Toss new Clio ad

[massiveCoRbyn]

Someone just showed me this.

Firstly, why have they given the new Clio an ugly face? Secondly, isn't it a bit sad that the ad contains all the greatest hits from the Clio range, and no one within Renault thought, "Hmmmm, this shows all the class-leading cars we've produced over the years, isn't that rather contradictory to this bland hybrid thing we're selling now?"

I actually quite like the current Clio (pre-facelift anyway), but showing a load of iconic versions of the old cars doesn't exactly mark it out as being a genuinely leading product. It just shows that they've given up trying.

 

[Daz...]

Much like the generic looking electric Megane. Meh.

 

[McGherkin]

I swear that’s an RS.16. You didn’t even release that one!

 

[botfch]

Much like the generic looking electric Megane. Meh.

Saw one on the road the other day properly bland car, I’d forgot they’d turned it into a crossover.

It’s like Renault have decided to do a Peugeot and make s**t cars for the next 20 years.

 

[Yosemite Sam]

Cars for enthusiasts are finished.

We have cars for the masses (suv, electric guff and small engined crossovers) and we have cars for the show offs with money.

But cars for enthusiasts are no longer being produced so we’ll all be chasing old hot hatches for the rest of our lives.

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

Cars for enthusiasts are finished.

We have cars for the masses (suv, electric guff and small engined crossovers) and we have cars for the show offs with money.

But cars for enthusiasts are no longer being produced so we’ll all be chasing old hot hatches for the rest of our lives.

This is the sad truth.

As I understand it, French legislation has all but killed off the hot hatch there, and the increasing move towards EVs will change the market massively. UK buying trends are towards wanky crossovers and away from hatchbacks.

The Hyundai i20 N and MINI Cooper S are the only hot hatches left in that segment now, apart from the GR Yaris, which is a pretty different proposition.

 

[Martin_172]

I get everything's being pushed towards EV/hybrid but Renault don't offer a single petrol powered car anymore? Surely the demand isn't that low already?!!

 

[Matt W]

I get everything's being pushed towards EV/hybrid but Renault don't offer a single petrol powered car anymore? Surely the demand isn't that low already?!!

They are doing all their petrol cars via dacia I think

 

[Yosemite Sam]

Take a look at this. Who in their right mi d would CHOOSE to spend time inside this???

What a miserable soulless existence.

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

They are doing all their petrol cars via dacia I think

We need Dacia Sport!

 

[botfch]

I get everything's being pushed towards EV/hybrid but Renault don't offer a single petrol powered car anymore? Surely the demand isn't that low already?!!

Part of the agreement with the French govt for the loans during Covid was they would stop producing ice cars.

 

[Martin_172]

Take a look at this. Who in their right mi d would CHOOSE to spend time inside this???

What a miserable soulless existence.

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that is everything I hate about the modern world.

 

[Scrooge]

Take a look at this. Who in their right mi d would CHOOSE to spend time inside this???

What a miserable soulless existence.

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Usually the most boring, vanilla, insufferable flannels from what I can tell.

 

[Mr Underhill]

Take a look at this. Who in their right mi d would CHOOSE to spend time inside this???

What a miserable soulless existence.

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That Green window squidgy (or whatever it is) is playing on my OCD 🫣

 

[charltjr]

The new Clio looks the absolute b****cks in Alpine spec with the blue paint IMO.

It is pretty much the same as the previous generation, just has a new face and new trim.

The pictures really don’t do it justice. It is quite colour sensitive though, didn’t look good in red or orange.

 

[R3k1355]

Cars for enthusiasts are finished.

We have cars for the masses (suv, electric guff and small engined crossovers) and we have cars for the show offs with money.

But cars for enthusiasts are no longer being produced so we’ll all be chasing old hot hatches for the rest of our lives.

Advert says it all tho.

They're not using a 30 year old Campus or a clean looking 1.2 8V to sell this new car, they're showing off all the Renault Sport stuff, because that brought people in through the doors. Clearly they know this as 20, 30 years later these cars are still good enough to promote new models.

Now what are they going to do? Now what will bring punters in through the door?

 

[Horatio McAllister]

 

[.Joe]

I think this runs true

 

[ldubl]

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Lol! Do you like it? Put an order in?

 

[Horatio McAllister]

Lol! Do you like it? Put an order in?

Apologies, it missed my reply to the scotch egg heads post about Teslas. I haven’t ordered a French electric car.

For me French cars are fabulous driving apparatus. They look well, drive superbly. However they’ve never been famed for their use of electrics. So buying a French car powered electrically sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

The new Clio looks the absolute b****cks in Alpine spec with the blue paint IMO.

It is pretty much the same as the previous generation, just has a new face and new trim.

The pictures really don’t do it justice. It is quite colour sensitive though, didn’t look good in red or orange.

It's the new face that's the problem in my view. The little silver/chrome bits all over the grill, the massive chunk of grey plastic etc, it's a bit of a mess. Seems to be a trend in car design currently - just throw every crease, line, edge and piece of bling possible at everything.

Advert says it all tho.

They're not using a 30 year old Campus or a clean looking 1.2 8V to sell this new car, they're showing off all the Renault Sport stuff, because that brought people in through the doors. Clearly they know this as 20, 30 years later these cars are still good enough to promote new models.

Now what are they going to do? Now what will bring punters in through the door?

They just use words like "digital", "lifestyle", "urban" and "agile" to appeal to the vacuous mongs who only want to connect their phone so they don't miss anything on TikTok. Fewer and fewer people care about driving now. They just need their social media dopamine hit.

 

[charltjr]

"In my day, this were all fields"

Honestly, I love you guys but it's like a bunch of grumpy old farts in here, things were so much better in my day.... and I'm nearly 50 so I can say that

 

[Darren S]

Take a look at this. Who in their right mi d would CHOOSE to spend time inside this???

What a miserable soulless existence.

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"Yeah but jealous coz it wud beat yr car in a race"....... or some other form of utter drivel.

We're in strange times - a state of flux so to speak between not fully moving on from the previous generations (thank you Hyundai and Mini as per @massiveCoRbyn ) - and being surrounded by utter tat like the above.

The majority of car drivers simply do not care however - and that's where we'll always lose out. I guess for years - we took the situation for granted. Whether or not a manufacturer's hot-hatch range was exactly that, or merely mild and tepid - there were the options out there, should we wish to buy them.

That philosophy brought out some proper quirky cars. Even on release, they were low in numbers made and hardly set the world alight - but they were different. Those days have long gone now and it's thoroughly depressing to think of the potential alternative.

Just this weekend, I've dropped my 182 off to have a bit more bodywork done. For the majority of 2.4 households, spending any sort of decent money on a 19-year-old hatchback would be seen as insane. Yet as the soulless EV juggernaut continues to plough ahead, the more determined I am to keep something different on the road.

I don't want to give up on something that I genuinely enjoy driving and replace it with a four-wheel fun sponge, simply because I'm artificially forced to do so.

 

[Mr Underhill]

Electric cars will undergo a transformative evolution, much like petrol cars have. The IONIQ 5 N electric looks like a promising start.

Mass adoption of EVs is still a distant prospect, so still plenty of time to enjoy traditional hatchbacks if that's your preference.

Personally, I enjoy driving hybrids/EVs for their comfort, efficiency, and economic benefits when commuting from A to B.

On saying that, you can't beat a good blast out in an old-school hot hatchback or attending a track day, with the unmistakable scent of petrol – much to the annoyance of the missus.

Best of both worlds at the moment so I fully intend to enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[The Psychedelic Socialist]

On saying that, you can't beat a good blast out in an old-school hot hatchback or attending a track day, with the unmistakable scent of petrol – much to the annoyance of the missus.

True, but opportunities for that seem to be fewer and farther between, at least in my experience. I've been out in the car a fair bit over the last week and I don't think I've had a single opportunity to put my foot to the floor. All of it was either spent in a 30mph zone (fair enough, built up areas), or in NSL but with steady 40-50mph traffic.

For me it's worth it for those 10% of journeys where you get a bit of space, but I don't think you can begrudge people (and manufacturers) from producing a 'white goods' product to satisfy the remaining 90% of boring driving.

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

"In my day, this were all fields"

Honestly, I love you guys but it's like a bunch of grumpy old farts in here, things were so much better in my day.... and I'm nearly 50 so I can say that

Oh there's no doubt a bit of that. I'm nearly 40 so I reserve the right to start shouting at the clouds

That said, things are a bit frightening in some respects. My two step kids (16 and 18) are total addicts when it comes to stimulation. They will play a video game while listening to music and messing about with their phone/iPad. And you only have to look at TikTok to see how mindless we're becoming. People who do nothing but post videos of their clothes or food are garnering a huge following. It's scary how tech has developed and how it is impacting us.

 

[youngarthur]

At 83 years old, I run an R26 360bhp. Thurso to Spa, around 1200 miles. Electric car, Far longer journey times, a lot heavier car, no use for me for the track. Where is the progress?.

 

[Darren S]

At 83 years old, I run an R26 360bhp. Thurso to Spa, around 1200 miles. Electric car, Far longer journey times, a lot heavier car, no use for me for the track. Where is the progress?.

I'm 35 years your junior - but you're already setting my aspiration goals.

 

[Martin_172]

Tell you something, the interior on the 5 looks brilliant, when you first jump in it its a massive step up in quality..... My wife done 140k in a Clio 4 and the interior used to clean up like new, I've done loads of miles in mk2 and mk3 Clio's with no issues... She's done 40k in a MK5 and its humped! scratches on the dash, the cluster has some how cracked, the clips holding the parcel shelf string onto the boot have snapped, the steering wheel has wore terribly (yes even worse than a normal Clio).

The big stereo screen has been replaced due to rebooting, the auto full beam is not fit for purpose, had to turn it off as people kept flashing you when your driving, in the wet if the road your driving on has started to sink where everyone drives and water is collecting there (i.e. most Scottish roads) it detects that as you crossing a white line and pulls the wheel out your hand and forces you at the kerb, Auto lights no longer work so the headlights are on constantly. its had 3x parking sensors replaced, randomly when your driving down the road it starts beeping loudly at you and telling you to brake because your going to crash.

owned from new, it drives lovely, but its an actual piece of s**t. only decent bit is the old 1.5 DCI which of course is no longer available.

With the 6 speed box however, me and @aldo_87 took it on a 400 mile round trip to pickup a car and at 70mph cruise control it averaged 88.5MPG which is brilliant. (however its only got a 35 litre fuel tank as its got a f**king massive adblue tank which is shite on a road trip!)

 

[Beauvais Motorsport]

I wanted to sell my 182, it’s been crossing my mind for a while. It’s basically a track car with an interior in it, hard as nails suspension, it’s uncomfortable but unbelievable fun, it could do with a big clean and some new shiny bits as it’s looking a bit sorry for it self.

I just sat in it the day snd immediately had excitement, never have that with cars. Sometimes ago driving id be getting adrenaline going 30-40 because it’s so strung with how its setup. As if it’s a bucking bull and all I have to do is give the nod..

I’ve thought about it and I’m not selling, f**k that…

 

[ixell]

Someone just showed me this.

Firstly, why have they given the new Clio an ugly face? Secondly, isn't it a bit sad that the ad contains all the greatest hits from the Clio range, and no one within Renault thought, "Hmmmm, this shows all the class-leading cars we've produced over the years, isn't that rather contradictory to this bland hybrid thing we're selling now?"

I actually quite like the current Clio (pre-facelift anyway), but showing a load of iconic versions of the old cars doesn't exactly mark it out as being a genuinely leading product. It just shows that they've given up trying.

I still can’t believe that Renault are spending time and money to produce this style.
This Clio looks cheap and Renault have lost their way

 

[timmy c]

Cars for enthusiasts are finished.

We have cars for the masses (suv, electric guff and small engined crossovers) and we have cars for the show offs with money.

But cars for enthusiasts are no longer being produced so we’ll all be chasing old hot hatches for the rest of our lives.

wholeheartedly agree!!

 

[timmy c]

Agree with much of what has been said above, so here is a proper Renault Clio advert!