The Power PC Thread [f*ck off consoles]

[Greeny.]

@Romanian Shlong Stroker also worth looking at noblechairs vs secret labs, I decided to get a hero after reading many reviews and love it.

 

[Greeny.]

@Cub. I’m sure you’ve already checked it but I got a PC built by up Scan for a mate purely to be able to get him a 3070 a little while ago, anyway ran 3D Mark and a few others as you do and the CPU maxed out at a lovely 99c… good work Scan 👍

 

[Mr Squashie]

CPU maxed out at a lovely 99c

Cooler not mounted properly, or thermal paste not applied correctly?

 

[Greeny.]

Cooler not mounted properly, or thermal paste not applied correctly?

Fan going at literally 500RPM, think they obviously got confused as I changed the mobo and CPU cooler from the standard ones, no biggie to fix but not particularly professional and average joe wouldn’t even bother checking it as it passed all their tests but at the same time average joe wouldn’t of changed the parts…

 

[Mr Squashie]

Fan going at literally 500RPM, think they obviously got confused as I changed the mobo and CPU cooler from the standard ones, no biggie to fix but not particularly professional and average joe wouldn’t even bother checking it as it passed all their tests but at the same time average joe wouldn’t of changed the parts…

I think most of these companies are just happy if it POSTs, that's why I always run benchmarks to check temps. I remember installing my AIO backplate upside down and only noticed because some of my cores were hotter than others. Even if I'd just checked average temps I wouldn't have spotted it because the average looked ok. Can't see a pre-built company checking stuff that thoroughly before signing it off.

 

[Krarl]

I think I'm sold on the Titan XL. Had a look at everything else but a lad at work has convinced me to go for the Titan over the Noblechairs Hero

 

[Greeny.]

I think I'm sold on the Titan XL. Had a look at everything else but a lad at work has convinced me to go for the Titan over the Noblechairs Hero

They use the same frame, just different fabric and finish iirc

 

[Wilkeh]

I think I'm sold on the Titan XL. Had a look at everything else but a lad at work has convinced me to go for the Titan over the Noblechairs Hero

Absolutely love mine mate. One of the best things I've ever bought

 

[Krarl]

How long did it take for your chairs to arrive gents?

I'm very impatient🤣

 

[SharkyUK]

How long did it take for your chairs to arrive gents?

I'm very impatient🤣

A few months... but only because I ordered just as they hit a shortage and some sort of virus thing was causing issues. And they didn't have the fabric style I wanted.

 

[Wilkeh]

Mine came the next day. I've had it a while though

 

[Willo40]

Guys would appreciate your opinions on the below spec, £2300, its for my lad, only sticking points are the case, he wants that one, needs to be 3070, and Ryzen 7 5800x, everything else i am open to suggestions, case has 2 x 140mm front fans, and the cooler has 2 x 140mm so cooling shouldn't be an issue i don't think, he isn't graphics heavy really, it's all about the FPS and speeds for him, he is buying himself a new monitor which will be at least 1440p and 165hz.

Ignore the Ram, he has 32gb 3600mz in his current pc i will swap over.

• BLUETOOTH: None Selected
• CAS: NZXT H510 Elite White Compact Mid-Tower Gaming Case (features 2x AER RGB 140mm fans) [+49]
• CD: None Selected
• COOL: None Selected
• COOL2: None Selected
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X - 8-Core 3.80GHz, 4.7GHz Turbo - 32MB L3 Cache Processor, Pro OC Compatible (No On-board Graphics)
• CS_FAN: None Selected
• EXCD: None Selected
• EXPAN: Built-in USB Ports
• FAN: NZXT Kraken X53 RGB 240mm Liquid Cooling System, Ultimate OC Compatible [+69]
• FLASHMEDIA: None Selected
• FREEBIE_SSD: None Selected
• HDD: 4TB Seagate IronWolf Pro SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive (1 Drive)
• KEYBOARD: None Selected
• M2SSD: None Selected [-66]
• M2SSD2: None Selected
• MEMORY: 8GB (1x8GB) DDR4/3200mhz Dual Channel Memory [-90] (Corsair Vengeance LPX w/Heat Spreader)
• MONITOR: None Selected
• MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Prime X570-P: ATX w/ RGB, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2, SATA3, 2x M.2
• MOUSE: None Selected
• NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT -- As standard on all PCs
• OS: Windows 11 Home 64-bit Edition (No Recovery Media)
• OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
• PCABLE: None Selected
• POWERSUPPLY: Corsair RM850 850W 80+ Gold Modular Gaming Power Supply
• PRO_WIRING1: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chasis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
• RAID: None Selected
• RUSH: Standard Processing Time
• SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD AUDIO
• SPEAKERS: None Selected
• SSD: 500GB Samsung 870 EVO 2.5" SSD - 560MB/s Read / 530MB/s Write [+57] (1 Drive)
• STREAMERGEAR: None Selected
• USB1: Built-in USB Ports [+0]
• VIDEO: MSI GeForce® RTX 3070 Ti 8GB - Ray Tracing Technology, DX12®, VR Ready, HDMI, DP - 4 MIN. Monitor Support [+24] (Single Card)
• VIDEOCAPTURE: None Selected
• VIVE_HEADSET: None Selected
• WARRANTY: DESKTOP STANDARD WARRANTY: 5 Years' Labour, 2 Years' Parts, 6 Months' Collect and Return plus Life-Time Technical Support
• WNC: None Selected
• XWNA: None Selected

 

[The Psychedelic Socialist]

Guys would appreciate your opinions on the below spec, £2300, its for my lad, only sticking points are the case, he wants that one, needs to be 3070, and Ryzen 7 5800x, everything else i am open to suggestions, case has 2 x 140mm front fans, and the cooler has 2 x 140mm so cooling shouldn't be an issue i don't think, he isn't graphics heavy really, it's all about the FPS and speeds for him, he is buying himself a new monitor which will be at least 1440p and 165hz.

• BLUETOOTH: None Selected
• CAS: NZXT H510 Elite White Compact Mid-Tower Gaming Case (features 2x AER RGB 140mm fans) [+49]
• CD: None Selected
• COOL: None Selected
• COOL2: None Selected
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X - 8-Core 3.80GHz, 4.7GHz Turbo - 32MB L3 Cache Processor, Pro OC Compatible (No On-board Graphics)
• CS_FAN: None Selected
• EXCD: None Selected
• EXPAN: Built-in USB Ports
• FAN: NZXT Kraken X53 RGB 240mm Liquid Cooling System, Ultimate OC Compatible [+69]
• FLASHMEDIA: None Selected
• FREEBIE_SSD: None Selected
• HDD: 4TB Seagate IronWolf Pro SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive (1 Drive)
• KEYBOARD: None Selected
• M2SSD: None Selected [-66]
• M2SSD2: None Selected
• MEMORY: 8GB (1x8GB) DDR4/3200mhz Dual Channel Memory [-90] (Corsair Vengeance LPX w/Heat Spreader)
• MONITOR: None Selected
• MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Prime X570-P: ATX w/ RGB, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2, SATA3, 2x M.2
• MOUSE: None Selected
• NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT -- As standard on all PCs
• OS: Windows 11 Home 64-bit Edition (No Recovery Media)
• OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
• PCABLE: None Selected
• POWERSUPPLY: Corsair RM850 850W 80+ Gold Modular Gaming Power Supply
• PRO_WIRING1: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chasis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
• RAID: None Selected
• RUSH: Standard Processing Time
• SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD AUDIO
• SPEAKERS: None Selected
• SSD: 500GB Samsung 870 EVO 2.5" SSD - 560MB/s Read / 530MB/s Write [+57] (1 Drive)
• STREAMERGEAR: None Selected
• USB1: Built-in USB Ports [+0]
• VIDEO: MSI GeForce® RTX 3070 Ti 8GB - Ray Tracing Technology, DX12®, VR Ready, HDMI, DP - 4 MIN. Monitor Support [+24] (Single Card)
• VIDEOCAPTURE: None Selected
• VIVE_HEADSET: None Selected
• WARRANTY: DESKTOP STANDARD WARRANTY: 5 Years' Labour, 2 Years' Parts, 6 Months' Collect and Return plus Life-Time Technical Support
• WNC: None Selected
• XWNA: None Selected

I'll leave more knowledgeable types to comment on the rest of the spec, but that memory doesn't look right to me. Is that saying 1x8GB stick of memory? So it wouldn't even run in dual channel mode?

For the processor and GPU, just 8GB of memory in single channel mode seems like a massive bottleneck. I'd be going with at least 2x8GB. (I've just gone 4x8GB with the same processor myself, but that's probably overkill)

 

[Willo40]

Sorry Rich, amended now.

 

[Rojer]

How long did it take for your chairs to arrive gents?

I'm very impatient🤣

I ordered a secretlabs chair and it never came. Had to battle for refund as apparently Hermes delivered it. Of course they did. Ended up getting a Steelcase Leap instead, but it will be too rich for your blood 😂

 

[Krarl]

I ordered a secretlabs chair and it never came. Had to battle for refund as apparently Hermes delivered it. Of course they did. Ended up getting a Steelcase Leap instead, but it will be too rich for your blood 😂

Not sure they deliver with Hermes nowfrom what I could see🤣 The delivery options included UPS, DPD, DHL and FedEx iirc

I can't imagine why...

 

[Rojer]

Yes we were under that impression aswell, until we got the email saying it will be delivered by Hermes. When we questioned it they said they have to use other suppliers to keep up with demand....so don't take it for granted.

 

[N0ddie]

Guys would appreciate your opinions on the below spec, £2300, its for my lad, only sticking points are the case, he wants that one, needs to be 3070, and Ryzen 7 5800x, everything else i am open to suggestions, case has 2 x 140mm front fans, and the cooler has 2 x 140mm so cooling shouldn't be an issue i don't think, he isn't graphics heavy really, it's all about the FPS and speeds for him, he is buying himself a new monitor which will be at least 1440p and 165hz.

Ignore the Ram, he has 32gb 3600mz in his current pc i will swap over.

• BLUETOOTH: None Selected
• CAS: NZXT H510 Elite White Compact Mid-Tower Gaming Case (features 2x AER RGB 140mm fans) [+49]
• CD: None Selected
• COOL: None Selected
• COOL2: None Selected
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X - 8-Core 3.80GHz, 4.7GHz Turbo - 32MB L3 Cache Processor, Pro OC Compatible (No On-board Graphics)
• CS_FAN: None Selected
• EXCD: None Selected
• EXPAN: Built-in USB Ports
• FAN: NZXT Kraken X53 RGB 240mm Liquid Cooling System, Ultimate OC Compatible [+69]
• FLASHMEDIA: None Selected
• FREEBIE_SSD: None Selected
• HDD: 4TB Seagate IronWolf Pro SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive (1 Drive)
• KEYBOARD: None Selected
• M2SSD: None Selected [-66]
• M2SSD2: None Selected
• MEMORY: 8GB (1x8GB) DDR4/3200mhz Dual Channel Memory [-90] (Corsair Vengeance LPX w/Heat Spreader)
• MONITOR: None Selected
• MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Prime X570-P: ATX w/ RGB, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2, SATA3, 2x M.2
• MOUSE: None Selected
• NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT -- As standard on all PCs
• OS: Windows 11 Home 64-bit Edition (No Recovery Media)
• OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
• PCABLE: None Selected
• POWERSUPPLY: Corsair RM850 850W 80+ Gold Modular Gaming Power Supply
• PRO_WIRING1: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chasis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
• RAID: None Selected
• RUSH: Standard Processing Time
• SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD AUDIO
• SPEAKERS: None Selected
• SSD: 500GB Samsung 870 EVO 2.5" SSD - 560MB/s Read / 530MB/s Write [+57] (1 Drive)
• STREAMERGEAR: None Selected
• USB1: Built-in USB Ports [+0]
• VIDEO: MSI GeForce® RTX 3070 Ti 8GB - Ray Tracing Technology, DX12®, VR Ready, HDMI, DP - 4 MIN. Monitor Support [+24] (Single Card)
• VIDEOCAPTURE: None Selected
• VIVE_HEADSET: None Selected
• WARRANTY: DESKTOP STANDARD WARRANTY: 5 Years' Labour, 2 Years' Parts, 6 Months' Collect and Return plus Life-Time Technical Support
• WNC: None Selected
• XWNA: None Selected

If you are not going to overclock it then why bother with a X570 motherboard? Also, why get the 5800X instead of the 5600X? Also. The specs are baller yet you've not selected an m.2 NVME drive? You should bin the old HDD and replace it with a sata SSD (Big volumes can be had cheaply now) and replace the sata SSd (Which will have the OS on) for an NVME one.

 

[Willo40]

If you are not going to overclock it then why bother with a X570 motherboard? Also, why get the 5800X instead of the 5600X? Also. The specs are baller yet you've not selected an m.2 NVME drive? You should bin the old HDD and replace it with a sata SSD (Big volumes can be had cheaply now) and replace the sata SSd (Which will have the OS on) for an NVME one.

He may well overclock it at some point, and he currently has a 5800x so didn't want to go backwards really, i am not 100% on how the drives work, i thought you normally has SSD for windows to run etc then a hard drive for game storage?

Thanks for the reply mate.

 

[Maccy]

@Romanian Shlong Stroker you considered a Noblechair? Should be available immediately.

 

[Willo40]

If you are not going to overclock it then why bother with a X570 motherboard? Also, why get the 5800X instead of the 5600X? Also. The specs are baller yet you've not selected an m.2 NVME drive? You should bin the old HDD and replace it with a sata SSD (Big volumes can be had cheaply now) and replace the sata SSd (Which will have the OS on) for an NVME one.

I am a little stuck, as i am buying through Cyberpower, a 1TB SSD is £150, and a 4TB is £300?

 

[Willo40]

@N0ddie , is this better?

 

[The Psychedelic Socialist]

@N0ddie , is this better?
View attachment 1563823

The memory still hasn't changed though ; still 1x8GB stick by the looks of it.

Isn't it cheaper to get one large M2 SSD rather than an M2 and a SATA SSD as well?

 

[Willo40]

The memory still hasn't changed though ; still 1x8GB stick by the looks of it.

Isn't it cheaper to get one large M2 SSD rather than an M2 and a SATA SSD as well?

I am using the ram from his current PC mate, and it won't let me spec with no ram, so just done with the cheapest, i thought it was best to keep the drives separate for the operating system and games?

 

[The Psychedelic Socialist]

I am using the ram from his current PC mate, and it won't let me spec with no ram, so just done with the cheapest, i thought it was best to keep the drives separate for the operating system and games?

Fair enough on the RAM. So long as you've got at least two matched sticks you should be fine.

As for the drives, I don't think separating content provides any benefit and you want both the OS and the games on the fastest possible device.

Only time I'd want a separate drive is for huge content where storage costs become stupid on SSD (e.g. 10TB of films and TV is better on a spinning platter than it is on an SSD for cost, and probably better outside the PC on a NAS of some kind).

I'm just running a single SN850 1TB for my OS and games and it flies.

 

[Willo40]

Fair enough on the RAM. So long as you've got at least two matched sticks you should be fine.

As for the drives, I don't think separating content provides any benefit and you want both the OS and the games on the fastest possible device.

Only time I'd want a separate drive is for huge content where storage costs become stupid on SSD (e.g. 10TB of films and TV is better on a spinning platter than it is on an SSD for cost, and probably better outside the PC on a NAS of some kind).

I'm just running a single SN850 1TB for my OS and games and it flies.

Yes he has 32gb 3600mhz now, so they will go in the new one, maybe something to consider then, ditch the SSD and just get a 2TB M2...

Thanks mate

 

[Cookie]

How long did it take for your chairs to arrive gents?

I'm very impatient🤣

Next day, that was in April

My Secret Lab chair came via TNT

 

[Wilkeh]

@Romanian Shlong Stroker you considered a Noblechair? Should be available immediately.

There's a reason they're available immediately 😉

 

[Maccy]

There's a reason they're available immediately 😉

Friend of mine works for them, I can testify that they're bloody good.

 

[Krarl]

Friend of mine works for them, I can testify that they're bloody good.

Conflict of interest right there

 

[Maccy]

Conflict of interest right there

Maybe, but can confirm first hand they're decent

 

[Darren S]

How long did it take for your chairs to arrive gents?

I'm very impatient🤣

Wasn't long - approx a week/10 days I think?

 

[Krarl]

But, but, but

I WANT IT NOOOWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!

 

[Mr Squashie]

New Intel processor reviews are up. Team blue are back on top of their game apparently. Great to see proper competition and innovation from both sides again.

I wonder if people will actually be able to buy them 🤔

 

[Rojer]

I wonder how much of that is partly down to DDR5 and Intel working closely with Microsoft on Win 11

 

[Mr Squashie]

I wonder how much of that is partly down to DDR5 and Intel working closely with Microsoft on Win 11

The testing I've seen was using Windows 10, however they did hint that the upcoming review using Windows 11 was very very close in performance. DDR5 will have made some difference, but only in applications that are very memory intensive. The main improvement seems to be in architecture and power consumption, it uses as much power as an overclocked 5950X, but beats it in most tests despite having fewer cores and threads

 

[Mr Squashie]

 

[boultonn]

Has anyone actually been offered Win11 yet?

 

[Rojer]

I have been using it since the start of September on my work laptop and apart from the odd bug it's been decent.

 

[Daz...]

Has anyone actually been offered Win11 yet?

It came up on my pc the other day saying I can upgrade now.

Updates have now been paused for the next month.