s**te internet.

[Gray]

Heres mine tonight,

Dont think this is the most accurate test, those two were taken 5mins apart from each other

 

[Adam K]

an ISP basically has to rent pipes from bt to take data from their network on the BT's backbone.

nowadays each pipe is 622mb, although they used to be 155mb, and some isp's still have a mix of the 2.

a 622mb pipe with a 1:1 contention ratio would only cater for about 77 customers (if each customer was running at the full 8mb), so for an ISP to cover the cost of the pipe alone they would need to charge each customer £1700 per month approximately (just to cover installation costs) as 1 622mb central costs around £160,000 for installation, and over a million a year for rental.

now work that out as to how many customers an ISP needs to lob on each pipe to keep the cost below £30 a month for the majority of customers.

add on top the fact that for each central pipe an isp has, it needs an ERX (edge routing switch) which costs around £100k each.

and that boys and girls is why adsl is this country will only get worse rather than better. because people want it cheaper, but it isn't physically possible without having a degraded service.

 

[Jo3y]

an ISP basically has to rent pipes from bt to take data from their network on the BT's backbone.

nowadays each pipe is 622mb, although they used to be 155mb, and some isp's still have a mix of the 2.

a 622mb pipe with a 1:1 contention ratio would only cater for about 77 customers (if each customer was running at the full 8mb), so for an ISP to cover the cost of the pipe alone they would need to charge each customer £1700 per month approximately (just to cover installation costs) as 1 622mb central costs around £160,000 for installation, and over a million a year for rental.

now work that out as to how many customers an ISP needs to lob on each pipe to keep the cost below £30 a month for the majority of customers.

add on top the fact that for each central pipe an isp has, it needs an ERX (edge routing switch) which costs around £100k each.

and that boys and girls is why adsl is this country will only get worse rather than better. because people want it cheaper, but it isn't physically possible without having a degraded service.

Unless BT lower the rental cost of the pipes

 

[TheCake]

On Orange

 

[Adam K]

an ISP basically has to rent pipes from bt to take data from their network on the BT's backbone.

nowadays each pipe is 622mb, although they used to be 155mb, and some isp's still have a mix of the 2.

a 622mb pipe with a 1:1 contention ratio would only cater for about 77 customers (if each customer was running at the full 8mb), so for an ISP to cover the cost of the pipe alone they would need to charge each customer £1700 per month approximately (just to cover installation costs) as 1 622mb central costs around £160,000 for installation, and over a million a year for rental.

now work that out as to how many customers an ISP needs to lob on each pipe to keep the cost below £30 a month for the majority of customers.

add on top the fact that for each central pipe an isp has, it needs an ERX (edge routing switch) which costs around £100k each.

and that boys and girls is why adsl is this country will only get worse rather than better. because people want it cheaper, but it isn't physically possible without having a degraded service.

Unless BT lower the rental cost of the pipes

which isn't going to happen till a certain number of people are on LLU because ofcom are idiots and are making bt keep the price artificially high.

 

[ollie]

Sorry to rake this back up.. Adam have you got msn mate i need to talk to someone who knows what they're talkin about..

 

[Adam K]

adamkendal@hotmail.com

 

[Guy]

mines meant to be 2meg

recently installed bit comet and torrent downloads are about 22k


22k?!?!!!

exited bit comet and did a speed test, 1.7meg

im on ntl

that site youve posted pics of.. their speedtest wouldnt even work with me??

try search for other speed testers on google..


anyone got a torrent file that WILL download at max levels?! so i can test to see wht my dl goes to?
maybe im just downloading crap torrents..

 

[Adam K]

http://speedtester.bt.com

 

[Graham Gooch]

 

[xtreme_boi]

Mine on a good day. Currently on a 6 meg service. However I have been having alot of problems with the download speeds I get from Pipex Homecall.

Wouldn't recomend to anyone...

 

[Mole]

Guy, torrents are hit and miss, as its all to do with peers, if they have got a slow upload, you'll get a slow download from them.

Things like ftp's and newsgroups should max out your connection, aslong as the other end has a fast connection, and the routing is all ok.

Also some ISPs throttle (traffic shape) torrent traffic and even newsgroup traffic, so bear that in mind if you use torrents for speed testing