Photography Chat and Questions Thread

[Aaron..]

I borrowed one from a camera club member and it made a hell of a difference to my final edits. Also helped my prints, e&W ones as my laptop was very blue.
See if you can get a used one, or maybe if there's a local camera club that has one for its members to use?

 

[Geddes]

They is a couple of people in the class who mentioned of using one, i didn't know that this could be the answer, i spoke to the guy Philip and he thinks i have may of messed up the setting some where but i very much doubt it. It's been like this for quit some time as long as i can remember. I'll ask one or two people in class if i can borrow it even for a very small amount of cash.

looked at the weather forecast for liverpool and tomorrow doesnt look good at all rain pretty much all day and monday looks good but cloudy all day. I'll be taking a note book with me or buy one to take notes on good locations to go too again

 

[Aaron..]

You should still manage to get some decent shots in the rain and if it's cloudy on Monday then that's good for your 10 stop ND.

 

[Geddes]

You should still manage to get some decent shots in the rain and if it's cloudy on Monday then that's good for your 10 stop ND.

Yeah i'm hoping to get a lot of good shots, i really need to slow down when i'm away and be more aware of what's happening around me even on the small things as i tend to walk past them. Experience will get me there. I've got quit a lot of places to go to like, got 8 on my list for eg the Liver Birds, Museum, the docks, titanic memorial, St geroges hall, the library. All a short walk of the hotel. It did put me off the rain as i just looked more rain tomorrow. I'm really hoping to do a long exposure at night of the Wheel all lit up with a bit of water and lit up buildings next door, the wheel is a smaller version of the london one. I'll have a pop round some parks too if i have time.
I'm a bit wary of really getting soaked through and getting rain drops on the ND filter as it no doubt show up on the picture or will photoshop get rid of it? i've got a clear plastic bag to put over the camera like for when it rains
Really looking forward to it.

 

[Aaron..]

Just be weary if its raining too much you'll get drops on your lens. You can get rid of them in post but its a ballache!
The wheel is a fair bit smaller than in London but its still a good shot. Probably best going the other side of the canal (you'll know what I mean when you get there) or the far end of the Echo arena. If there's something on, the arena lights up too I think.

I'd try to get to the top of the Anglican cathedral too if you can, some really nice views from the top although it all depends on the weather. The other cathedral is pretty decent too (Paddy's Wigwam)

Good luck, hopefully you'll get some decent shots.

 

[Geddes]

Just be weary if its raining too much you'll get drops on your lens. You can get rid of them in post but its a ballache!
The wheel is a fair bit smaller than in London but its still a good shot. Probably best going the other side of the canal (you'll know what I mean when you get there) or the far end of the Echo arena. If there's something on, the arena lights up too I think.

I'd try to get to the top of the Anglican cathedral too if you can, some really nice views from the top although it all depends on the weather. The other cathedral is pretty decent too (Paddy's Wigwam)

Good luck, hopefully you'll get some decent shots.

See what happens any way and go with the flow, be really happy if i can get a night shot of the wheel and try and get a sun set shot too on something. Not going for a sun rise lol too early for me.. Should have a bit more experience when the darker nights come around.

one thing i just thought on is the insdie of the buidlings the 24-105 lens with crop sensor might be not wide enough might have to stick my 18-55 kit lens on?

cheers man, no doubt i'll be back there in the next month or two with my nephew to be my bag and tripod handler lol

 

[Geddes]

Also is it worth getting a square filter kit for the camera with graduated filters and big stoppers? I've got a round ND1000 round one SRB brand, but a lot of the photographers use grad ones, or is it personal preference?

 

[Aaron..]

Personal preference on the filter kits. Just be careful with the square ones if you go super wide on your crop (or at 24mm actually on the FF I think) because you'll get the edges of the filter and holder - Of you do go down that route make sure you get the correct one (Cokin do two I think)

 

[Geddes]

hmmm interesting on getting the edges in the view finder like., i'll leave it for another day on this. first thing i need to do is get the monitor calibrated. Should improve the images.

Cheers Aaron :up:

 

[Geddes]

landed from Liverpool yesterday tea time. Was very little cloud during the day on Sunday. A bit too much blue sky a fair few of my shops were over exposed i was changing the expo comp a hell of a lot i was using the histogram later when i realised i could see the pic on the LCD screen if it was over or under exposed. went in the library which was very nice and modern only took a pic on the main stairs and the lovely ceiling. I had to change to my kit lens 18-55 as my 24-105 wasn't suitable. I NEED A WIDE LENS lol. still had to keep my AV quit low like 5.6 area for the shutter speed. was hovering around 60th sec. Went in a couple of other buildings and got a couple pics of a old court room i think where i wasn't suppose to be in there. took a few pics of the main hall too great ceiling too. 2 guys saw me and i got escorted to the main entrance i must of got lost going through of the many doors. They were fine like about it. Didn't get a pic of the night shots as it was raining and the wheel wasn't lit up and was closed before the dark came. So headed back to hotel before dark. Took loads by the dock and got a few architecture shots not the greatest but first time on this thing. i was still kind of rushing around a little. Monday was the best for lighting. I felt a little akward taking pics of stuff and people looking at me, i was taking pics of some quit nice zig zag stairs in the street and i heard this lad behing me laughing. I wasn't sure if it was at me like.
Was a ok trip out like i wasn't there longer than i thought i would. Think my next trip will have less things to do and concentrate more on that and spend enough time there and no rushing about.

Also was heading back to the hotel and i wasstill in the docks and saw a fist fight 2 lads a taki bloke and a guy from another car fighting on the main road and on the path traffic was stopped and a bus driver was kind of trying to stop it. He shouted is noone going to help me or what. Im anaged to get closer as i was quit fair back got zoomed in and took just a one shot and came out quit well lol. I'll get it yuked on here

 

[Geddes]

Liverpool Fight, from what i saw was more like girly stuff, grabbing was the odd punch. When i got closer was pretty much over. If it wasn't in the streets probably have been much worse,

 

[Aaron..]

Haha well caught!

 

[Geddes]

The guy in the suit i'm possitive was a Beemar driver and the guy in the shorts was the taxi driver. The bus driver is priceless on his expression "Haway is anyone going to help me" lol or along those lines

Where i stopped in the hotel the lasses in there oh my, proper strong accents very very nice :blush:

 

[Geddes]

Just picked up my picture to get printed, mounted and framed. When i was there he said, a lot of people in the shop been looking at it, said it was nice and that. One of them said did you take that, he said no i wish. He also said it's better than some of these that's in the shop.
I'm quit chuffed. He said come back in a month or two and see if there's space in shop to put some of mine up. He takes 30% of the dosh. No idea on what sort of sizes and prices to charge when the ball get's rolling.

 

[Aaron..]

Which picture?

 

[Geddes]

Which picture?

This one, it was stretched a little and the sky was cropped a little as i wanted to make it more rectangular (panoramic style :smile: i just measured it everything it works out at 21"x 29"

 

[GazzaKnight]

Had my first proper go at editing a picture today, here is my end product:

First attempt by Garry Knight, on Flickr

Anyone know How i could have a go at reducing the sun reflections on the rear quarter? also a small one above front arch as well.
Grass reflection also makes car look dirty. In hindsight lots I would change during shooting but all I have for now!

 

[Aaron..]

Just ordered the Zenitar 16mm 2.8 - should be here for July 1st in time for my trip to Cornwall. Not sure if I'll get stung for import duties but even if I do, it's still a bloody cheap lens.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=161611068446&alt=web

Going to sell my Sigma 10-20 and my Canon 550d as I'm not using them so the lens is paid for.

 

[Geddes]

Just ordered the Zenitar 16mm 2.8 - should be here for July 1st in time for my trip to Cornwall. Not sure if I'll get stung for import duties but even if I do, it's still a bloody cheap lens.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=161611068446&alt=web

Going to sell my Sigma 10-20 and my Canon 550d as I'm not using them so the lens is paid for.

How much you wanting for the 10-20mm Aaron, I'm thinking of getting a second hand lens and later on get a Canon 17-40mm when I get more cash.

 

[Aaron..]

I've not thought about it much but they are going on eBay for around 170-200.
My mate has said he's interested if I do sell it but I'll be asking him later when he intends to buy it.
If it's still there and you're interested, I'll give you second refusal if you want.

 

[Geddes]

I've not thought about it much but they are going on eBay for around 170-200.
My mate has said he's interested if I do sell it but I'll be asking him later when he intends to buy it.
If it's still there and you're interested, I'll give you second refusal if you want.

Didn't realise how much they go still on second hand i think i'll just leave it and get a new one. Still only half way there to get a new one. But thanks anyway

I'm buying time to get rid of my 500D too and would like to get the 6D or the 5D3 when it goes down in price when the newer models eventually comes out.

 

[Aaron..]

I think they are about 350 new. Lenses hold their price.
If you are going to go full frame then I'd not bother getting a new wide (ie the 10-20) lens for you crop as it's unlikely to work with your new body. I'm not convinced you'll see much of a drop in price for the 5

 

[Geddes]

I think they are about 350 new. Lenses hold their price.
If you are going to go full frame then I'd not bother getting a new wide (ie the 10-20) lens for you crop as it's unlikely to work with your new body. I'm not convinced you'll see much of a drop in price for the 5

Yeah from what people have been saying on here and looking online they do which is good like for a selling point of view not buying lol as you want it cheap :smile: The 6 will do me but the 5 having duel slots and more focus point system would be nice to go for like. Plus the 5 is 100% and the 6 is 97% as in the frame i don't what the term is called. It is annoying when you take a shot and it comes out slightly different on the lcd display than the fiew finder

thr 5 is going for £1.5k and the 6 is going for £900 on this site online, has anyone seen it cheaper? My mate's dad is tempted on mine when i'm selling it. He wanted mine for under £200 which i said no i've seen it more than that on ebay. mines the 500D under a 1000k shots taken apart from a small sctach on the display it's like new

 

[Lal B3N]

Can anyone recommend a good lense for some outdoor photography of a city? Going to Paris with work and they want me to take some decent photos.

Currently got a Canon 350d with a 50mm lense and the standard 18-55mm one.

Any recommendations?

 

[Aaron..]

Sigma 10-20 is a decent wide lens built for crop bodies.
You might be OK with your kit lens at 18mm depending what you are trying to get shots of. I've never been to Paris so I don't know how built up it is.

If you can, I'd try to get the 10-20 which will be a safe bet and take your other lenses.

 

[Geddes]

I can't really wait for this any longer the monitor calibration (spyder) of the lass from class be another couple of weeks maybe in September next time i'll possibly see her. Is it worth just getting one online as by the sounds of it it needs doing a couple times a year.

And been thinking about getting Lightroom 6 as the Elements 11 has done me well and still keep it but i need something with a bit more oumph. After seeing some videos on youtube and some of your pics, i think getting Lightroom i think my pictures will go up a notch

There's £200 or less

 

[Aaron..]

Lightroom as a standalone unit from now on will only get very basic updates, new versions will obviously come out with the updates but you'll have to buy it again.
Try adobe creative cloud. You can get Lightroom and photoshop combined for £8 per month and you will get the full updates when they are released.
As for getting a spyder, it would be worth buying one just incase you change monitors etc.

 

[Geddes]

My Picture in the Journal 16.06.2015 by Mark Geddes, on Flickr
one of my pictures ended up in the Journal on the 16th June , i didn't know it was in it until my parents told me about it. I sent 2 more pics to the papers and TV people by email by very rarely get a response of them.
I did notice on the bottom of the feature if you ring this number you can but pictures of them, would be nice if they can give me some of the money 😧

 

[Tonys]

My Picture in the Journal 16.06.2015 by Mark Geddes, on Flickr
one of my pictures ended up in the Journal on the 16th June , i didn't know it was in it until my parents told me about it. I sent 2 more pics to the papers and TV people by email by very rarely get a response of them.
I did notice on the bottom of the feature if you ring this number you can but pictures of them, would be nice if they can give me some of the money 😧

So your giving your photos to a paper to sell?

 

[Geddes]

So your giving your photos to a paper to sell?

I didn't even know when i saw the paper for myself today i was shocked when i saw it at the bottom of the paper, ring this number and you can buy the pictures featured. I'm going to stop sending my pictures to papers now i think. Better off getting money in my pocket than theirs.

 

[Aaron..]

New lens turned up today. Very surprised with the delivery speed, just over a week from Moscow. £99 & £17 p+p. Its not much bigger than a 50mm 1.8, not that heavy, very smooth operation of the aperture ring. Looking forward to testing it out properly at night.


TwentySix/FiftyTwo - Soviet Glass by Aaron, on Flickr

 

[Geddes]

What's the spec on it Aaron? Is it a wide angle lens?

 

[Aaron..]

Yeah sorry, its a f2.8-16, 16mm. Full manual functions though but that's fine for the purpose that I got it for.

 

[Geddes]

Russian built to last eh, looks good like. Getting use to the manual functions will be a mission will it?

Had my last class of this term tonight, had to show my 5 portfolio pics 1 for each different topic. Next term class is in September for another 10 week session which i'm 60/40% of going again.

I would like to get better and take better pictures and get a proper portfolio and set up my own website.

 

[Geddes]

By the Rocks at Shields by Mark Geddes, on Flickr
I have no idea why my pics look so different esp this one. It looks like a painting, i've been doing the editing on emelents 11 and been editing them as i should be doing it. Is it due to the ND big stopper filter or my camera? i'm clueless. Could be down to the water splashing over the rocks, confusing the camera??

 

[Dredz06]

Nice pic Gedi, I've ventured into this thread but never really commented, The other half bought me a bridge camera for my birthday as I've been wanting to get into photography for a while but have never made the step. I'l be buying a SLR very soon, I'm amazed at some of the shots the bridge takes and can't wait to see how much better an SLR would be.

 

[Aaron..]

By the Rocks at Shields by Mark Geddes, on Flickr
I have no idea why my pics look so different esp this one. It looks like a painting, i've been doing the editing on emelents 11 and been editing them as i should be doing it. Is it due to the ND big stopper filter or my camera? i'm clueless. Could be down to the water splashing over the rocks, confusing the camera??

I assume you are talking about the water near the bottom of the frame? It's 100% down to the ND filter and nothing to do with the editing, in my opinion. It's a 2 second exposure so you will get most of the movement. If you had left it for 30 seconds you would have just had a flat sea. It's a good shot.
Post the original, unedited, I assume it will be the same, just in colour.

 

[Geddes]

I assume you are talking about the water near the bottom of the frame? It's 100% down to the ND filter and nothing to do with the editing, in my opinion. It's a 2 second exposure so you will get most of the movement. If you had left it for 30 seconds you would have just had a flat sea. It's a good shot.
Post the original, unedited, I assume it will be the same, just in colour.

No Aaron, not the sense of motion of the water. Just if i zoom in quit a bit and a general look of the pic without zooming it doesn't look right, it isn't sharp. I know it's a RAW image and the editing is where it's done to get the best out of it. I just don't think i have got the best out of it.
I do know that my ND filter has got smudge marks on the inside of the filter pretty much all the way round where i have been rubbing in with my proper lens cloth to get rid of the dust particles but i made it worse and the other side of it is ok, maybe this is why. maybe i don't know what i'm doing on the editing stage after all.
Also what settings have you got your camera on the picture style? Standard, Neutral???? At the minute i got it on Neutral

I'll post the original if not i'll send a direct message

 

[Geddes]

Nice pic Gedi, I've ventured into this thread but never really commented, The other half bought me a bridge camera for my birthday as I've been wanting to get into photography for a while but have never made the step. I'l be buying a SLR very soon, I'm amazed at some of the shots the bridge takes and can't wait to see how much better an SLR would be.

Alright, thanks but i'm quit fussy lol still improvements to be made. My flat mate has a brdige camera Nikon but i've noticed it's quit limited on camera settings on functions than my 500D. never looked back at my 500D i'm still amazed and pleased i got the right camera it's done me very well indeed. Still only done 9300 still photos too and it's 4 years old. You'll be pleased to go for a DSLR. A lass at my photography class had a bridge but ended getting a DSLR a few months after getting it at it limited her to what she can do with it. She ended up getting a Canon 100D iirc or the 1000D

 

[Aaron..]

I have my camera on standard or a custom monochrome setting, but only so I can see what it will look like in mono the way I edit. They only apply when you are shooting jpeg as far as I'm aware and have no effect on the raw setting but I could be wrong.

I'll have a look at your image later when I'm back on my laptop but maybe it's over edited/ wasn't properly in focus? I know I've had a few issues with mine being soft when using the ND on the 24-105, I think I knock the focus ring a bit. It looks fine on my phone though.