RSTuning live mapping with the new RR?

[len_beach]

Will you be dabbling in full live mapping when the rollers arrive Paul?

 

[pusherman]

i'm planning to get an rs tuning remap when the rollers arive from australia

 

[Ali]

Doubt it. Fine tuning maybe...But i remember him sayin he had a reason for not live mapping.

 

[lasbazrre]

Doubt it. Fine tuning maybe...But i remember him sayin he had a reason for not live mapping.

Yes , " i'm not gonna be live as such " so fine tuning it is then!

Just had a pm off Paul!

leon

 

[RSTuning]

Not going to be emulating as it is sooooo time consuming and the difference in performance is minor. I will of course run the car up and use all the data to perfect the map

 

[BenR]

I'd agree, having tried all the options, live tuning isnt all its cracked up to be.

Its quicker to adj the map, run the car up on an accel program, datalog and adj the maps accordingly.

Emulation requires your ECU to be ripped apart on the spot and the end result is no diff.

 

[2 live]

hmmmm so why do chip wizards live mapped cars seem to get better figures, and are actually faster on the road, than none live mapped cars from other tuners??

 

[BenR]

funny you should say that.

 

[2 live]

dont see anyone else laughing




im surprised none of the tuning comapanies have visited him tbh , and taken a copy of his map and deemed it as their own.......or have they??

 

[RSTuning]

You are going to open a big can of worms and i suggest you don't go any further!

 

[RSTuning]

hmmmm so why do chip wizards live mapped cars seem to get better figures, and are actually faster on the road, than none live mapped cars from other tuners??

So that applies to all tuners?

Ok Then!

If we are counting horses i got 202 from a standard 182, do i believe that figure? No!

 

[kingz172]

pmurray, could you reply to my pm please mate!

 

[2 live]

hmmmm so why do chip wizards live mapped cars seem to get better figures, and are actually faster on the road, than none live mapped cars from other tuners??

So that applies to all tuners?

Ok Then!

If we are counting horses i got 202 from a standard 182, do i believe that figure? No!

the figures i was on about are actually 0-60 times, 1/4 times etc.

lol


iv already stated my thoughts on another thread on the bhp readings of r/r s

 

[RSTuning]

Anyway, from your point of copying the maps created by "the live mapper"

No thanks

 

[Lagerlout]

Is this the Chipwizards guy that never answers his phone?

 

[RSTuning]

Yes, Wayne is a busy man with what he specialises in.

 

[BenR]

dont see anyone else laughing




im surprised none of the tuning comapanies have visited him tbh , and taken a copy of his map and deemed it as their own.......or have they??

Thats because were leaving it alone.

You remember i went to Wayne last year jon?

205bhp on his rollers on a 182, very very nice chap and most helpful.

 

[2 live]

yes i remember you went to wayne last year. im also told u learnt quite a bit from ur short time with him.

his results on the road kinda speak for themselves. r/r figures, as stated countless times before are to be taken with a pinch of salt.

 

[BenR]

Yea, learnt a fair bit about the live mapping setup on the new clios and about winols as i'd never, and still havent used it......its too complex for me and not something i need to start learning. Did actually shock me a bit to see him ripping apart the ECU on the sport, and i thought he would loose all the chips in the mess that is his electronics bench lol.

His results on the road certainly do speak for itself.

 

[Ali]

Did MATTBLACK not go to wanye...Don't think he liked his mappin!

 

[markclio2007]

On my stock 182 what sort of gains will i expect to see in hp and torque?

And will it be noticeable and is it worth raising limiter?

 

[len_beach]

On my stock 182 what sort of gains will i expect to see in hp and torque?

And will it be noticeable and is it worth raising limiter?

Between 5 and 8 bhp and about 15 lb/ft at around 2500rpm.

 

[RSTuning]

On a totally stock 182 you are looking at approx 10hp and 12lbft, every car i have done has made a good difference on the road, as for the limiter. Only if you want to stay in gear a bit longer for track use etc. there is no extra power to be had from doing this

Paul

 

[markclio2007]

Ok well i do a few track days so raising it would be good but will it damage it in anyway?

 

[RSTuning]

The stock internals are tested for 8k i think so 7650 is a safe limit. There is of course extra stress at higher RPM

Paul

 

[edde]

The stock internals are tested for 8k i think so 7650 is a safe limit. There is of course extra stress at higher RPM

Paul

Renaultsport say constant use at 8k will fail the engine.

 

[BenR]

renault say constant use above 7200rpm will fail it, but to visit higher rpm every so often is fine, its just the track boys that will destroy a piston by sitting on the limiter all day.

There is no power up there anyway.

 

[markclio2007]

yeh will probs just keep on std limit tbh

 

[lasbazrre]

Have it moved up a notch less chance of hitting the redline!

1st and 2nd just go too quick when you give it some, ive never redlined it yet , but come close !

So i had it moved up to 7650, just give's you a touch more space, changing above 7000 is a totel waste!

leon

 

[Steviant]

Have it moved up a notch less chance of hitting the redline!

1st and 2nd just go too quick when you give it some, ive never redlined it yet , but come close !

So i had it moved up to 7650, just give's you a touch more space, changing above 7000 is a totel waste!

leon

 

[lasbazrre]

Have it moved up a notch less chance of hitting the redline!

1st and 2nd just go too quick when you give it some, ive never redlined it yet , but come close !

So i had it moved up to 7650, just give's you a touch more space, changing above 7000 is a totel waste!

leon

:rasp:

 

[172Petey]

Have it moved up a notch less chance of hitting the redline!

1st and 2nd just go too quick when you give it some, ive never redlined it yet , but come close !

So i had it moved up to 7650, just give's you a touch more space, changing above 7000 is a totel waste!

leon

FPMSL :lolup:

Everything in moderation for a road going everyday car IMO.