The Power PC Thread [f*ck off consoles]

[Wilkeh]

I havnt seen any videos yet on the reviews and benchmarks on the new intel cpus, what they been saying?

My current cpu is intel and new one next year was going to be AMD anyway since decided few years ago

They're basically very dissapointing for gaming

I mean this is at 1080p like, so more CPU intensive. The gap won't be as big at 4K gaming as this will be more on the GPU. But still, very dissapointing!

 

[The Psychedelic Socialist]

What's the point of benchmarking processors on games like this?

I cannot understand how anyone can write an article with a straight face implying that one processor is better than another because it gets 872fps in a game vs. 751fps.

(yes I know it's objectively 'better' because more, but there are a million things you could benchmark with more relevance to actual use)

 

[Wilkeh]

What's the point of benchmarking processors on games like this?

I cannot understand how anyone can write an article with a straight face implying that one processor is better than another because it gets 872fps in a game vs. 751fps.

(yes I know it's objectively 'better' because more, but there are a million things you could benchmark with more relevance to actual use)

Yeah I totally get that over 500 FPS is a pointless benchmark, but it still should be better than their previous generation. The benchmarks over 200 are still relevant as 360hz monitors exist. Here’s a better graph then with an average across 14 games

The CPU is being slated for gaming, not general other use. Apparently it's great for content creators

 

[The Psychedelic Socialist]

Yeah I totally get that over 500 FPS is a pointless benchmark, but it still should be better than their previous generation. The benchmarks over 200 are still relevant as 360hz monitors exist. Here’s a better graph then with an average across 14 games

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The CPU is being slated for gaming, not general other use. Apparently it's great for content creators

Yeah that graph makes more sense, but I'd still rather see it at 1440p then 1080p.

...and we could obviously argue for even more time about the relevance of a 360Hz monitor.

 

[Geddes]

with me not doing much gaming at all on my new build for next year, what should i be looking out for so i know what type of cpu is suitable for me , should i be looking at certain benchmarks for stats? cos all i seen is gaming benchmarks, i'll be doing photoshop, having multiple tabs open, maybe i'll be doing a dual monitor next year, YouTube editing that sort of thing, i still don't know wether to go for a 6 core or a 8 core AMD cpu, maybe the X3D would be overkill , if i'm not utilising the full potential of the cpu may aswell save some money on the cpu and gfx card?

 

[N0ddie]

Yeah that graph makes more sense, but I'd still rather see it at 1440p then 1080p.

...and we could obviously argue for even more time about the relevance of a 360Hz monitor.

1080P is a better test for CPU performance though.

 

[Darren S]

Nice to see that my trusty 5800X3D still has some clout.

 

[N0ddie]

Nice to see that my trusty 5800X3D still has some clout.

Mines is 2nd bottom on that list.

 

[Beauvais Motorsport]

This i9 v 7800 comparison video shows there isn't much in it at 4k, sometimes the fps was the same.

 

[Darren S]

This i9 v 7800 comparison video shows there isn't much in it at 4k, sometimes the fps was the same.

I've been neglecting running games in 4K, thinking that they would be proper resource killers.

I guess that all depends upon the title in question. I tried Company of Heroes 2 this week, upscaled to 4K and my PC pissed on it - regardless of the carnage, units and busyness on the screen. Could be purely a placebo effect, but it looked like it played even more smoothly at 4K?

I suppose I should always default to that and drop back to 1440 if/when the workload gets a bit too much.

 

[Beauvais Motorsport]

I've been neglecting running games in 4K, thinking that they would be proper resource killers.

I guess that all depends upon the title in question. I tried Company of Heroes 2 this week, upscaled to 4K and my PC pissed on it - regardless of the carnage, units and busyness on the screen. Could be purely a placebo effect, but it looked like it played even more smoothly at 4K?

I suppose I should always default to that and drop back to 1440 if/when the workload gets a bit too much.

I'm not sure how upscaling works or running a game a lower resolution than the native monitor regarding pixel pitch but Its something I checked when I bought the gigabyte m32cu. Before on my 1080p monitor, you had about 2 pixel worths of 'target' when zooming on someones head, I think now its like 3-1/2 lol. Makes a difference though, more precision and feels smoother.

 

[Wilkeh]

This i9 v 7800 comparison video shows there isn't much in it at 4k, sometimes the fps was the same.

Yeah there won't be as much in it at higher res as that's more GPU intensive then. However, this video is about the previous generation of Intel not the new one, the 14900k is better than the new ones for gaming.

 

[Neil Clio 182]

I bought a Alienware Aurora 7 , I7 8700k , 1080ti, M2 SSD, 16gb DDR4 and a Ausus ROG PG278q 165hz 7 years ago now, it was time for an upgrade. I have been hunting deals since september.
Just upgraded to a 7800x3d, 4080 super with 32gb 6000mhz cl30, MSI X670E Gaming Plus WiFi Samsung 990Pro, pre built by a company called Auspec, arrives tomorrow! I also upgraded the monitor with a Alienware 27 QD-OLED Gaming Monitor - AW2725DF which arrived 35h after clicking it on Dells website at 11pm.
Monitor and PC was over £600 more 7 years ago!
Can't wait to get gaming!

 

[Neil Clio 182]

Getting 290 FPS on Cod in 1440p after a bit of tweeking
I need to sort out a better DP cable as this one is 4.5m long. (too long)

 

[mace¬]

Daughter wants a PC for Christmas and I don't want to blow the bank as it might be a phase and she gets bored.

I've decided the best performance for money option is a refurbished one. I'm guessing she'll be playing a bit of Minecraft and Roblox mostly.

Any recommendations of decent reputable websites to get one?

Also for future proofing what would you recommend minimum spec?

Something like this

Stone Raider Gaming PC - Intel Core i5 8th Gen - 16GB RAM - 1TB SSD - Nvidia RTX 4060

The Stone Raider Gaming PC has an Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz processor and is pre-configured with 16GB of memory and a 1TB Solid State Drive with a dedicated Nvidia RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card. The components in this gaming PC have been carefu

www.stonerefurb.co.uk

 

[mace¬]

Or am I over thinking this and for an 8 year old running at 1080p this would be sufficent for a few years

Stone Titan Gaming PC - Intel Core i5-8400 - 16GB RAM - 1TB SSD - AMD Radeon RX 6600

This Titan Gaming PC has an Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz processor and is pre-configured with 16GB of memory and a 1TB Solid State Drive with a dedicated AMD Radeon RX 6600 Graphics Card. The components in this gaming PC have been carefully refurbish

www.stonerefurb.co.uk

 

[The Psychedelic Socialist]

Bought a 4070 Super last month to replace my old 1070 Ti (which I'll be selling when I get around to taking pictures).

Decided to see what it can do by downloading and spending all my spare time playing Balatro.

Mug.

 

[Cookie]

Anyone have a 3080 Ti (or fasterer) they need to find a new home for? Sick of my 6900 XT with constant driver issues so looking to go back to Team Green

 

[Neil Clio 182]

Oled Monitors are where its at! had my aw2725df couple of weeks now upgraded from a high end IPS and every time I switch it on It's Wow!
£509 from dell with quidoco cashback. With I could afford a G9 for my Rig now.

 

[Cookie]

Anyone have a 3080 Ti (or fasterer) they need to find a new home for? Sick of my 6900 XT with constant driver issues so looking to go back to Team Green

WELP. This escalated. Just ordered a 4080 Super and a new 4K monitor (Samsung Odyssey Neo G8)

😂

 

[Wilkeh]

WELP. This escalated. Just ordered a 4080 Super and a new 4K monitor (Samsung Odyssey Neo G8)

😂

Not worth holding out for the 50x series annoucement soon and getting a better deal on the 40x series?

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Anyone have a 3080 Ti (or fasterer) they need to find a new home for? Sick of my 6900 XT with constant driver issues so looking to go back to Team Green

What specific issues are you having? Never had any issues with mine. Had issues with Nvidia drivers and CoD though.

 

[Cookie]

Not worth holding out for the 50x series annoucement soon and getting a better deal on the 40x series?

Nope. I'm getting CTD constantly in games at this point unless I strip the driver back which has killed performance somewhat. Makes no odds which game, what settings I use. I've used maybe 10 drivers to try and find one that works. I think it was potentially a Windows update that's clashing with the driver but I get zero error logs on anything, it just turns the machine off 😂

Stress testing it/benchmarking its completely stable

Sitting and waiting for the shiny new thing that might end up being unavailable for 3 months isn't really something I want to do either!

 

[R3k1355]

Not worth holding out for the 50x series annoucement soon and getting a better deal on the 40x series?

If it's anything like last time they won't bother discounting the older cards on release, either buy an old card, buy a new card or f**k off.

The NVidia way.

 

[ChrisR]

but I get zero error logs on anything, it just turns the machine off 😂

Shoud’ve tried sticking a OneAgent on there and see if it picked any issues up

 

[Daz...]

Nope. I'm getting CTD constantly in games at this point unless I strip the driver back which has killed performance somewhat. Makes no odds which game, what settings I use. I've used maybe 10 drivers to try and find one that works. I think it was potentially a Windows update that's clashing with the driver but I get zero error logs on anything, it just turns the machine off 😂

Stress testing it/benchmarking its completely stable

Sitting and waiting for the shiny new thing that might end up being unavailable for 3 months isn't really something I want to do either!

That sounds like it’s either a dying GPU or PSU.

The only issues I’ve had with my 7900XTX turned out to be it being a bit power hungry and pulling more than the PSU could handle.

I’ve undervolted and dropped the frequency on it and it uses half the power but with no noticeable difference to performance.

Also, did you swap from Nvidia to AMD and just use DDU to wipe it? Sounds simple but a fresh install of windows will fix many stupid little problems you don’t realise are there.

 

[Greeny.]

Oled Monitors are where its at! had my aw2725df couple of weeks now upgraded from a high end IPS and every time I switch it on It's Wow!
£509 from dell with quidoco cashback. With I could afford a G9 for my Rig now.

I’ve not bothered looking into them for PC’s due to being very happy with my LG 34" 34GN850P-B 160Hz 1ms “Nano” IPS from 2020, that’s the problem for me, unless this dies I don’t wanna replace it as it cost 1k.

How’s the refresh rate and FPS side of Oled PC monitors atm?

 

[Ph1 Tom]

I’ve not bothered looking into them for PC’s due to being very happy with my LG 34" 34GN850P-B 160Hz 1ms “Nano” IPS from 2020, that’s the problem for me, unless this dies I don’t wanna replace it as it cost 1k.

How’s the refresh rate and FPS side of Oled PC monitors atm?

I've got a 4k 144hz oled TV and a LG 4k 160hz IPS monitor. I couldn't tell you if there's a difference or not, unlike going from 1440p to 4k. Like you, I bought it in 2020 and I have no need to change it.

 

[Cookie]

That sounds like it’s either a dying GPU or PSU.

The only issues I’ve had with my 7900XTX turned out to be it being a bit power hungry and pulling more than the PSU could handle.

I’ve undervolted and dropped the frequency on it and it uses half the power but with no noticeable difference to performance.

Also, did you swap from Nvidia to AMD and just use DDU to wipe it? Sounds simple but a fresh install of windows will fix many stupid little problems you don’t realise are there.

Could be, but the system is rock solid getting hammered with OCCT/Furmark/3DMark etc. It's been fine until relatively recently, I reckon around the time Blackops 6 was released it started getting a bit flaky with COD, so I put the driver version back and COD was fine (ish, it'd CTD once a night rather than 5)

Not an issue with having Nvidia drivers anywhere on this system, it was a fresh W11 build with all of the components in this machine

I think perhaps saying constant issues was wrong.. sometimes it'll black screen the whole box and shut down after 10 minutes, sometimes after 30. Sometimes (COD, for example) is fine for hours. I've been monitoring temps for everything and its not been exceeding thermal limits at all. 12V rails seem steady, nothing spiking that I could tell. Just likes to die.

Guess we'll see if the new card shows similar symptoms 😂

 

[Neil Clio 182]

I’ve not bothered looking into them for PC’s due to being very happy with my LG 34" 34GN850P-B 160Hz 1ms “Nano” IPS from 2020, that’s the problem for me, unless this dies I don’t wanna replace it as it cost 1k.

How’s the refresh rate and FPS side of Oled PC monitors atm?

360hz on my 1440p Alienware and minimal input lag.

 

[Neil Clio 182]

The Nvidia over clock app is ok, better results with MSI afterburner though. My max score on my 1080ti was just over 6k on Furmark 3d. New Pc is doing a little better! Need more to max out the monitor lol.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Could be, but the system is rock solid getting hammered with OCCT/Furmark/3DMark etc. It's been fine until relatively recently, I reckon around the time Blackops 6 was released it started getting a bit flaky with COD, so I put the driver version back and COD was fine (ish, it'd CTD once a night rather than 5)

Not an issue with having Nvidia drivers anywhere on this system, it was a fresh W11 build with all of the components in this machine

I think perhaps saying constant issues was wrong.. sometimes it'll black screen the whole box and shut down after 10 minutes, sometimes after 30. Sometimes (COD, for example) is fine for hours. I've been monitoring temps for everything and its not been exceeding thermal limits at all. 12V rails seem steady, nothing spiking that I could tell. Just likes to die.

Guess we'll see if the new card shows similar symptoms 😂

Mine did similar a while back. Turned out to be a dodgy hard drive.

 

[Cookie]

Mine did similar a while back. Turned out to be a dodgy hard drive.

Not had an actual hard drive in years 😂

Both nvme drives are fine

Anyway, I waited in all day for Amazon and they just arrived, right as I need to put the kids to bed and then take the dog for a walk 😢

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Not had an actual hard drive in years 😂

Both nvme drives are fine

Anyway, I waited in all day for Amazon and they just arrived, right as I need to put the kids to bed and then take the dog for a walk 😢

Mine was/is M.2 nvme

 

[mace¬]

@Ph1 Tom has a dodgy hard drive pass it on.

 

[Cookie]

In the few hours I've had to play this evening (and only really in a game that's constantly been crashing - Flight Sim 2024) it seems all good. So much smoother too 😂

 

[Beauvais Motorsport]

@SharkyUK @Robbie Corbett
I have started my journey into c# for a solidworks add in, fortunately there is a solidworks template for visual studio that helps to start things off. Ive been using chatgpt which honestly has been a requirement for me to do this, I just dont have the time to learn everything without it!

I started by trying to make my own cad application that would be only for generating rack gears, I soon realised even with chatgpt this was more hassle than its worth, I managed to make this and there are weird bugs like when you resize the application the visual disappears until you press generate again or toggle the shaded edges, chatgpt couldnt figure it out after hours so I'm moving to keep things within solidworks.

Also export to step wouldnt work no matter what and some other small bugs persist. Would of taken me 100x longer if I didnt use chatgpt though!

It was better at helping to write the code for this application though, you have to be very specific sometimes.

 

[SharkyUK]

@SharkyUK @Robbie Corbett
I have started my journey into c# for a solidworks add in, fortunately there is a solidworks template for visual studio that helps to start things off. Ive been using chatgpt which honestly has been a requirement for me to do this, I just dont have the time to learn everything without it!

I started by trying to make my own cad application that would be only for generating rack gears, I soon realised even with chatgpt this was more hassle than its worth, I managed to make this and there are weird bugs like when you resize the application the visual disappears until you press generate again or toggle the shaded edges, chatgpt couldnt figure it out after hours so I'm moving to keep things within solidworks.

Also export to step wouldnt work no matter what and some other small bugs persist. Would of taken me 100x longer if I didnt use chatgpt though!

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It was better at helping to write the code for this application though, you have to be very specific sometimes.

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Nice! Was the application stand-alone, or does it rely on Solidworks being installed in order to run?

 

[Beauvais Motorsport]

Nice! Was the application stand-alone, or does it rely on Solidworks being installed in order to run?

It was a stand alone (console app) using Qt framework and open cascade which is open source cad. The graph app was a sw stand alone though.