Hi, this is my first post here but I have been readin this site for a while without postin (like somekind of car pervert in the bushes). I've got an 05 182 which is really f**cking me off at the moment. Basically the performance just seems to have gone. Has anyone else had this "Car Hypochondria" thing where your constantly thinking something aint right? Anyway I've taken it to reno (and they managed to scratch it while it was there, nice bonus, cheers) and they say it's fine but if I want to put it on rolling road or dyno(?) or whatever I will have to pay for it. Basic problem is, slight lack of power when you expect it at about 2.5k combined with a wierd rattle in the exhaust at the same time and the feeling that I'm towing a caravan while accelerating. Has anyone else had any experience of this? Thinking of selling it and catching the bus until the 207 GTi comes out.
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- Thread starter KarKiller
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cleaned/changed the air filter lately?
A few people have said the cat. Apparently you get an odd smell with that which I dont have. Felt the gas from the exhaust and it feels ok (although the gas from one pipe was hotter than the other oddly!). The air filter was replaced at the last service a few weeks ago. They also said that they realigned the exhaust as it was rattling at about 3K.
Really want to get it sorted as it just depresses me to drive it. Feels like I have to really push it as if somethings holding it back.
Really want to get it sorted as it just depresses me to drive it. Feels like I have to really push it as if somethings holding it back.
MRBILLYUK
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Is the lack of power right through the rev range , or just up to a certain revs then it seems to pick up ??
I had a lack of power on my 172 up to about 3k , then it would be ok . Turned out to be the spark plugs , the car had only done 30k at the time . And please everybody don't say they are good for 72k because i feel that 72k for spark plugs is a bit optimistic and having to change my plugs at 30k proves it .The car was run from new 99% of the time on optimax as well .
Imo i don't think that there is a spark plug out there that performs at 60k - 70k as good as it did from new !
I know you car is a newer 182 and shouldn't be suffereing from plug problems but it is an option to look at .
I had a lack of power on my 172 up to about 3k , then it would be ok . Turned out to be the spark plugs , the car had only done 30k at the time . And please everybody don't say they are good for 72k because i feel that 72k for spark plugs is a bit optimistic and having to change my plugs at 30k proves it .The car was run from new 99% of the time on optimax as well .
Imo i don't think that there is a spark plug out there that performs at 60k - 70k as good as it did from new !
I know you car is a newer 182 and shouldn't be suffereing from plug problems but it is an option to look at .
Its just generally really, not at any particular revs. Its hard to describe but it's as if something is holding the engine back. I have to put my foot down more to rev it that before, previously the "throttle" was really sensitive and the power was really obvious. I could look at the spark plugs, it's 12 months old tho and done 12K miles so it's probably a bit of a long shot.
R26 230
sounds like engine management. limiting the performance for safety so doesnt f**k engine up further get renault to put a computer on it and delete all of the faults.
KarKiller said:
Ooh, I have this. It's bloody annoying...
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tataly agree there just taken my car bck to reno 4 the 4th fault since i have had it, gear box clutch flywheel and is now geting the steering rack replaced,KarKiller said:
got sumin u cud try bit random i no, but i sort o had the same problem, turn the esp off drive it 4 abit then put it bck on, dunno why but this cured my lack of power a few weeks ago.
just been out in it. it sounds wrong as well. Kind of "grindy". I'm thinking the engine is fucked. Tried that ESP thing and it didn't do anything. Oh and reno have just phone to say that have painted up a new door mirror to replace the one they scratched when I was there b4. So back to reno....again! 5th time in 6 months.
decided I'm gonna take the car to another reno place. exhaust is making more noise today so maybe it is that. if they dont sort it will take it to a performance exhaust place. anyone know a good one near birmingham / walsall? Also whats the deal with optimax? noticed a few people on here mentioning it and a bloke a reno has mentioned it? He said to try and mentioned the engine doesn't get as hot. Or something.
Taken the car back to reno today and went out in it with one of the techs driving it. He thought it was performing "as he would expect".
He then basically said that he didn't like 182s and thinks they are s**t and that you have to thrash the nuts off them to get them to perform!! Said the exhaust was fine cos they all make a noise. Bascially he said I was using the wrong petrol (I use 97 RON), and said I should use 98 otherwise I'd get "pinking" (sorry I don't even know what that is).
Seriously thinking of trading it in as not getting anywhere unless someone can point me in another direction. Oh and whats pinking?
He then basically said that he didn't like 182s and thinks they are s**t and that you have to thrash the nuts off them to get them to perform!! Said the exhaust was fine cos they all make a noise. Bascially he said I was using the wrong petrol (I use 97 RON), and said I should use 98 otherwise I'd get "pinking" (sorry I don't even know what that is).
Seriously thinking of trading it in as not getting anywhere unless someone can point me in another direction. Oh and whats pinking?
Took my car to Fred a couple of weeks ago, what a nice bloke, had a really good look at the car for me and found there was a problem with the centre section of the exhaust. Had Renualt change the centre section now (had to get one of the salesman there to drive it and he said it was like a 1.4!).
Anyway Much quicker and more like I'd expect. I still don't think it's all there though, still feels a bit flat to be honest all the way up to 5.5K and the exhaust is still rattling (although I don't know how much is normal). Anyway taken it to Kwik fit today (cos you can't get better apparently) to have a look at the exhaust and there is a movement in the joint at the back of the centre section (really sorry, don't know what the bits of the exhaust are called). The exhaust is also blowing a bit nearer the front but they thought that might be normal to allow for some give. Can anyone shed any light? If I go back to reno as vague as this they will bend me over!!! Cheers guys.
Anyway Much quicker and more like I'd expect. I still don't think it's all there though, still feels a bit flat to be honest all the way up to 5.5K and the exhaust is still rattling (although I don't know how much is normal). Anyway taken it to Kwik fit today (cos you can't get better apparently) to have a look at the exhaust and there is a movement in the joint at the back of the centre section (really sorry, don't know what the bits of the exhaust are called). The exhaust is also blowing a bit nearer the front but they thought that might be normal to allow for some give. Can anyone shed any light? If I go back to reno as vague as this they will bend me over!!! Cheers guys.
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KarKiller said:
That BS about the petrol is unlikely to be the problem.
Pinking is detonation....sounds like nails/bolts rattling about in exhaust/engine.
If you have heard this and it actually was detonation your pistons would be pretty damaged by now.....modern engines have knock sensors to detect this and make the necessary adjustments to the ignition to stop it.
Neil G said:
I'm pretty sure the problems lie with the exhaust now. Renault were just fobbing me off with the stuff about Petrol and Pinking. Just want to know if there is a problem with the exhaust. I know if I take it and describe the problem above, they will just say "oh that's how it's supposed to be". Exahust is still rattling and I'm sure it shouldn't (I'm pretty sure it didn't when I bought it).
Bye Bye 182....
Get a new one from MIJ Exhausts on the Pleck Road in Walsall. They are top bananna.
Pinking is best explained on this site.KarKiller said:
http://www.ukpia.com/glossary.aspx
(text copied form the site)
Octane number
A measure of petrol's resistance to pre-ignition or "pinking", which is the sound made by an engine when pre-ignition occurs, particularly at low revs and high load. Two measures are used, for low speed and high speed pre-ignition. ULSP in the UK typically has a MON (Motor Octane Number) of 85 and a RON (Research Octane Number) of 95. SULSP and LRP have a RON of 97/98.
The 182 who't pink on 95 RON let alone 97 RON so there talking rubish if they want to they can go plug in there Clip laptop and check the pinking sensor output see if the timing is being pulled back and see there talking rubish.
If it realy is slow then it could be either a dropped valve or more commonly a faulty injector. Injecors don't show up on the Renault clip laptop as failures they need to check them in other ways.
Your exhaust problem might be cause of the issue though if the cat is breaking up maybe. Go to another dealership some are just useless.
edde said:
Cheers mate. It's defo not pinking, after having the centre section replaced it's much quicker but still really flat before about 4K. Feels like it takes ages to pick up speed. Think they've just done a shite job on the exhaust as the Kwik fit guys weren't very impressed and said to take it back plus it's still rattling a bit.
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