Toyo - T1-S vs T1-R - Discuss...

[White16valver]

As above really - budget is tight :dapprove: and F1s are almost £80 a corner...

Yoz has offered me a good price on F1s in 195/50/15 but I really want to stay original size (185/55/15) as I find that it tramlines more when my current F1s get the tread worn down and they put slightly more rubber on the road.

I've had the Toyo T1-S before and they were, er, s**t to be honest.

Didn't bite on turn in, didn't grip in the wet, had to drive round their downsides rather than just driving....

Are the T1-R any better? Sharper turn in? Don't roll onto the sidewalls? Better in the wet?

Comments from anyone who's had both are very much welcome.

Thank yooooooou

 

[iPap]

I've had both, nothing special either way.

 

[NOT! gary l]

My experience of the T1-r is that they too are crap, i have them on just now as i was told on here they are good.

I had Yokohama S306 before them and although a budget Yoko tyre they gripped better in all conditions even after doing 20k miles than the Toyo tyres do when new.

I find the Toyo appaling in the wet, now im not saying other people lied when they said they were good, obviously different car set-ups work different, in the dry the grip is reasonable, you certainly wont be finding a ditch at speed but i feel that when cornering that point of feeling it wanting to kick out comes at a slower speed than the previous tyre.

I've got a few big roundabouts round here than i like to zoom round when it's quiet on my way to work but dont feel comfortable in the T1-R

So to summise, for the price and most driving conditions it is a fair tyre considering what you pay for but in the wet its shocking, i got mine in January and i think i can count on one hand the number of dry days we've had in scotland.

Maybe next time i'l base my choice purely on wet handling.

 

[Peperami]

I really like the t1r's

Paul, are you able to fit 205/50's without it rubbing? Pm me if so.

 

[Ads_172]

I'm a fan of the R's as well. The only real change to the S is an added groove around the edge of tyre wall.

 

[White16valver]

hmmm

A mixed review - as always! lol

Thanks for all the replies

Dan - I don't think 205s would fit - willytracked = not much room between tyre and front arch... lol


I think I may have to just shell out for the F1s then - I know they're good so should stick with what I know I guess. They usually last me a decently long time anyway so I can't really complain.

I can use the T1-S I've got in the garage for trackdays - crap turn in won't help my cause much, but will mean I'm not wrecking F1s lol

I have also considered the PE2s as they are now cheaper than the F1s (!) but seeing as summer is the new winter LoL I might as well go for the best wet tyre!

 

[edde]

I don't like either of them types.

 

[Batman]

i have the r's and their way better then the nankang's i had on my previous wheels lol, why not just go get some r888's

 

[Peperami]

You seen the price of r888's mate...

 

[dhampton]

I've had T1-Rs on my 306. They were awesome for standing water but thats about it. Not confidence inspiring and once they started wearing a little, deteriorated rapidly.

Eagles are great, but there are other good tryes too.

Never skimp on tyres though. Buy the absolute best you can afford.

 

[Damski]

T1-rs are soft as toffee. I had a set pumped upto 36psi and still went over half way down on the side wall. They was shocking but they do grip alright. Good for a cheap tyre

 

[Butler205]

I like the T1-S,s but going back to F1's when I get the chance.

Spend the extra, the F1's are slighter better every where then the Toyo's but last longer, so its cheaper in the long run.

 

[Lee-182]

Both are stone flickers, mate a complete mess of of my last car.

 

[Rich]

Used to run the S on my 309 and 205 GTis, Fine in the dry or in proper standing water, crap on wet or damp roads. Drive a friends 172 which is running the R's - fine in the dry, not impressed in the rain or damp with them, seem as bad as the S. Would go for the F1's TBH.

 

[JR]

As above, i found the f1s to be the best all round tyre.

 

[Rich]

As above, i found the f1s to be the best all round tyre.

I would not go that far, still prefer Exaltos.

 

[JR]

I think the exaltos last longer , but i still prefer the f1s.

But i think its just down to personal preference when you get to a certain level of tyre.

Budget ones - the majority agree they are s**t.

Middle of the range - Some are good, some are s**t

Upper end - Most are good, just personal preference really.

 

[Fred@BTM]

T1R's on YOZ's "1.2" but if its anything but dry it'll spin the wheels

in the dry they're one of the best road tyres i've used

 

[Peperami]

Trying out a set of paradas this week, will keep you updated...