Steering Rack Width?

[CamMoreRon]

Bonjour!

Possibly a long shot, but does anybody have (or is able to measure) the width of a 172 Cup* steering rack? That would be the distance between the inner tie rod ball joint centres.

Fingers crossed somebody has a rack and a tape measure in front of them.. you never know. :tonguewink:

*Only has to be a cup if the rack widths are different.

 

[NorthloopCup]

They lengthened the rack on a cup using longer arms that screw into the rack. I've got a rack in bits currently, so I can take measurements if you want?

 

[CamMoreRon]

If you could that would be perfect! I just need the measurement from one ball joint centre to the other, but if you could measure the linear travel lock to lock as well that would be a bonus. :smile:

 

[NorthloopCup]

If you could that would be perfect! I just need the measurement from one ball joint centre to the other, but if you could measure the linear travel lock to lock as well that would be a bonus. :smile:

I can't measure the ball joint centre to centre as I don't have the cup steering arms though mate. I'll try and get the other measurements tonight for you

 

[CamMoreRon]

Ah.. does it have any steering arms on it?

If it does have some on and the Cup ones are different at the inner BJ's then I'll still be interested to know.. maybe I can work something out by looking at my arms, I'm just trying to avoid taking my rack off as it's a PITA job!

It's just the inner BJ's I'm worried about. :smile:

 

[NorthloopCup]

Ah.. does it have any steering arms on it?

If it does have some on and the Cup ones are different at the inner BJ's then I'll still be interested to know.. maybe I can work something out by looking at my arms, I'm just trying to avoid taking my rack off as it's a PITA job!

It's just the inner BJ's I'm worried about. :smile:

It's in a completely stripped down state fella! Lol! The steering arms are off, the casings separate and the main steering shaft is out! Lol

 

[bozothenutter]

dare I ask why it is stripped, any upgrades or a refurb?

 

[NorthloopCup]

dare I ask why it is stripped, any upgrades or a refurb?

Just a few tweaks/adjustments mate.:wink:

 

[CamMoreRon]

Ok that's actually not that much of a problem.. If you can measure the width of the rack gear then I can work out where the BJ's are in relation to that by looking at mine.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Ok that's actually not that much of a problem.. If you can measure the width of the rack gear then I can work out where the BJ's are in relation to that by looking at mine. :smiley:

Sound! I'll get it measured and report back later.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Width of rack gear is 574mm long. That measurement is taken from end to end where the steering arms screw on to. If you need anything else measuring just let me know. @CamMoreRon

 

[CamMoreRon]

Awesome, really appreciate the help! :smile:

One more thing.. could you measure the rack travel lock-lock? I guess measuring from the end you did earlier to the end of the rack body on full lock, then turn to opposite lock and measure again would be the best way.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Awesome, really appreciate the help! :smile:

One more thing.. could you measure the rack travel lock-lock? I guess measuring from the end you did earlier to the end of the rack body on full lock, then turn to opposite lock and measure again would be the best way.

No problem at all mate.

I'll have a measure up later on for you buddy.

 

[NorthloopCup]

I've not forgotten to have a measure up mate. Just been flat out at work which is where the steering rack is! @CamMoreRon

 

[Ph1 Tom]

iirc its 1215mm

 

[CamMoreRon]

1215mm sounds like a lot.. the wishbone inner pivots are ~650mm apart and the inner track rod BJ's are definitely inboard of them!

@NorthloopCup - No problem! The travel isn't so urgent, so just do it whenever you can.

 

[MG cup]

Just a few tweaks/adjustments mate.:wink:

You're such an elusive b**ch :tonguewink:

Come on...... How much work can you actually do to a rack without a new rack and pinion? Painting and stroking don't count.

 

[NorthloopCup]

You're such an elusive b**ch :tonguewink:

Come on...... How much work can you actually do to a rack without a new rack and pinion? Painting and stroking don't count.

Flol! I'm filling it full of unicorn semen. It's apparently good for reducing friction and works better than Teflon. Not sure on the texture though - it's a bit gloopy. :tongueclosed:

 

[Ph1 Tom]

1215mm sounds like a lot.. the wishbone inner pivots are ~650mm apart and the inner track rod BJ's are definitely inboard of them!

It's not when you consider the track is 1436mm on a cup so that gives you 4.5" each side from the ball joint to the outside of the wheel which shouldn't be far off.

 

[CamMoreRon]

Ah, you're talking outer ball joints! I'm on about the inner ones.