timing belt/ cam belt snapped :/

[frankiebateman]

Hi im new to the clio scence. Ive had a clio for about 4 - 5 months now and had nothing but problems but easy fixable ones like wishbone, bearings ecs anyhows. Recently i was driving down the m55 and had to come to a stop because the car wouldnt drive it just totaly cut out. i know what it is because ive dealt with this on other cars but never fixed a cam belt. So im just asking wether it maybe just cheaper to get a second hand engine or just to do it myself with a friend ? it doesnt seem like the valves are bent but may be taking the head of to check anyway, but then that would lead to havingg to get a skimmed would it just be possible to fit the timing belt then reset the timing and see if it fires up ? and if it doesnt just to get a second hand engine? what would be cheaper

 

[Fred@BTM]

if the belt has gone the valves WILL be bent

 

[Cro]

if the belt has gone the valves WILL be bent

This^^ much much cheaper to source a second engine really. Theres a head with fresh valves for sale in the for sale section

 

[frankiebateman]

Thanks so a second engine would be alot cheaper then ? i cant get onto the parts for sale bit how do i acess it ?

 

[Sanders]

You need to be a member mate, £12 worth every penny

 

[frankiebateman]

Something i cant real scrape together at the moment though lol damnnn

 

[Stu_350z]

If you cant afford the 12 quid how can you afford to fix the car??

surely the 12 quid may end up savin you more in the long run

 

[Jon.G]

If you cant afford the 12 quid how can you afford to fix the car??

surely the 12 quid may end up savin you more in the long run

LOL. this^

£12 is a bargin for what you get.

 

[Sanders]

If you cant afford the 12 quid how can you afford to fix the car??

surely the 12 quid may end up savin you more in the long run

Couldn't have put it better, you'll make the £12 back in savings you make from the parts for sale

 

[sideways danny]

Thanks so a second engine would be alot cheaper then ? i cant get onto the parts for sale bit how do i acess it ?

I dont really go along with that arguement most of the time. it's a lot more labour to get another engine in, and you're left with a 2nd hand engine. If you rebuild your current head, you have a rebuilt top end that if done right will last longer and run better. On any engine with unknown history, you will have to fit a new cambelt kit, water pump, aux belt kit, spark plugs etc etc..... Nothing out of the ordinary, but often forgotten when costing up the options

 

[frankiebateman]

true but that £12 could go towards the deadly cost of fixing the car haha

 

[realnumber 1]

true but that £12 could go towards the deadly cost of fixing the car haha

Becoming a member and using the info available is going towards the cost is it not? Are you just expecting people to help you all the way and give nothing in return?

 

[Fred@BTM]

I dont really go along with that arguement most of the time. it's a lot more labour to get another engine in, and you're left with a 2nd hand engine. If you rebuild your current head, you have a rebuilt top end that if done right will last longer and run better. On any engine with unknown history, you will have to fit a new cambelt kit, water pump, aux belt kit, spark plugs etc etc..... Nothing out of the ordinary, but often forgotten when costing up the options

last head rebuild i did was £1300 LOL!

second hand engine fitted with all new bits works out about the same TBH

 

[realnumber 1]

Is the car even a 2l. 1.2-1.4's would be even cheaper would it not?

 

[jenic]

Depending how old the car is it might be as cheap/cheaper just to buy another and either sell this as spares/repairs or break it. Unless you can do the labour yourself.

 

[Silent_Scone]

<--- or if your engines been through hell and back and you'd rather just see the back of it and replace it. lol

 

[MartinR]

Is the car even a 2l. 1.2-1.4's would be even cheaper would it not?

not in a sense that it will most likely still be 16 valves to replace and a fair few other parts.

correct me if iam wrong but wether its a 2l, 1.6 ,1.4 ,1.2 if it has 16 valves i would say your looking around the same price give or take a couple of quid.

 

[realnumber 1]

Yeah but I was thinking more along the lines of a 2nd hand 1.2 engine been cheaper to buy.

 

[Bassplayer]

All a bit pointless if he can't raise the £12 for membership :S Should be able to afford it now seeing as he won't be putting petrol in the car! £12 = approx 9.3 lt

 

[MartinR]

true but say you get a 1.2 or 1.4 engine for say £500-£700 if there is no solid proof of the timing belt ,water pump, service etc..being done recently and the labour cost of fitting it.

it wil end up costing a shed load more than a rebuild personally i would have a rebuild!

 

[Christopher]

If this happened to me, and it was the same price, I'd have my existing engine rebuilt.

Better the F4R you know.

 

[Mister_G]

If this happened to me, and it was the same price, I'd have my existing engine rebuilt.

Better the F4R you know.

+1

After speaking to Fred it would probably cost about the same to put a new engine in anyway... Probably even more expensive!