, I prefer the rear of the ph2 but feel that the front of the ph1 is both far more distinctive and far more aggressive. I would have liked to have tried a Cup at the time I was considering a change but I don't for one minute regret sticking with my ph1 either.

And how old are the Cups again? only 2 years newer than the ph1 dohhh

Pointless argument anyway. Its all down to opinions, there isnt a right and a wrong answer

 

[ianeire]

Two years is a long time

 

[Andyman]

Not long enough lol

 

[caister]

I dont think the ph1 interior is that dated. Simple yet fuctional IMO. I dont want 600 buttons and a fussy dash in a small hatchback (I'm not saying the cup does but some cars do these days and I just think its pointless)

 

[gaz44]

PH1 interiors are seriously nasty. The Cup's ain't all that but it's a marked improvement on the PH1. No contest.

 

[AlexS]

I'd have the phase 1 if only for its 'get out of my lane' front end styling, can't beat a nicely polished mondial though and turinis as standard.

 

[caister]

PH1 interiors are seriously nasty. The Cup's ain't all that but it's a marked improvement on the PH1. No contest.

Thats probably why you have a cup and I have a PH1 then. Different Opinions!

 

[jay172cup]

So you mean your swaping the same shocks you have now for some more exactly the same? :S

Difference in handling is down to the offsets on the wheels - 5mm spacers sorts that out

umm cup front shocks are different...

 

[Russ.]

For me i think it would have to be the cup given the choice of the 2. Although given the full list of 1*2 variants to pick from id choose my 182 with cup suspension every time.