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The Psychedelic Socialist's Focus ST



The Psychedelic Socialist

ClioSport Club Member
I have to say having a lightweight car makes such a difference to tyre and brake wear. I was wincing thinking of the cost of your M4 flying round @Nickw88

@The Psychedelic Socialist what pressure did you run on track?
Started at 2.1 cold then let them get up to 2.6/2.7 max.

Normally it's 2.4 cold so I reckon I might have damaged them going too hard before they'd increased in pressure much.
 

Yarp

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 182, E46 M3
All I can say is the Conti sport contacts I had once wore quicker than my patience with the BMW.

I went through a set of front sport contact 7s in no time on the 5 series and M3. Turns out they like a bit more pressure or they roll onto the side walls a bit and wear mega fast on the outer edges. This set seem to be doing much better at 35psi compared to 32. I’ll have a better picture in another few thousand miles
 

Trainerbrow

ClioSport Club Member
  Mk1 Audi TT 3.2 V6
I went through a set of front sport contact 7s in no time on the 5 series and M3. Turns out they like a bit more pressure or they roll onto the side walls a bit and wear mega fast on the outer edges. This set seem to be doing much better at 35psi compared to 32. I’ll have a better picture in another few thousand miles

That's what chewed mine.
 

Nickw88

ClioSport Club Member
  BMW F82 M4
I have to say having a lightweight car makes such a difference to tyre and brake wear. I was wincing thinking of the cost of your M4 flying round @Nickw88

@The Psychedelic Socialist what pressure did you run on track?
🤣

Tyres actually did pretty well! Now they’ve cleaned up they look fine. I still need to find my tool to measure them but doesn’t look they’ve used much at all surprisingly.

@The Psychedelic Socialist I’d definitely recommend the PS4S, i can now say I’ve tried them in the rain, snow, ice and on track. Not so great in the snow 😂

I’d like to think you’d get better distance than me and they’ll be cheaper too; around 10k rear/15k fronts and ~£1300 with alignment (265/30/20 / 285/30/20)
 

Brigsy

ClioSport Club Member
  T.Turbo
Handling wise, prob fuckall in it for slow day to day use on the top good brands michelin, conti etc.

Wear rate is something else though. I ran goodyears on the kangoo and the wear rate was ridiculous for road tyre/road use. The cup2's i replaced them with are wearing loads better in comparison 😅

I know a few people who ran contis and have went back to michelin as last longer.
 

davo172

ClioSport Club Member
  TCR'd 172
There are PS S 5 now which replace the PS4S (dunno why they messed around with the naming of them 😖) to also consider.


Got these on 2 cars now after having
P ZEROS PS4 AND PS4'S .

PS5'S best of the lot imo get some you won't regret it.

Great looking tyres too.

Camskill usually aways cheapest just drop a drink to the local carefull tyre fitter.
 

Brigsy

ClioSport Club Member
  T.Turbo
Ps4s decent enough in winter, dont hook up as well on front in low temps but wont kill you. Same as any summer performace tyre in winter.

Crossclimates are a good summer/winter tyre but not performance.
 

Nickw88

ClioSport Club Member
  BMW F82 M4
Just a random one to throw in the hoop, but what about a set of Falken Azenis FK510 ?

I had a couple sets on my 430D, I actually really liked them and they held up well. Honestly can’t say I noticed much of difference when I had PS4S’s on straight afterwards. Got good mileage out of themand they were cheap!
 

ForceIndia

ClioSport Club Member
  Gentlemans spec 200
Just a random one to throw in the hoop, but what about a set of Falken Azenis FK510 ?

I had a couple sets on my 430D, I actually really liked them and they held up well. Honestly can’t say I noticed much of difference when I had PS4S’s on straight afterwards. Got good mileage out of themand they were cheap!
I use the fk520. They tend to do well in the German tests, which seem a bit more objective? And I spend 80% of the time on the motorway.
 

MLB

ClioSport Club Member
Just a random one to throw in the hoop, but what about a set of Falken Azenis FK510 ?

I had a couple sets on my 430D, I actually really liked them and they held up well. Honestly can’t say I noticed much of difference when I had PS4S’s on straight afterwards. Got good mileage out of themand they were cheap!

Not a direct comparison, but have them on my wife's Civic Type S (FWD, 140 bhp). Really like them for day to day driving. Don't think they'd hold up on a (mild) trackday though.
 

Flat Eric

Sing Hosanna!!
ClioSport Club Member
  F31 35d, Berlingo Na
I didn't know they do PS5 S now or S5 however you want to call them until seeing this thread.

Just looked and they don't do them for the rears on my 3 series unfortunately.

I had PS4S on mine before they were killed off and have got PS5 on currently. I rate them though!
 

Nickw88

ClioSport Club Member
  BMW F82 M4
Not a direct comparison, but have them on my wife's Civic Type S (FWD, 140 bhp). Really like them for day to day driving. Don't think they'd hold up on a (mild) trackday though.
I would say this is better comparison than on my old 430D, although if they handled the weight and torque of that well enough I suspect the ST would be fine day to day also. You’re probably right about track, but then again if they’re cheap enough to replace and don’t ruin the fun too much that’s still not a bad place to be.
 
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MLB

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I was indeed thinking weight and power are probably more comparable with the 430d.

Another thing to consider, how many miles a year do you do @The Psychedelic Socialist? I don't do a lot of miles a year and usually replace tyres on age/cracking rather than actual wear. One of the reasons I'd probably go for the Continentals over the PS4S.
 

The Psychedelic Socialist

ClioSport Club Member
I was indeed thinking weight and power are probably more comparable with the 430d.

Another thing to consider, how many miles a year do you do @The Psychedelic Socialist? I don't do a lot of miles a year and usually replace tyres on age/cracking rather than actual wear. One of the reasons I'd probably go for the Continentals over the PS4S.
Not many to be honest. Probably <4,000/yr with most likely just the one track-day at CSF. Definitely don't need to be chasing the last couple of percent of performance but it'd be nice to have something that can handle a couple of track-days, last a couple of years and not fall off a cliff performance-wise when it gets cold / wet (at least compared to other tyres).
 


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