Quick web design question

[TwoSugars]

Hey all,

I'm trying to make a simple web site for a friend. I am using frame (I know some folk don't like these but they seem to be the simplest solution to what I need).

Basically, I have a web page with a top fram and a bottom frame. The top frame will be used as a header and the bottom frame as a body. However, when I resize the browser window, the dividing boader between top and bottom moves and either creates a huge gap or covers the header depending on if I resize the window to be bigger or smaller. Is there anyway to stop this?

Cheers,
TS

 

[Daz]

You shouldn't use frames, at all, ever.

Solution is, don't use frames

 

[TwoSugars]

Right...lol.

Bearing in mind I am not a web desinger, how else would you achieve this effect? Basically, all I want is to not have to change every page if I want to amend 1 link in the header.

Cheers,
-TS

 

[Daz]

http://www.html4newbies.com/header_footer_tip.php



PHP would be my preference, but then, I like PHP

 

[TwoSugars]

Cool, I understand how to do it in php now then. However, how do I do things like edit the width and hieght of the header and footer?

 

[Daz]

It's just HTML code, inserted at the include mark.

So, if you use <div> for the footer for example, you set the size of that <div> in CSS.

http://www.aglasshalffull.org/css-resources/Change-Div-Size-Color-and-Location-with-the-W3C-DOM.htm

Will help etc.

 

[KDF]

http://www.html4newbies.com/header_footer_tip.php



PHP would be my preference, but then, I like PHP

PHP FTW !

 

[Daz]

http://www.html4newbies.com/header_footer_tip.php



PHP would be my preference, but then, I like PHP

PHP FTW !

You sound like you know what you're talking about.
172.eu bangs on about ASP all day long :boring:

 

[Rob]

PHP? A little OTT maybe? Just use CSS and lay it out using div's... But thats just my two pence worth

 

[Daz]

PHP? A little OTT maybe? Just use CSS and lay it out using div's... But thats just my two pence worth

But that's not going to solve his problem.
Read the problem..

 

[Rob]

Must learn to read whole first post before assuming i know the answer....

*Bows to the greatness*

 

[Daz]

:rasp:

 

[TwoSugars]

It's just HTML code, inserted at the include mark.

So, if you use <div> for the footer for example, you set the size of that <div> in CSS.

http://www.aglasshalffull.org/css-resources/Change-Div-Size-Color-and-Location-with-the-W3C-DOM.htm

Will help etc.

Right, this is where I start to get scared, CSS is hard to get your head around!

 

[172.com]

PHP FTW !

You sound like you know what you're talking about.
172.eu bangs on about ASP all day long :boring:

You're introducing him to bad things. If you show someone the wrong way of doing something the first time, chances are they'll keep making the same mistakes.

ASPFTWBBQ.

Oh and Hi!

 

[KDF]

asp is for kiddies..




Just for info the site Daz linked gives you the include() function, but you should really use include_once(); that way even if you accidently declare it twice in the same page it wont appear twice

Also, include will not generate an error if the file cannot be found/used. which is probably best for a header and footer but for something more important you should use require() and require_once().

 

[sn00p]

Everytime you use ASP, god kills a kitten. fact.

It's bad, wrong and dirty. It'll make you short sighted and give you hairy palms.

So in short, ASP is bad. Don't use it. PHP r0x0rz.

 

[furry_cup]

use a php include matey.

 

[Daz]

Heh.

 

[172.com]

No love for the ASP. Hell, I'm a sheep...


PHP r0ckz0rz.

 

[cava83]

Both ASP and PHP have their advantages and dissadvantages.

When I started, I decided to use PHP as I was using apache, seemed the logical method to follow. When I got my first IT job, ASP was the only language used, so had to learn that, and to be honest, I liked it, sometimes.

ASP.net was much better.

PHP is excellent too.

Really depends on the individual and the job requirements.

But you've done an excellent thing, asking in a forum and getting everyones points of view and suggestions into how to tackle the same problem.

Best of luck,

G.

 

[TwoSugars]

Cheers for all the help people!

A quick question, can I create and test PHP files on my computer or will need to upload them to a php compatible web server?

 

[cava83]

you can test it on your comp.

Either install apache which is excellent, or install IIS which is microsofts equivelant and enable php on it.

WAMP is an excellent tool, it pre-configures everything for you really* with all the correct modifications etc

http://www.wampserver.com/en/

and it's free.

Either way you can do it.

 

[TwoSugars]

Sorry, just another quick question. In Dreamweaver, is there anyway to edit the boarders of a table? Basically, I'd like to set it out using tables but i'd like to make parts of the table have no visible boarders, much like you can in MS Word.

Cheers,
TS