Sump Gasket Torques/Tightening Sequence and Bolts

[D1CKY]

I am gonna have a go at changing my sump gasket some time soon.

Am I correct in thinking there Is a certain sequence for tightening the bolts ?
Rather than going round them one by one after each other.

Does anyone know what to torque the bolts up to ?

And am I correct in thinking that the bolts have male Torx heads that require a 'E' sized socket ?

And lastly any tips on how far I need to jack the car up and how far I have to drop the subframe to get the sump out ?
And how many bolts hold the subframe on ?

Sorry for sounding a newbie, but I've never dropped the subframe before so I'm unsure what's attached to it and how it's fixed in place.

 

[Nick_P]

No need to drop the subframe, yeah they bolts are strange little fellas. I had to get a 1/4" socket to get into the tightest spots.

 

[Nick_P]

Torque settings can be found here, along with the sequence.


http://www.fastchip.nl/media/doc/clio2/F4R_730.pdf

 

[D1CKY]

No need to drop the subframe, yeah they bolts are strange little fellas. I had to get a 1/4" socket to get into the tightest spots.

How tight was the tight spots mate ?
And did you have much space with subframe in position ?

Torque settings can be found here, along with the sequence.


http://www.fastchip.nl/media/doc/clio2/F4R_730.pdf

Cheers mate, I'll have a scan at the serv manual.

 

[Gray]

Male torque heads... E7/E8 size iirc, be careful there easy to round off!

do the bolts up from the inside out, all sides working to the corners

Torque range 12 - 15Nm iirc

 

[D1CKY]

Male torque heads... E7/E8 size iirc, be careful there easy to round off!

do the bolts up from the inside out, all sides working to the corners

Torque range 12 - 15Nm iirc

Cheers bud

 

[DannyR]

Just nip them up and you'll be fine!

 

[Gray]

Just nip them up and you'll be fine!

LOL!

 

[Fred@BTM]

NIP THEM, BEHAVE!

hello leaks!

 

[Gray]

if you just nip them it will be worse than any leaks you had before LOL

 

[DannyR]

Lol, mine were just done hand tight, no torque wrench, never a problem!

 

[Gray]

pikey

 

[D1CKY]

Anyone any ideas where the best place to get a gasket is ?

And does anyone know what size the bolts are ?
E ???

As i dont wanna go out and buy Female E Sockets and find there the wrong ones

 

[mark123]

I dropped the subframe a bit, I couldn't jack the engine high enough. Felt like I was going to break something.

It's E8 just checked. I had to buy a 1/4" one as my 3/8" was too big for some of the recessed bolts.

 

[D1CKY]

I dropped the subframe a bit, I couldn't jack the engine high enough. Felt like I was going to break something.

It's E8 just checked. I had to buy a 1/4" one as my 3/8" was too big for some of the recessed bolts.

Cheers for size mate.

How far did you have to drop subframe ?

Did you have to remove any other bolts to give clearance ?

Or was the bolts that hold the subframe enough ?

 

[mark123]

Not sure how much the sump fell out while I was lowering it... 2-4 inches maybe.

I undid everything but I probably didn't need to, I was planning on doing the clutch while I was there but decided to delay that job in the end.

By everything I mean - lower gearbox mount, steering column pinch bolt, rack bolts, lower ball joints, track rod ends and an easily missed bolt that holds the lower rad pipe onto the subframe.