project 172wenty valve

[wocka]

yup guys!!! finaly a new project, u may have seen my odyssey ph1 which is my daily

anyway heres my new project, a PB ph1, if u havent clicked by the project name....its going to have a VAG 1.8 20v turbo engine fitted, i already have this lol got myself a AGU engine which is ment to be one of the better ones as it has bigger ported head and forged crank, im not too clued up on these engines so hope im right lol. i have also sorced a ko4 turbo which im yet to pick up.
This will be a slow build as some things im unsure of and i dont want to rush.

i started stripping it tonite, started with the cosmetics and put stuff up for sale. i will be updating this daily and please post ur coments.

everything i dont need will be sold. thanks for looking

 

[PP200t]

Bloody hell, what an awesome project!! Would love the time/money/ability to do something like this!!

 

[Stu.]

Awesome!! Is that the PB 172 off ebay with the knocking depahser and very cheap?

 

[wocka]

i hope it all goes to plan but running the daily and the missus will slow the project right down lol measured up for front mount earlier aswel, not much room lol

 

[wocka]

it was off someone i knew as a not runner so yes it was cheap but not off ebay

 

[Stu.]

payton on here? lol This will be an epic build

 

[couzens]

please get a carbon bonnet and sell me yours!

 

[wocka]

oh yeah it is paytons, didnt kno it was on ebay, was cambelt failure.

i want a carbon bonnet matey but this one isnt alloy wel its not as light as the oddy bonnet, no where near and the oddy is ally

 

[Stu.]

nah his was'nt on ebay, I was talking to him before about geting it but by the time transport was paid for etc wasnt really worth it! Black ph1 ftw

 

[couzens]

i dont care if its not alloy, i just need a decent bonnet! mines a dog. keep me in mind if you change soon. looking foward to the progress

 

[wocka]

it looks like tha lad hu had it has painted somthing on it, its covered in overspray but i will attemp to mop out. i am 100& having a carbon bonnet so pm me about urs as it doesnt matter whats on mine for now the car was going white but i have decided to stay black, its being completly painted inside and out with black wheels, prob the willys depending on the size on the front brakes

 

[wocka]

rad, aircon rad and fan removed, a few aircon pipes and hoses too.....ball ache haha

 

[wocka]

Intercooler has arived. Picking up ko4 and g60 flywheel the weekend hopefully

 

[105e]

Keep the pictures coming, i would quite like to do the vag swap but want to keep it as an everyday car with full interior including dash with a working speedo.

 

[wocka]

Yeah mate, will b constant updates. Mine will just be a weekend toy hehe

 

[Russ_16v]

looking good mate, though after experiencing a few, id get a KO3S hybrid, rather than a KO4, as with the KO4 you will need an Audi TT/Leon Cupra R inlet manifold, plus all boost pipes due to how the turbo is mounted - getting a ko3s hybrid will offer more power than the KO4, it will spool up faster and will fit with all the gubbins you will have on the AGU.

If you need any bits, give me a shout, im a Parts manager for VW

 

[bengtt5]

he wont need the inlet and i imagine all the boost pipework will be custom anyway

 

[wocka]

gona stick with the ko4 as its off my mate so cheap, cheers for info guys. yeah sticking with standard inlet but 380cc injectors.

russ 16v....im sure there will be parts along the line i need so do u mind me having ur number? pm me?

 

[Gildstar]

Subscribed , soo looking forward to the outcome !

 

[batesey]

look forward to seeing this develop!

 

[wocka]

Cheers guys, me too lol

 

[wocka]

Im so confused with these engine, everyone says diff things. Does anyone know what power a AGU engine can take??

 

[105e]

Dont know what it can take but it can produce big power as it has the large port cyl head, also has the larger gudgeon pin, 20mm as opposed to 19mm i believe,

 

[wocka]

I will let u know what power it blows up at haha

 

[Russ_16v]

The AGU has a better head then the later engines, but IMO the limiting factor with power will be con rods, to go above 300lb ft reliably you want home decent H pattern rods.

Bear in mind though the KO4 won't give any more than about 280bhp, so you should be ok.

With a KO4, decent pipework and a good intercooler, you should see a genuine reliable 260-270bhp with 250+ torque (as long as you can keep intake temps down) which in an 1100kg car should be plenty good fun.

You probably could eek a bit more power out of it, but again IMO the Ko4 will be maxxed right out, and for reliablity, and for drivability id have the boost a little lower and it be safe

 

[wocka]

Cheers russ, brilliant info. The car will be completly gutted out and weigh as least as poss so yeah bloody good gun hehe

 

[dicko]

as for the engines ive had an ibiza 20vt which is 150hp as standard (not to sure on engine code) that made 369hp on a totally stock engine but with some big injectors, ihi vf34 turbo conversion, jabba sport ceramic manifold, custom cooler and boost pipes running on dta pro management.

Then i had a leon cuprs r 225 bam engine which was fully forged etc running gt28rs and that made 350hp

 

[wocka]

369 on standard internals :0 sounds inpressive so does the forged 225

Got loads done tonight, pics up later

 

[ElkWorks]

may drop round at the weekend and have a gander at this boyo

 

[wocka]

Ur more than welcome ant bring the clio!

 

[Cupman29]

Very interesting indeed! I'll keep checking up on your progress mate.

Something a bit different for a change.

 

[Russ_16v]

as for the engines ive had an ibiza 20vt which is 150hp as standard (not to sure on engine code) that made 369hp on a totally stock engine but with some big injectors, ihi vf34 turbo conversion, jabba sport ceramic manifold, custom cooler and boost pipes running on dta pro management.

Then i had a leon cuprs r 225 bam engine which was fully forged etc running gt28rs and that made 350hp

you sir are very brave!!

iv seen them bend rods at 310bhp

 

[wocka]

I think i will get some rods for mine. Best way

 

[dicko]

you sir are very brave!!

iv seen them bend rods at 310bhp

it was all done when i got the car lol and its still going now

 

[wocka]

Thats brilliant, bet it shifted ay mate

 

[dmallett]

Love black ph1s! My neighbour had a 1.8t lump running just under 250bhp in an ibiza, was very quick!

 

[wocka]

Be good wen its on the road, prob next year lol but hopefully sooner. Loads to do

 

[Paul C]

Good luck with the project! Will be a fun toy!!

 

[wocka]

Thanks mate

 

[James105]

Great project! Will be keeping an eye for sure. I'm putting the same lump into my Mk1 golf at some point soon hopefully, so might be able to pick up a trick or two!
Look forward to the updates