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**Problems guys please HELP!!** TheSloth - my first self build.
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seb
ClioSport Club Member
Clio trophy
ok tried a few things recommended to me.
1. reset the cable to HD/MOBO - did this made no change. still got blue screen.
2. boot to the recovery console and run chkdsk /p
this found one fault. f**k knows what it is.
then ran chkdsk /r as this was meant to find any faults form the above chkdsk /p... chkdsk /r found nothing.
then ran bootcfg /scan. this only confirmed i had one version of windows installed. no other info given.
The only thing was chkdsk /r took ages to complete. it went like this:
checking the volume....
performing additional checking or recovery . . .
performing additional checking or recovery . . .
performing additional checking or recovery . . .
then took quite a while ot go up to 70% the nwent back to 50% and took approx 40 minutes to get to 73% where ti then finished but with no text re any faults.
Saying i am stumped is not the word!
I am going to try another O/S so i can either rule out software or a hardware fault. if another O/S works, then i know my XP funked up. If i get the same i know i have a hardware issue!
well thats my reasoning...
i am
1. reset the cable to HD/MOBO - did this made no change. still got blue screen.
2. boot to the recovery console and run chkdsk /p
this found one fault. f**k knows what it is.
then ran chkdsk /r as this was meant to find any faults form the above chkdsk /p... chkdsk /r found nothing.
then ran bootcfg /scan. this only confirmed i had one version of windows installed. no other info given.
The only thing was chkdsk /r took ages to complete. it went like this:
checking the volume....
performing additional checking or recovery . . .
performing additional checking or recovery . . .
performing additional checking or recovery . . .
then took quite a while ot go up to 70% the nwent back to 50% and took approx 40 minutes to get to 73% where ti then finished but with no text re any faults.
Saying i am stumped is not the word!
I am going to try another O/S so i can either rule out software or a hardware fault. if another O/S works, then i know my XP funked up. If i get the same i know i have a hardware issue!
well thats my reasoning...
i am
seb
ClioSport Club Member
Clio trophy
i spoke to griff about this. griff told me some people go on about the sata drivers not being installed properly... but to my knowledge i had no idea i had to install drivers for it as i beleived it was all plug and play.
are you runnning the primary hd from raid partition? i had similar issues because my SATA RAID wasn't setup right. - how do i do that?
are you runnning the primary hd from raid partition? i had similar issues because my SATA RAID wasn't setup right. - how do i do that?
Not a Clio
BMW e46 320 Ci Sport
it does.
I would do the following as i have experienced very similar issues with my SATA Raptor drive on my motherboard.
Firstly, remove all other devices, CD-Rom's other HDD's etc.
Then go into the bios, - you will need to find the section which allows you to choose bootup options. In there you will find options like PATA+SATA, SATA only PATA only. and then you will have options to choose which is master and which is slave etc.
Try initally adjusting it to SATA only and making sure the drive you have is set to master drive.
Then reboot and see what happens. Also i hope you've got the Hard drive physically set to master as well...
also FYI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks
ALSO if you are managing to boot from CD, when it loads up, like almost instantly it says hit F6 to loads SATA drivers from a floppy. you will of course need to do this so that windows recognises that drive. Try that before any of the above.
I would do the following as i have experienced very similar issues with my SATA Raptor drive on my motherboard.
Firstly, remove all other devices, CD-Rom's other HDD's etc.
Then go into the bios, - you will need to find the section which allows you to choose bootup options. In there you will find options like PATA+SATA, SATA only PATA only. and then you will have options to choose which is master and which is slave etc.
Try initally adjusting it to SATA only and making sure the drive you have is set to master drive.
Then reboot and see what happens. Also i hope you've got the Hard drive physically set to master as well...
also FYI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks
ALSO if you are managing to boot from CD, when it loads up, like almost instantly it says hit F6 to loads SATA drivers from a floppy. you will of course need to do this so that windows recognises that drive. Try that before any of the above.
BMW e46 320 Ci Sport
yeh more than likely although i haven't done a vista install yet so i'm not sure on this one, someone else might be able to give you a hand on that.
The thing about issues like these is you'll have to troublshoot it with trial and error. If vista isn't working try instlling XP as we've said, if that works then you know vista is the issue, if it doesn't then it's your hardware setup or possibly the config in your bios as i've suggested.
The thing about issues like these is you'll have to troublshoot it with trial and error. If vista isn't working try instlling XP as we've said, if that works then you know vista is the issue, if it doesn't then it's your hardware setup or possibly the config in your bios as i've suggested.
seb
ClioSport Club Member
Clio trophy
Please excuse me, i am quite confused now.
Is this when i use the XP Cd to boot from and install? Like when i did it all first time around?
I don't have a floppy drive and i didn't get any CD/floppy with my HD... so i presume i'd need to put these on to CD from the internet so i could install the drivers?
seb
ClioSport Club Member
Clio trophy
ok, i have only installed XP at this time. I was going ot try VISTA somepoint soonish so i could see if it was a hardware or software issue.
BMW e46 320 Ci Sport
Right. If you are instlaling XP. It will say
Press a key to boot from CD, you do. Then it says SETUP is inspecting your computer something like that. Then you get a blue screen with stuff happening at the bottom, it's written as text, one of these messages is press F6 to load SATA drivers. You do.
If your motherboard is capable of SATA it's very likely that it will have come with some sort of driver disc. Do you have that? XP needs it.
Press a key to boot from CD, you do. Then it says SETUP is inspecting your computer something like that. Then you get a blue screen with stuff happening at the bottom, it's written as text, one of these messages is press F6 to load SATA drivers. You do.
If your motherboard is capable of SATA it's very likely that it will have come with some sort of driver disc. Do you have that? XP needs it.
seb
ClioSport Club Member
Clio trophy
yeah i have a driver disc with the mobo.
from reading the manual it seems it instalsl all the drivers once XP is installed. It shows soem picutres of it and form what it sohws it has graphics etc on it so i presume this is done in windows. or will this cd also work in the blue screen set up?
also it gives options of sata/raid 32 bit drivers or 64bit drivers. which one should i go for?
from reading the manual it seems it instalsl all the drivers once XP is installed. It shows soem picutres of it and form what it sohws it has graphics etc on it so i presume this is done in windows. or will this cd also work in the blue screen set up?
also it gives options of sata/raid 32 bit drivers or 64bit drivers. which one should i go for?
BMW e46 320 Ci Sport
i've just read a bit more about the error you had. your saying XP was installed ok and then blue screened....and now it says no bootable devices. I tihnk you should takcle this from a different perspective, perhaps ask griff or a mate to lend you a sh1tty hdd and see if it's the hdd thats got f**ked. if it's the same issue, i think it might be the ram, try using only 1 ram chip.
Turbo'd MX-5 MK4
when I built my new PC recently, I plugged the SATA drive into the motherboard, booted the VISTA CD up expecting to have to enter in the SATA controller driver and it didn't need it. Its sounds to me like the HDD itself may be dodgy, I think trying to source another one to test is a good idea.
seb
ClioSport Club Member
Clio trophy
well what ever the problem was it has been solved (for now...)
yes all this RAID business got me confused since i only have 1 HD.
Basically reformatted and put XP back on. Got SP2 downloaded and installed and restarted with baited breath.
it came back into windows with no blue screen!
I have now fully updated XP and have a different A/V installed.
ME and Griff seem to think that the only time i got this blue screen was after installing NOD32 and doing the restart. I could never go back to get rid due to the blue screen.
I now have Kaspersky A/V and it restarted fine.
Griff was of the opinion NOD32 may well do checks as the PC is loading up prior to windows so this may have caused some issues.
So i am posting this from my new computer!
However, my stomach still turns whenever i restart it at present, but it has doen about 6 restarts and no problems so i am kinda pleased.
Just got to sort out the drivers for the graphics card and i think i am there!
Cheers for everyone giving me advice, i really appreciate it.
Especially Griff who i have bene speaking to on the telephone pretty much constantly over the last few days. I expect my invoice from him soon!
I'll give another update soonish as i have work etc later.
I'll do somegeek tests to see what the PC is like performance wise andi may even post a picture of the magical black box for you all.
I'll also do a quick run though of my last few days for allthe peopel considering doing this build your own PC quest. Just give you my noob opinion on it all, what i found hard/easy/impossible.
At present i am very pleased.... this could however change... you know what PC's are like!
yes all this RAID business got me confused since i only have 1 HD.
Basically reformatted and put XP back on. Got SP2 downloaded and installed and restarted with baited breath.
it came back into windows with no blue screen!
I have now fully updated XP and have a different A/V installed.
ME and Griff seem to think that the only time i got this blue screen was after installing NOD32 and doing the restart. I could never go back to get rid due to the blue screen.
I now have Kaspersky A/V and it restarted fine.
Griff was of the opinion NOD32 may well do checks as the PC is loading up prior to windows so this may have caused some issues.
So i am posting this from my new computer!
However, my stomach still turns whenever i restart it at present, but it has doen about 6 restarts and no problems so i am kinda pleased.
Just got to sort out the drivers for the graphics card and i think i am there!
Cheers for everyone giving me advice, i really appreciate it.
Especially Griff who i have bene speaking to on the telephone pretty much constantly over the last few days. I expect my invoice from him soon!
I'll give another update soonish as i have work etc later.
I'll do somegeek tests to see what the PC is like performance wise andi may even post a picture of the magical black box for you all.
I'll also do a quick run though of my last few days for allthe peopel considering doing this build your own PC quest. Just give you my noob opinion on it all, what i found hard/easy/impossible.
At present i am very pleased.... this could however change... you know what PC's are like!
172 Cup
Seb - "Griff, it's Seb again.. What's a benchmark.."
Griff - "You again? I told you not to call this number anymore......!!!"
Only joking matey.
seb
ClioSport Club Member
Clio trophy
lol @ griff
I will be doing a benchtest for you guys, (i will download the software tomorrow as it is like 500mb... got work in an hour.)
Plus i will take some geek shots when i tidy up the cables tomorrow.
Mike - it ain't as difficult as it seems, you just need some patience and a few knowledgeable friends!
to be honest, Griff reckoned my problem was really fooking weird and he had never seen it beofre. luckily we worked though it!
I will be doing a benchtest for you guys, (i will download the software tomorrow as it is like 500mb... got work in an hour.)
Plus i will take some geek shots when i tidy up the cables tomorrow.
Mike - it ain't as difficult as it seems, you just need some patience and a few knowledgeable friends!
to be honest, Griff reckoned my problem was really fooking weird and he had never seen it beofre. luckily we worked though it!
Seb - "Griff, it's Seb again.. What's a benchmark.."
Griff - "You again? I told you not to call this number anymore......!!!"
lmfao :rasp::rasp::star::star:
A4 Avant & A3
Congratulations on your first PC build
Shame it was such a pain, but at least you go it sorted.
Nice work!
Shame it was such a pain, but at least you go it sorted.
Nice work!
seb
ClioSport Club Member
Clio trophy
UPDATE
Ok, ran 3Dmark06
my score is: 7649
Not too shabby really in my eyes.
So how did my build go then? Well it only took about 3 hours to unwrap it all, poke it, look at it, read the manuals and then peice it together. The actual build was relatively stress free. Only issue was the thermal paste! lol
It is quite confusing with all the cables but you can't go wrong if you read ther manuals and take heed of their advice. plain sailing really. The best bit of advice i had was to just take my time and i would whole heartedly agree with this.
Being a noob i was a bit clumsy with a few things. for example, trying to screw the mobo to the side of the PC was difficult but only took a few failed attempts and it was sorted.
The main problem i had was obviously well documentated within this thread. The dreaded blue screen. This caused me much stress outs as i was constantly thinking about how and what i could do to get around it. Luckily, i (well Griff and me... mainly Griff tbh..) managed to solve it after trying many different options.
I think the software area will always be a problem as bolting it together, imo, is quite easy. Having these issues has made me learn quite a lot as i have to fiddle about with various bits and peices in bios etc etc. I think it also shows, with a bit of help form some techno dudes, your trusty friend Google and geek forums, any wierd problem can be overcome!
Would i recommend doing a self build to a noob? Yeah i reckon i would. If you are a complete computer leper and have no idea how to even turn one on, i would stay away, as seeing all the bits and peices in front of you is very daunting. But if you have tinkered a bit (i had only previously added some ram, graphics card and done a format.) i am sure many would relish the challenge! just be prepared for a few 'issues'.
I don't think nowadays building your PC is that much cheaper, if at all, from buying a pre made one. It does however give you the choice of which components you want and you can be sure you have quality. It also ensures you don't get a load of crap add on software from the start. I have finally got rid of AOL for good! and that can only be a good thing!!!
Better go buy some cool games now - command and conquer here i come!
Only final thing i have to do is get some zip ties so i can tidy up the inside. Then i am done!
Ok, ran 3Dmark06
my score is: 7649
Not too shabby really in my eyes.
So how did my build go then? Well it only took about 3 hours to unwrap it all, poke it, look at it, read the manuals and then peice it together. The actual build was relatively stress free. Only issue was the thermal paste! lol
It is quite confusing with all the cables but you can't go wrong if you read ther manuals and take heed of their advice. plain sailing really. The best bit of advice i had was to just take my time and i would whole heartedly agree with this.
Being a noob i was a bit clumsy with a few things. for example, trying to screw the mobo to the side of the PC was difficult but only took a few failed attempts and it was sorted.
The main problem i had was obviously well documentated within this thread. The dreaded blue screen. This caused me much stress outs as i was constantly thinking about how and what i could do to get around it. Luckily, i (well Griff and me... mainly Griff tbh..) managed to solve it after trying many different options.
I think the software area will always be a problem as bolting it together, imo, is quite easy. Having these issues has made me learn quite a lot as i have to fiddle about with various bits and peices in bios etc etc. I think it also shows, with a bit of help form some techno dudes, your trusty friend Google and geek forums, any wierd problem can be overcome!
Would i recommend doing a self build to a noob? Yeah i reckon i would. If you are a complete computer leper and have no idea how to even turn one on, i would stay away, as seeing all the bits and peices in front of you is very daunting. But if you have tinkered a bit (i had only previously added some ram, graphics card and done a format.) i am sure many would relish the challenge! just be prepared for a few 'issues'.
I don't think nowadays building your PC is that much cheaper, if at all, from buying a pre made one. It does however give you the choice of which components you want and you can be sure you have quality. It also ensures you don't get a load of crap add on software from the start. I have finally got rid of AOL for good!
and that can only be a good thing!!!Better go buy some cool games now - command and conquer here i come!
Only final thing i have to do is get some zip ties so i can tidy up the inside. Then i am done!
